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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Round 1 Pick 28: Allen, Josh, QB, Wyoming (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 28: Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A)
    Round 3 Pick 28: Holland, Jeff, OLB, Auburn (A)
    Round 5 Pick 11: Wilson, Cedrick, WR, Boise State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 28: Cichy, Jack, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 2: J Hall, P, DT, Sam Houston State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 28: King, Jamarcus, CB, South Carolina (A)
    This is a pretty strong draft. I could definitely live with this.

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    1 ) ILB Vander Esch
    2 ) Safety Reid
    3 ) Running Back Penny
    5) Offensive Tackle Cappa
    5 ) Punter Dickson
    7 ) NT/DT Richardson
    7 ) S/Special teams. Apke

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    1: ILB RASHAAN EVANS , ALABAMA
    2: S KYZIR WHITE, WEST VIRGINIA
    3: RB RASHAAD PENNY , SAN DIEGO STATE
    5a: OLB LEON JACOBS,WISCONSIN
    5b: WR RICHIE JAMES , MIDDLE TENNESSEE
    7a: CB MICHAEL JOSEPH, DUBUQUE
    7b: DL JOSHUA FRAZIER , ALABAMA


    Still believe that ILB is the priority....and that we will sign a FA offensive lineman before the draft.
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    1. Jessie Bates, FS, Wake Forest (True center fielder, will play on 3rd downs when the defense goes subpackage and Burnnet goes into the box as a LB)
    2. James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (Deep threat WR. Bryant is a FA next season, James will be his replacement)
    3. Genard Avery, ILB, Memphis (A good athlete with upside as an off ball LB)
    5. Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State (6'5" red zone target with good hands)
    5. Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (Prototypical blocking TE that will bring depth to the position)
    7. ​Joshua Frazier, NT, Alabama (A project that can battle Big Dan for the back up NT job, also Dunbar knows him)
    7. Curtis Cothran, DE, Penn State (Another project defensive lineman with some solid measurables)


    **I had Mason Rudolph as my #1 pick, just not ready for that to be the case lol


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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Actually like this one a little better than your first mock LLT. Then again I like any draft that puts Evans in a Steeler uniform.


    1: ILB RASHAAN EVANS , ALABAMA
    2: S KYZIR WHITE, WEST VIRGINIA
    3: RB RASHAAD PENNY , SAN DIEGO STATE
    5a: OLB LEON JACOBS,WISCONSIN
    5b: WR RICHIE JAMES , MIDDLE TENNESSEE
    7a: CB MICHAEL JOSEPH, DUBUQUE
    7b: DL JOSHUA FRAZIER , ALABAMA

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    1. Jessie Bates, FS, Wake Forest (True center fielder, will play on 3rd downs when the defense goes subpackage and Burnnet goes into the box as a LB)
    2. James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (Deep threat WR. Bryant is a FA next season, James will be his replacement)
    3. Genard Avery, ILB, Memphis (A good athlete with upside as an off ball LB)
    5. Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State (6'5" red zone target with good hands)
    5. Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (Prototypical blocking TE that will bring depth to the position)
    7. ​Joshua Frazier, NT, Alabama (A project that can battle Big Dan for the back up NT job, also Dunbar knows him)
    7. Curtis Cothran, DE, Penn State (Another project defensive lineman with some solid measurables)


    **I had Mason Rudolph as my #1 pick, just not ready for that to be the case lol
    I think you can draft Bates almost two full rounds later based on what I am seeing in most projection systems. Other than that, I like it!!

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Variation on a theme:

    28: R1P28
    EDGE JOSH SWEAT
    FLORIDA STATE


    60: R2P28
    LB DARIUS LEONARD
    SOUTH CAROLINA STATE


    92: R3P28
    S TERRELL EDMUNDS
    VIRGINIA TECH


    148: R5P11
    DL FOLORUNSO FATUKASI
    CONNECTICUT


    165: R5P28
    TE TROY FUMAGALLI

    WISCONSIN


    220: R7P2
    RB ITO SMITH
    SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI


    246: R7P28
    WR CEDRICK WILSON
    BOISE STATE



    Sweat is potentially top 10 value at 28. But we have all heard that before - Bud Dupree. Leonard is a reach according to a ton of rankings at 2.28, but so were the remaining safeties and he wouldn't have been there in the third. Edmunds was the pick after Bates III went off the board two picks before. Not my favorite safety, but with the singing of Burnett, gambling on the crazy athletic guy is more possible. Whatever his name gets the team another DT style guy to add to the mix. Then we have the TE. Gamble on a small-school back to vastly outplay his draft slot. WR prospect.

