Haley out as OC

[86WARD]

[salamander]

Not sad to see Haley leave, but the defense still needs to be addressed...but that's a discussion for a different thread.

[NCSteeler]

This needs to be a wake up call to Tomlin. He must change a few things in his coaching style and what he allows and expects from his coaches and players

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[steelerdude15]

If he's excited to coach the pro bowl, something's wrong with him. He should be embarrassed that all he has to show for 9 pro bowlers is pro bowl coach

Could just be PR talk.

[vasteeler]

And yet Butler still on the team... SMH

[tube517]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-coordinator/

Todd Haley out as Steelers offensive coordinator


Crash probably rented a party room at the Tequila Cowboy

[AtlantaDan]

It’s been reported that it’s official and he will not return to Pittsburgh.

Yep - This from the P-G


Todd Haley’s tenure as Steelers offensive coordinator ended Wednesday, a team source told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201801170168

[tube517]

Grandma Fichtner!

[AtlantaDan]

And yet Butler still on the team... SMH

Someone was going to go - I agree someone on the defensive staff should be gone as well (given the flameouts of first round picks at OLB how does Porter survive?) but I get the move

No indication the best player on the Steelers defense has been taking shots at the coordinator for years or that Butler was working with talent close to the level of the offense - the two 4th down plays that worked on Sunday were due to raw talent, not play calling - axing both coordinators is a lot of self-inflicted disruption

Plus Butler has goodwill banked with the organization that Haley, who by all indications is a jackass, never did

[Shoes]

Might be munch's job, he didn't go to AZ for the second interview

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rdinals-again/

[tube517]

Might be munch's job, he didn't go to AZ for the second interview

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rdinals-again/

Munch stays

Ben staying

Bryant staying

Haley leaving




Quick somebody tell Richard Mann!

[AtlantaDan]

Munch stays

Ben staying

Bryant staying

Haley leaving




Quick somebody tell Richard Mann!

Yep - no question Haley was not beloved - he also becomes the convenient scapegoat for everything related to an under performing offense

[st33lersguy]

[Born2Steel]

Yep - no question Haley was not beloved - he also becomes the convenient scapegoat for everything related to an under performing offense

I think that's the major point. The offense did not under-achieve. The talent put up 42 points on the Jags, despite Haley's incredibly horrendous play calls. This offense should be putting up those points each week. Something was holding them back, and it's not the talent level.

[JayC]

the 4th and inches calls are unforgivable. fuck haley

[Craic]

I think that's the major point. The offense did not under-achieve. The talent put up 42 points on the Jags, despite Haley's incredibly horrendous play calls. This offense should be putting up those points each week. Something was holding them back, and it's not the talent level.

For the first 6-8 games, it was the QB and the RB. When they got their act together, the entire offense changed. As I've said in numerous threads now, I really don't care for Haley one way or another, but if you ask why this team didn't make it to the AFCCG, the vast majority of the blame falls on the defense, so changing OCs is not going to get us to the next step.

[BlackAndGold]

Without Haley, Ben is probably retired due to injuries.

Hope he finds work elsewhere, I for one am thankful for all the work Haley did. He was never the problem.

[tube517]

I hope his landlord locked up the place.

[tube517]

[AtlantaDan]

For the first 6-8 games, it was the QB and the RB. When they got their act together, the entire offense changed. As I've said in numerous threads now, I really don't care for Haley one way or another, but if you ask why this team didn't make it to the AFCCG, the vast majority of the blame falls on the defense, so changing OCs is not going to get us to the next step.

Everyone will correctly remember the defensive collapse against Jax, but without the defense holding the fort while the offense kicked field goals until the offense showed up starting around the Titans game this team was likely not getting a bye and certainly might have lost on the road in Jax even if the defense was not horrible (this has been an entirely different offense on the road for years, which is on the QB or the OC).

And going into turtle mode in the second half of the Pats game along with the end of game cluster arguably is the reason it was not Pats-Jags last weekend so significant blame can be distributed to Todd as well for why the Steelers are not playing this weekend.

Coaches wear out their welcomes and Haley wore out his with important players, perhaps some coaches, and maybe the owner (not a good move when your job is on the line in any occupation to make the news for getting rolled on New Years Eve).

I bet Butler has more goodwill banked at all levels of the organization than Haley did and he did not make the personnel choice to have no viable Plan B for the player you built the defense around going down in Cincinnati.

Since I am not certain canning Butler will get the Steelers to the next step either (Tomlin seems to be far more hands on with the defense and Tomlin is not going anywhere for now) I am for Haley going if only to eliminate one source of drama.

[lipps83]

hahaha, that would be the play of the century.

[Bluecoat96]

Somewhere in the depths of their mom's basement, Mr. Crash came in his pants at the news of Todd Haley getting canned.

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[Shoes]

Yep - no question Haley was not beloved - he also becomes the convenient scapegoat for everything related to an under performing offense

Post of the day!

[Moose]

Haley gone ! That's great....now what about the DEFENSE ROONEY ?? Stupidity ???? Doing the same shit over and over....not making any changes.....and expecting different results !!!!!! BUTLER--PORTER---LAKE--?

[vader29]

[Hawkman]

Munch stays

Ben staying

Bryant staying

Haley leaving




Quick somebody tell Richard Mann!

.......but is Nix staying

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Post of the day!

I think it was the bar fight.

[Edman]

Haley is gone. Hopefully Lebeau Jr follows suit.

[86WARD]

Doesn’t sound l8ke Defense is going anywhere. Danny Smith needs OUT!

[steelcityboyz]

He should be the Pro Bowl is the epitome of Tomlin coaching no preparation sloppy oorah football.

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Unless Tomlin changes a few things on how he coaches he will have a standing invitation at every pro bowl. I wouldn't be excited I'd be embarassed.

[Craic]

Haley gone ! That's great....now what about the DEFENSE ROONEY ?? Stupidity ???? Doing the same shit over and over....not making any changes.....and expecting different results !!!!!! BUTLER--PORTER---LAKE--?

I'm okay with Lake and Porter. They don't have a lot of say in who gets handed to them to train, but they're doing the best they can. Change the DC and then assess how the assistants are doing in a better scheme.