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    Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Just vent here. I can't fathom it at this point.

    If anyone on the defensive coaching staff is still here next season I'm done.

    And the sad thing is if we put up 42 points on the "vaulted" Jags defense that got away with interference all day (which will get called in NE next week) you know the Pats will put up points and win. No way do the Pats give up 45 points. They will win next week 35-10 and win their 3rd straight Superbowl tying our six titles.

    Hey on the bright side we finally know what having all the B's available in the playoffs is capable of. 42 points! Shame our defense wasted it.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Our draft better be all defensive players

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    That ending was a disaster.

    Why onside kick? when you have two timeouts plus a 2 min warning? Game would be heading to OT right now.

    Why not just take a FG at the end and then attempt the onside kick?

    IDK wtf Tomlin was thinking.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    That ending was a disaster.

    Why onside kick? when you have two timeouts plus a 2 min warning? Game would be heading to OT right now.

    Why not just take a FG at the end and then attempt the onside kick?

    IDK wtf Tomlin was thinking.
    I'm with Tomlin the WHOLE WAY on that onside kick. Defense was horrible towards the end. Couldn't trust them to stop a Pee Wee team. So you try to put the ball in the hands of the players you trust.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    I'm with Tomlin the WHOLE WAY on that onside kick. Defense was horrible towards the end. Couldn't trust them to stop a Pee Wee team. So you try to put the ball in the hands of the players you trust.
    Players you trust? Boswell and the special teams? No you play the percentage there and tell Boswell to kick it out of the endzone. If you D loses it for you they so be it. Handing them the FG basically ENDED the game.

    The sad thing is the game wasn't even as close as the final score which makes me MORE sick.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    0 sacks by our celebrated pass rush. No pressure all game on Bortles. Players left wide open all game. The defense was absolutely terrible.
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    I get that he didn't trust the Defense, but you know what? An onside kick is one of lowest percentage things in football. They consistently went with low percentage plays today. It almost smacked of arrogance, despite being in the hole by a huge margin. On a couple of plays it paid off -- thank you Mr. Brown. But you can't keep making choices like that over and over again and expect the roulette wheel to somehow pay off. The D stunk on ice, and lost the game. But the coaching was anything but tight.


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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    I stand by the onside kick as well. Trust the defense? The one that couldn't stop a nose bleed? Lol. I had zero faith in our defense to force a stop

    In any case after today's performance I'm sure we would have had no chance against the Patriots, we have no defense without shazier

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    We couldnt get the defense off the field on 3rd down.

    We clearly dont have that sack master. We need him where every he is. Joey Porter type.

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    45 Points... i still can't believe it

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra Tank View Post
    Players you trust? Boswell and the special teams? No you play the percentage there and tell Boswell to kick it out of the endzone. If you D loses it for you they so be it. Handing them the FG basically ENDED the game.

    The sad thing is the game wasn't even as close as the final score which makes me MORE sick.
    And you're wrong about the statistics. Statistically, from 2014-2016, the onside kick worked 14 percent of the time. In the fourth quarter, the Jags had 3 drive. The Steelers stopped them from scoring 0 percent of the time. The correct ​statistical option was the onside kick.


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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Unreal. The fact that 42 points wasn’t enough to beat the Jags. Just wow. Does anyone know how many third downs Bortles converted in the 4th quarter (on the road in the cold in a playoff game)?

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Our draft better be all defensive players
    The problem isn't the players. Everyone has been saying its the players since 2010. The defense was getting old they said. Lebeau was supposed to fix it. He couldn't. Butler was supposed to fix it. He couldn't. This is an almost entirely different defensive team from just 3 seasons ago.

    IT ISN'T THE PLAYERS.....

    IT'S BUTLER AND BUTLER ALONE.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dissolv View Post
    I get that he didn't trust the Defense, but you know what? An onside kick is one of lowest percentage things in football. They consistently went with low percentage plays today. It almost smacked of arrogance, despite being in the hole by a huge margin. On a couple of plays it paid off -- thank you Mr. Brown. But you can't keep making choices like that over and over again and expect the roulette wheel to somehow pay off. The D stunk on ice, and lost the game. But the coaching was anything but tight.


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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Congrats to ALL those that want to focus on beating the Pats. Draft to beat the Pats, build a defense to beat the Pats, need to run plays designed to beat the Pats. Now maybe you understand a little more about football.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    I feel bad for the housekeeping lady. The Steelers shit the bed today, early and often. Now she's stuck cleaning it up.

    As I said before, I'm always happy so long as we make the playoffs and anything else is gravy. So I'm not terribly disappointed.

    See yinz next season!
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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Seeing that last tweet about Ben being 18-19 in 4th and 1 or less situations just pisses me off more. It makes absolutely no sense to not have your 250-260 lb QB sneak right behind your all-pro RG and C in those situations.