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Variation on a theme:

    28: R1P28
    EDGE JOSH SWEAT
    FLORIDA STATE


    60: R2P28
    LB DARIUS LEONARD
    SOUTH CAROLINA STATE


    92: R3P28
    S TERRELL EDMUNDS
    VIRGINIA TECH


    148: R5P11
    DL FOLORUNSO FATUKASI
    CONNECTICUT


    165: R5P28
    TE TROY FUMAGALLI

    WISCONSIN


    220: R7P2
    RB ITO SMITH
    SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI


    246: R7P28
    WR CEDRICK WILSON
    BOISE STATE



    Sweat is potentially top 10 value at 28. But we have all heard that before - Bud Dupree. Leonard is a reach according to a ton of rankings at 2.28, but so were the remaining safeties and he wouldn't have been there in the third. Edmunds was the pick after Bates III went off the board two picks before. Not my favorite safety, but with the singing of Burnett, gambling on the crazy athletic guy is more possible. Whatever his name gets the team another DT style guy to add to the mix. Then we have the TE. Gamble on a small-school back to vastly outplay his draft slot. WR prospect.
    Very nice

    Sweat: you nailed it

    Leonard: I’d have zero problem with him at 60

    Edmunds: he’s a SS/ILB tweeter. Maybe he’s (finally) the guy who can cover the opposing team’s TE.

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Pick Player Pos College
    1:28 Ronnie Harrison FS Alabama
    2:28 Darius Leonard LB South Carolina St.
    3:28 Royce Freeman RB Oregon
    5:11 Keke Coutee WR Texas Tech
    5:28 Joe Giles-Harris LB Duke
    7:2 Jaylon Ferguson EDGE Louisiana Tech
    7:28 Matt Elam NT Kentucky
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    round 1 Pick 28: Landry, Harold, OLB/DE, Boston College
    Round 2 Pick 28: Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia
    Round 3 Pick 28: Leonard, Darius, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State
    Round 5 Pick 11: Watts, Armani, FS, Texas AM
    Round 5 Pick 28: Malone, KJ, OG, LSU
    Round 7 Pick 2: Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech
    Round 7 Pick 28: Springs, Arrion, CB, Oregon
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    these sims .... what can I say other than yea ok as if one could walk away with this one LOL ( used fanspeak this time )

    28: R1P28
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA


    60: R2P28
    EDGE JOSH SWEAT
    FLORIDA STATE


    92: R3P28
    LB DARIUS LEONARD
    SOUTH CAROLINA STATE


    148: R5P11
    RB MARK WALTON
    MIAMI


    165: R5P28
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA


    220: R7P2
    S GODWIN IGWEBUIKE
    NORTHWESTERN


    246: R7P28
    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STAT
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    RD1 - Roquan Smith ILB Ga
    RD2 - Josh Sweat Edge FSU
    RD3 - Bo Scarbrough RB Bama
    RD5a - Ada Aruna Edge Tulane
    RD5b - Allen Lazard WR Iowa State
    RD7a - Josh Frazier DL Bama
    RD7b - Cedric Wilson WR Boise State
    Last edited by Born2Steel; 04-06-2018 at 07:43 AM.

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I think you can draft Bates almost two full rounds later based on what I am seeing in most projection systems. Other than that, I like it!!
    I don't believe most sites have caught on Bates rise.

    Daniel Jeremiah has him ranked 30th in his top 50
    Bates is a tall, lean safety for the Demon Deacons. He has outstanding range, instincts and ball skills from the deep middle and he flashed the ability to match up in the slot. He's a very fluid athlete and has plenty of makeup speed if he's caught out of position. Against the run, he's quick to key/read and fill the alley. He is a low, wrap/drag tackler and he does have some misses on tape. His lack of strength shows up at times. Overall, Bates is a very athletic middle-of-the-field defender and he has the versatility to cover in the slot. He should quickly emerge as a Pro Bowl-caliber player.


