Max Kellerman this morning convinced me that the James play was a TD. His knee down and pulling the ball in constituted possession. The ensuing stretch was a football play and it crossed the plane.
As for Ben... isn't a throw away the equivalent of a spike in that situation?? Ben has zero excuse for that ridiculous pass. Ben and Davis are the goats of this game.
Maybe...but the decision to throw into triple coverage was made by Ben. Bad decision, should have thrown out of bounds, Boz kicks us into OT. Oh well...
If you heard the interview, the emphasis was clearly on his disagreement with the coaches decision to throw. That decision was the correct one. Five seconds were left after the ridiculous throw and interception. There was no fault in the call not to spike it. I can't even imagine the outrage if they'd spiked/kicked and then lost in OT. Now, if he wants to say the coaches drew up that play, then I can find plenty of fault with that. But I haven't heard where the fake spike/ one option play came from. That leads me to believe that Ben had a lot to do with that. Just speculation on my part. I'd like to know for sure if anyone has heard.
I can't wait for the day that Ben retires so that Steeler Nation can find someone else to constantly complain about.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Listen I've been a Steelers fan since before they won their first Super Bowl. I know what it's like to have bad quarterbacks. Ben is top 5 in the league. I don't constantly whine about Ben. And Ben does throw people under the bus. Everyone sees it but the homers. Just because you get asked a question doesn't mean you have to answer it in an inflammatory way.
Let's just hope Ben thinks about this in the Playoffs. I'd much rather lose this game because of that bad decision than one in the Playoffs. I think we have a chance when we play the Cheats again, even at Foxboro. But it will be close and if anyone messes up, we're done. But now everyone has a chance to redeem themselves.
And the coaches can think of something to slow Gronk down. I mean, you probably can't stop him altogether, but not leaving him wide open doesn't seem like a bad idea.
I know it’s frustrating but look at some of those catches. They were incredible. That’s what man coverage is. Double teams are zones in the NFL. This is what everyone wanted. Now we’ve seen it. Now the chess match begins again.
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Why the fake spike? Why not send Bell out, have BB survey his options, and if no one is open, BB throws it away?
Because, the fake spike requires a quick/hurried throw... which doesn’t really allow BB the opportunity to think about throwing it away.
With Bell, you don’t need a trick play. Just line up and rely on your talent.
First of all, my post wasn't directed at you but for some reason you felt the need to get defensive about it. I've also been a Steelers fan for over 40 years so I'm anything but a homer. Answers and statements can be interpreted in different ways. I take them for what they are and don't look for controversy or drama.
There's going to be a rough patch for this team when Ben retires so I try to appreciate what we've had since Ben came into the league.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Too much arguing over a game manager.
Let's focus on beating the Fake Oilers and Macho Man Tom Savage.
Well you quoted me and seemed to be directing your comment to me. I appreciate Ben too. But there are times I haven’t supported his off field conduct. And you don’t have to look hard to find drama when Ben talks to the media. His reputation as a drama queen is his own doing. I can separate that from his on field play though. The throw was a bad decision. Period. It gets belabored because people on here try to defend it. Time to move on.
Do you see the irony here? Some want to ignore all of Ben's off field issues, drama, etc and back him up because he is "their QB" and they have his back. While at times Ben's comments calling out guys in the media, despite his ability to do it face to face in the locker room, are not deemed as "having the back" of his teammates.
So its OK for "their QB" to not have his teammates back, but its mandatory that teammates and fans "have Bens back."
There is tons of irony in it all. Like I said somewhere else, I really don't think Ben recognizes the terrible flaws of his own communication style. He stirs the pot and then acts incredulous that the media runs with it. I think he's genuinely a solid guy who's matured from where he was in his mid-20's. But at this point, it's just who he is. I'm sure glad that he's our QB and I hope he remains for another 3-4 years.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Do these dudes just sit at home and be like:
"Now everyone on the internet will agree with me! Finally, I am vindicated! To the message boards to share my tired lame arguments for the 10,000th time! BUT this time it will be different and the others anguish over their beloved Steelers loss will burn away their homerism and reveal the truth --my truth!! Everyone will agree with me! I will be crowned king of the internet and go down as a truth telling hero!"
Agreed
But this was a classic Ben way to resolve the discussion regarding communications after the James catch then not a catch through the game ending INT
Asked about late-game planning, Roethlisberger said the Steelers have a "great communication environment" between himself and the head coach, coordinator, assistants and offensive line.
Asked why that communication seemed to have issues in the final seconds, Roethlisberger said, "I don't really remember, to tell you the truth. Because it's so long ago now."
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...plan-breakdown
Yep - three days ago - who can honestly recall what might have been said