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    It really is unbelievable, all those high round draft picks on defense and what do they have to show for it? Young high round picks like Artie Burns, Sean Davis, and Dud "I get pushed away from the play all the time" Dupree sucked this year. Ryan Shazier who was great likely will never play again. Depth at linebacker is non-existent, Sean Davis and Mike Mitchell have got to be the worst pair of safeties playing this postseason and I challenge anyone to find a pair worse. And Kieth Butler, he has no idea what the hell he is doing. Once again his defense got torched, and this time by Blake Bortles. Of course this is the same defense that got torched by the likes of people such as Brett Hundley, Alex Collins, and DeShone Kizer

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    The sad thing is we probably win if Shazier plays.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra Tank View Post
    The sad thing is we probably win if Shazier plays.
    I'm not sure about that. The defense was playing pretty much the same way before Shazier got hurt.
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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    I'm not sure about that. The defense was playing pretty much the same way before Shazier got hurt.


    No they weren't. Not even close.

    This was a disaster today. Their worst performance of the year by a mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    No they weren't. Not even close.

    This was a disaster today. Their worst performance of the year by a mile.
    Sure they were. There have been problems with blown coverages and giving up big plays all year long along with the whole "bend but don't break" mentality. That didn't all just start with Ryan getting injured.
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    We need a solid ILB and a play making safety. Earl Thomas is a FA next season right? Mitchell is the no better than Ty Carter or Lee Flowers

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra Tank View Post
    The sad thing is we probably win if Shazier plays.


    Case in point:
    On Jacksonville’s first TD (fourth-&-goal), Spence launched in the air and hit Fournette, but didn’t wrap him up. Shazier would have stopped him. 7 points.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Shazier or no, the defense didn't make a single red zone stop, that is unacceptable

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Shazier or no, the defense didn't make a single red zone stop, that is unacceptable
    Yep
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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    I was OK with the onside kick call and here's the reasoning.
    If the kick is executed properly the ball should take that big 2nd hop and should be recovered outside of the 45 yard line, maybe even midfield. This kick was mishit and wouldn't have even traveled 10 yards before going out of bounds if it had not hit our player. 1 first down and the jags win, so FG should never have come into play unless it was in the neighborhood of 54 yards.
    If the Jags get to 4th down it shouldn't have been any closer than our 36, maybe longer. I doubt they kick that and probably punt. Giving us close to 2 minutes to score, which we did anyway. It really shouldn't have mattered if the jags had the ball at their 25 or midfield. Hold 3 and out get the ball and go score, which we had time to do.
    The fact that our kicker seems so inept at onside kicks is concerning. He's a kicker. That's part of his job as a specialist. That should be part of his practice situation, but looks like it is not. Remember that embarrassing reverse wrong footed attempt.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    I'm sure the general media will spout out something this week and through the offseason about AB and Bell not being great because they have not been able to win a Super Bowl, but seriously, if you look at the play of those two in the past two post-seasons they have been unbelievable. They are doing everything possible and then some to bring #7 to Pittsburgh............unfortunately the defense is not doing enough.

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelerchad View Post
    I was OK with the onside kick call and here's the reasoning.
    If the kick is executed properly the ball should take that big 2nd hop and should be recovered outside of the 45 yard line, maybe even midfield. This kick was mishit and wouldn't have even traveled 10 yards before going out of bounds if it had not hit our player. 1 first down and the jags win, so FG should never have come into play unless it was in the neighborhood of 54 yards.
    If the Jags get to 4th down it shouldn't have been any closer than our 36, maybe longer. I doubt they kick that and probably punt. Giving us close to 2 minutes to score, which we did anyway. It really shouldn't have mattered if the jags had the ball at their 25 or midfield. Hold 3 and out get the ball and go score, which we had time to do.
    The fact that our kicker seems so inept at onside kicks is concerning. He's a kicker. That's part of his job as a specialist. That should be part of his practice situation, but looks like it is not. Remember that embarrassing reverse wrong footed attempt.
    Plenty of kickers practice them but still don't come close to mastering them. It was a very asinine call by Tomlin when you had two timeouts and the 2 minute warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dislocatedday View Post
    I'm sure the general media will spout out something this week and through the offseason about AB and Bell not being great because they have not been able to win a Super Bowl, but seriously, if you look at the play of those two in the past two post-seasons they have been unbelievable. They are doing everything possible and then some to bring #7 to Pittsburgh............unfortunately the defense is not doing enough.
    Agreed and they are the best in football at the position they play. Damn fun to watch!

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    Re: Post Season (42 points how do you lose) angry thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Plenty of kickers practice them but still don't come close to mastering them. It was a very asinine call by Tomlin when you had two timeouts and the 2 minute warning.
    Gotta disagree here. I posted somewhere else . . . Chances of an onside kick working based on 2014-2016 = 15 or so percent. Chances of stopping the Jags offense based on the fourth quarter, 0 percent (no drive stops. The only drive that didn't end up with a score in the fourth quarter was the last drive of the game). You play the percentages and in that situation, the percentages clearly say, on-side kick. Because we were not going to stop their offense.


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