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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    little different approach this time

    our exit from the playoffs had a direct coloration with being gashed by the run ...

    this aims to stop that we can get a S next year as Barnett can man the store for now


    Pick Player Pos College
    1:28 Leighton Vander Esch LB Boise St.
    2:28 Tim Settle NT Virginia Tech
    3:28 Mark Walton RB Miami (FL)
    5:11 Keke Coutee WR Texas Tech
    5:28 Adonis Alexander CB Virginia Tech
    7:2 Jaylon Ferguson EDGE Louisiana Tech
    7:28 Brendan Mahon G Penn St.
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    I don't believe most sites have caught on Bates rise.

    Daniel Jeremiah has him ranked 30th in his top 50
    Didn't realize he was rising so fast up the latest draft boards.

    I liked it better when he had a 4th round grade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    little different approach this time

    our exit from the playoffs had a direct coloration with being gashed by the run ...

    this aims to stop that we can get a S next year as Barnett can man the store for now


    Pick Player Pos College
    1:28 Leighton Vander Esch LB Boise St.
    2:28 Tim Settle NT Virginia Tech
    3:28 Mark Walton RB Miami (FL)
    5:11 Keke Coutee WR Texas Tech
    5:28 Adonis Alexander CB Virginia Tech
    7:2 Jaylon Ferguson EDGE Louisiana Tech
    7:28 Brendan Mahon G Penn St.
    Interesting idea. Kinda ironic that it I see it the same day I see this http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/04/casey-hampton-on-playing-nt-what-i-did-is-almost-entirely-extinct-now/

    Just not sure that Settle is going to a popular pick come draft day. Doesn't fit the current trends at DT. Billings and othes (who may be more talented?) plumetted just a few years ago...But he sure is a big boy!

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Texasteel View Post
    2: S KYZIR WHITE, WEST VIRGINIA
    3: RB RASHAAD PENNY , SAN DIEGO STATE
    Two of my “very biased” favorites (my parents alma mater, my brother’s alma mater).

    Joking aside, those two picks are great.

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    RD 1: LB RASHAAN EVANS, ALABAMA
    Sticking with ILB being our greatest need. Still a toss up for me if we go with Evans or Vander Esch

    RD 2: RB SONY MICHEL, GEORGIA
    Colbert is saying that Bell will be our RB this year...but I have no confidence that we will sign him to a long term contract. Michel can run, catch and block. I think either he or Rashaad Penny may be a Steeler this year.

    RD 3: S KYZER WHITE, WEST VIRGINIA
    I want to go with Bates at this spot but I think its more likely that White is still on the board. Bates is the more athletic...White has the better instincts.

    RD 5: DL FOLORUNSO FATUKASI, CONNECTICUT
    We need another big body up front when we run the 4 man fronts. Fatukasi could be what we need to plug up the middle.

    RD 5: WR RICHIE JAMES, MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
    Most mocks have him as s 7th round pick....I do NOT see him making it out of the fifth round. he needs to bluk up but he catches absolutely everything thrown his way.

    RD 7: OLB LEON JACOBS, WISCONSIN
    Project player with great size, strength and speed. If he is coached up ....he is a steal.

    RD 7: CB MICHAEL JOSEPH, DUBUQUE
    Another project who needs some time to take ultra athleticism and have it transfer to the NFL level.
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post


    Interesting idea. Kinda ironic that it I see it the same day I see this http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/04...y-extinct-now/

    Just not sure that Settle is going to a popular pick come draft day. Doesn't fit the current trends at DT. Billings and othes (who may be more talented?) plumetted just a few years ago...But he sure is a big boy!
    another interesting thing is this ( was posted today ) from our old friend Curt https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...fense-in-2018/
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    My walk the mock. I envision my future mocks getting a little boring as I continue to put Bates and Leonard as 1-2. That would be my ideal scenario at 1 and 2

    1:28 Jessie Bates FS Wake Forest
    2:28 Darius Leonard LB South Carolina St.
    3:28 Mark Walton RB Miami (FL)
    5:11 Hercules Mata'afa EDGE Washington St.
    5:28 Mike White QB Western Kentucky
    7:2 Will Dissly TE Washington
    7:28 Jordan Thomas CB Oklahoma

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    another interesting thing is this ( was posted today ) from our old friend Curt https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...fense-in-2018/
    The NT issue is interesting from a move countermove perspective. Defenses have adapted to a pass wacky league by shifting responsibility for penetration and pass rush back to the down front. Discourages two gap and using the big uglies as sponges to soak up blockers. Teams like Jags and the Titans have responded by bulking up up front and bringing old school power plays back in an attempt to push around lighter fronts.

