OK, so how was THIS a catch?
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201712...964&tab=videos
OK, so how was THIS a catch?
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201712...964&tab=videos
My guess is they ruled him a ball carrier after taking two steps and also palming the football. There was also no clear evidence in him losing possession of the ball. It moved a little, but it didn't spin and his hand stayed under the ball from what I could see. It just goes to show how hard a ref's job really is. Definitely a catch 22 in those situations, because one fan base is going to hate you.Originally Posted by fansince'76
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Based on what they said with James "drop" and the fact that the receiver rolled over with his hand on the SIDE of the ball, it moved and he squashed it to the ground with his body to regain control, that shouldn't have been a completion.
Here's an idea, how about not letting the ball move! AS a player, you have to know the lofty standards of what is and isn't a catch nowadays. As a player, you also have to know that the refs will find any reason to rule in favor of the Patriots so knowing that going to the ground you have to make sure the ball isn't moving (which shouldn't be too much to ask for anyway).
Of course what would help is if the Steelers had a TE worth something that isn't injured all the time
you are talking about the Seth Roberts bobbling catch and I completely agree.
What you leave out is that he consciously reached out the ball to break the plane which IS a football move. Once he did that and broke the plane ... touchdown.
Exactly. And as someone else pointed out, how, exactly, do you reach the ball out to begin with if you don't already have control of it?
I'm not getting over it. Bullshit call.
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He was bobbling the ball the whole time and then used the ground to control it. No catch.
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Add the Jets game where the TD was taken away by the refs and you've got 8-6.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Nope. Watch from :52 to :57. That's control. Touchdown.
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And BTW, No Quick Hits thread today.
1. I have a massive head/chest cold and feel like crap.
2. I'm not over it. When they take 6 minutes to find some obscure rule they can twist to hand the Pats* the game the we clearly had won, I'm really, really not over it.
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Oh, but this isn't taunting.
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I was obviously talking about the Seth Roberts "catch".
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Ah, see that now. Still waking up. My bad.
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Get some coffee!Ah, see that now. Still waking up. My bad.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
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Always, always involves the Pats* . It seems they create silly rules to pull put when it's convenient to hand NE a win. I know....conspiracy and all that. The fact is, the NFL brings it on themselves.
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Yes, you are 100% correct. Had James taken even 1 step toward the goal line and lunged in, TD. BUT, and this is the important part, the fact that he immediately went to his knee without taking a step, and fell across the goal line, makes it a continuation of the catch. That is why it was ruled incomplete.
The eyes tell you it IS a catch and that is the frustrating part. It was caught, then carried over the goal line, should be a TD, by eye test. By rule the ball came out during the catch process. SUCKS, but what it is.
Maybe they should have measured whether he broke the plane with an index card...
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Again, you're correct in everything you're saying. James did not COMPLETE the catch all the way to the ground, 'BY RULE'. That is the ONLY reason it was ruled incomplete. We all saw James make the catch and put the ball across the line. How he did that is why it matters that the ball moved when he hit the ground. There was a Bell play a few seasons ago where Bell's helmet was knocked off as he crossed the line. He continued to fall forward into the endzone. By rule, the play is over at the spot the helmet came off. It did not matter that his semi-conscious form naturally fell beyond the line, he was down by rule at the 1inch line. Some rules just don't work all the time, but they work most times. Last night and the Bell call are 2 examples of where they do not work.
Still don't accept that it wasn't a TD...
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Winner winner chicken dinner
I said that in the GDT. Should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kickoff. But that was a moot point because of Juju's catch and run.
Oh, but this isn't taunting.
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You are right. The rule is the rule. It sucks but it is.
Thing is, they better have irrefutable evidence to overturn. That has always been the case. In this case, it wasn't there.
If it was that cut and dry, it wouldn't have taken 10 minutes for the review.
It was a TD. Rule or no rule. He went down on his knee, stretched, while stretching his elbow went down and broke the plane. After that he bobled it without clear evidence that the ball hit ground. TD! Plain and simple.
Damn totally missed that one
Oh, but this isn't taunting.
Tony Dungy said it best. In every other level of football, flag football, youth football, highschool football, college football....that is a catch, but the NFL created the rule based on Calvin Johnson's catch several years ago and while its a terrible rule, its the rule.
Honestly, when the Steelers punted the ball away with over 2 minutes left, I knew the drive by Brady was coming, but the Steelers had chances to make plays, like Davis INT, Davis deny the 2 point convert and the secondary not giving up 3 successive passes to Gronkdudeski for 60 yards combined.
I've been a fan for over 35 years and love the Steelers, but my life didn't noticeably change when they won Super Bowls, nor did it change when they lost in '95 or 2011. Its football folks, enjoy it for what it is and move on to the upcoming week.
Last night I thought the rule was stupid. After watching this video today, the rule is still stupid, but that was as close to a catch as you could get. He caught the ball had clear control of it, pulled it in and then extended it across the goal line. That shouldn’t have been over turned.
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