    The question is will enough teams revisit that on offense to make it valuable for defenses to return to strong run stuffing fronts? I donít know. But it makes it interesting to project where trends are going. I still believe a pure run stuffing NT does have a role but not as a front line feature of a defense. I think there is just too much movement is asked of down linemen to plug a relatively immobile nose in there and call it a day.

    But on the other hand there are many reasons Iím not paid to build NFL defenses!

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    RD1:LVE - ILB
    RD2:Ogbonnia Okoronkwo - Edge
    RD3:Allen Lazard - WR
    RD5a:Frank Ragnow - OG
    RD5b:Genard Avery - ILB/OLB
    RD7a:Austin Corbett - OG
    RD7b:Troy Fumagalli - TE

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    RD1: Jessie Bates Safety
    RD2: D.J. Chark WR
    RD3: Frank Ragnow OC
    RD5a: Shaun Dion Hamilton ILB
    RD5b: Troy Fumagalli TE
    RD7a: Wyatt Teller OG
    RD7b: Kahlil McKenzie NT

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    1. Jessie Bates, FS, Wake Forest
    2. Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
    3. Richie James, WR, MTSU
    5. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma
    5. Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State
    7. ​Jordan Mailata, Tackle, International(AU) (Rugby star, 6'8", athletic, 20 years old. Give Munchak a project to work with. Steelers brought him in for a pre draft visit)
    7. Joshua Frazier, NT, Alabama
    Last edited by BlackAndGold; 04-17-2018 at 03:07 AM.


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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    RD1: Mason Rudolph QB
    RD2: Lorenzo Carter OLB/ILB
    RD3: Terrell Edmunds Safety
    RD5a: Troy Fumagalli TE
    RD5b: Wyatt Teller OG
    RD7a: Josh Frazier DL
    RD7b: Jack Cichy ILB/OLB

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    these sims .... what can I say other than yea ok as if one could walk away with this one LOL ( used fanspeak this time )
    Oh, yeah. Even set on the difficult level, it seems you really need to use a ranking list that comes "somewhat" close to your line of thinking... or you get

    28: R1P28
    LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH
    BOISE STATE

    60: R2P28
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    92: R3P28
    DL TIM SETTLE
    VIRGINIA TECH

    148: R5P11
    S KYZIR WHITE
    WEST VIRGINIA

    165: R5P28
    LB DARIUS LEONARD
    SOUTH CAROLINA STATE

    220: R7P2
    WR JAVON WIMS
    GEORGIA

    246: R7P28
    CB LEVI WALLACE
    ALABAMA

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    RD1: Rashaan Evans ILB
    RD2: Lorenzo Carter OLB/ILB
    RD3: Kyzir White Safety/ILB
    RD5a: Allen Lazard WR
    RD5b: Wyatt Teller OG
    RD7a: Josh Frazier DL
    RD7b: Riley Ferguson QB

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    RD1: Rashaan Evans ILB
    RD2: Lorenzo Carter OLB/ILB
    RD3: Kyzir White Safety/ILB
    RD5a: Allen Lazard WR
    RD5b: Wyatt Teller OG
    RD7a: Josh Frazier DL
    RD7b: Riley Ferguson QB
    first 3 rounds are killer
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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    1:28 Rashaan Evans LB Alabama
    2:28 Josh Sweat EDGE Florida St.
    3:28 Armani Watts FS Texas A&M
    5:11 Akrum Wadley RB Iowa
    5:28 Kevin Toliver CB LSU
    7:2 Maea Teuhema G SLU
    7:28 Darren Carrington WR Utah

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    Re: Early 2018 Mock Draft

    My latest mock from walkthemock.com for PIT via Default ranking

    1:28 - LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.
    2:28 - QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma St.
    3:28 - EDGE Josh Sweat, Florida St.
    5:11 - WR Keke Coutee, Texas Tech
    5:28 - RB Nyheim Hines, NC St.
    7:2 - G Sam Jones, Arizona St.
    7:28 - CB Brandon Facyson, Virginia Tech
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