Fixed that for you.Originally Posted by 86WARD
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Fixed that for you.
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That's the problem with the NFL. There's no consistency on ANYTHING! Last week the Dolphins beat up on the Pats because their DBs were allowed to play physical. The refs didn't call anything. This week, it's a whole different story.
Watch what happens to Thomas Davis of the Panthers. He took out Devante Adams today with a vicious blind side crack back block directly to his helmet. It was a much worse hit than JuJu's. How much do you want to bet that he won't even get suspended? I'm just waiting for that to get completely passed over by the NFL.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
If chiefs win their division and I think we would be number 3 seed of course comes down to what we do the last 2 games
https://deadspin.com/why-wasnt-sterl...tch-1818735685
not fixed. Just dumb.
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Yeah, i don't think anyone's going to argue with you on that one.
Personally, I think the rule of a completion makes a lot of sense in the field of play. However, it should be treated like a runner who fumbles when it comes to the goal line or going out of bounds. If the person had the ball in his hands when he crosses the goal line or goes out of bounds, it's a catch (with the caveat that if he's in the air, he has to touch a bodypart or two feet to the ground while still having control of the ball.
Best the Chiefs can do is 10-6. We've already won 11.
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Nope. The league's actions on suspensions are completely fair—they even said so.(He probably won't be fined either because it wasn't a primetime nationally televised game.)
Stretching out for the goal line is not something that it's possible to do if you don't have control of the ball. Play was over as soon as it crossed the goal line. Unless they want to stand logic on its head, which even though they obviously do on a regular basis, doesn't make it any more correct.
For example, a 10-4 team is now the top seed in the AFC ahead of a 12-2 team, yet somehow that's normal. Great for a laugh but not so much for credibility.
You're right, that was a good call on your part.
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That is the part I struggle with on the call. He caught it then moved the ball forward and stuck the ball out across the goal line. It seemed to me to be a football move and he was a runner at that point.
These calls do happen though, and the rule is open to interpretation. In that situation tonight though, in that big of a game, it gets magnified greatly.
Grimble has more of a football move though. James didn’t really have a move did he?
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A drop to the knee and a stretch. It's on James for not holding on. Now wait... it's Haley's fault. My bad.
I think that’s all considered part of the catching motion. Where Grimble made a catch, ran, touched hand to ground and dove...
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Can't tell if your being serious, or being an ass and taking a run at me.
From what I understand, the issue here isn't whether it was a football move or not. The issue is that his momentum was taking him to the ground the entire time. He used his knee as a pivot point to redirect his body, but his momentum was still taking him to the ground. So, until he either breaks that momentum or hits the ground with complete control of the football, he has not yet caught the ball (according to the rules, again AFAIK).
Well, anybody watching the Cowboys Raiders game right now and see the catch just made by Seth Roberts that was reviewed? He lost control of the ball going to ground (not in endzone) and got full control again but not until after ball hit the ground.
It was upheld as a catch in this case........no consistency in the referee calls.
LOL - I thought it would be at least a week before a completely contradictory call would be made. Turns out it was barely a few hours. But, not surprised one bit.
Yeah, they would have made the same ruling had it been Gronk.
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Unbelievable!!! I just watched a replay of that play and Roberts never did have control of that ball, all the way to the ground, and yet they give him a catch.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201712...964&tab=videos
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Unreal. How was that a catch, after James' wasn't?
The end zone kicks in a whole different set of standards and rule interpretations that were inserted after the Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson stuff a few seasons ago.
For some reason the NFL has one set of standards for field of play and another for the end zone. Stupid.
Also both were bad calls.
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Anyone care to wager the likelihood that the ruling on the field would have stayed the same if the player was wearing a white #87 jersey?
And has Rogers had his jersey returned to him from the play in the end zone? Surprised he didn't get flagged for a jersey violation.
Time for my annual rant on how the NFL isn't fixed - it is just dumb (the league that is)! I thought I wouldn't get it in this year. So excited!
How do you keep the massive # of people that would need to be involved quiet?
1. The committee of folks in the league office that would need to review each week and each season to design and implement the "Script". So like any corporate committee, that's 3-6 people.
2. The individual game referees. That is 7 people per game.
3. The replay officials onsite and in the league office. Figure that is another dozen or so people.
So that is a conservative estimate of roughly 100-120 people that the NFL has to annually ensure that it somehow compensates more than the extremely lucrative book deal, criminal immunity, and notoriety would be for blowing the whistle on all this. Now for a $13 billion dollar industry, the certainly have some cash to throw around. But that much cash? Figure multiple millions to each person. Each year. How do you hide that? Where would the paid off folks even be able to spend it? Surely the IRS would notice if a lawyer by day and NFL ref by night suddenly went from living like they pulled in hundreds of thousands to low millions per year to all of the money. It is one of the primary ways the Feds catch criminals - unexplained funding. So for this to work, we have to figure out how the NFL can pay off all the people it would need to be intimately involved in the "fix" without anyone noticing they are being paid off. Can it happen once here or there, absolutely. But someone like Ed Hochuli has been officiating for 27 seasons. Where did he hide his $100 million and why would you participate in an illegal enterprise that allows you no benefit?
For the sake of fun, let us all assume that the "fix" really is in. The conspirators have conspired and all sworn a blood oath or something. Why would the league screw the Steelers? In fact, the Steelers are one of the exact few franchises in the league that you would want to succeed. They sell tons of merchandise. Their massive fan base buys tickets (an increasing problem for every team is slumping ticket sales) and shows up in stadiums all across the league. They are TV Ratings gold. Their roster is star-laden and easy to market. The league has no incentive to fix games against the Steelers. Unless the fix was so the league didn't make money...
Finally in a "fixed" league, why the hell would the NFL have an AFC playoff picture featuring the turds that are the Ravens, Chiefs (they may be turning it around), and Chargers? AFC wildcard weekend is shaping up to feature some pretty bad teams!
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It's obviously fixed, bro. Last year the league and the Pats were in cahoots on Brady's 4-game suspension. They conspired to give him 4 games rest so that he'd be fresh for the playoffs.
Nope. The league is inconsistent, dumb, and maddening but I honestly believe it is not fixed. Too many ways for the "fix" to out. In all major pro sports that "fixes" have happened, it has always come out.
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Hey, I think you missed his sarcasm font.
Okay! My apologies! I should've realized that. I think my sarcasm detector is just broken.
You have the crop report!
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Such an under-rated movie, IMO.
Yeah, it is pretty far-fetched that the league is "fixed." The more people it takes to be involved in a conspiracy, the higher the probability of it unraveling. Anything beyond, like, a small handful of people means the probability of it being exposed is roughly 100%.
On the other hand, is it possible to have one guy who doesn't know what a touchdown is? Or one guy who doesn't know what a touchdown is and also has a hard-on for the Patriots, so he's made the same call more than once in recent weeks? Or maybe for a fair cross-section of officials to subconsciously favor a team because they are impressed with them?
Those all seem more within the realm of possibility. "LeBron gets the calls" is not just something they made up. Hell, there was a study done once that showed a huge difference between the number of fouls/penalties called on teams wearing light uniforms and dark uniforms (teams wearing red and black got significantly more penalties, if I remember right).
At any rate, fixed ... idiotic ... same difference, I care about results. And the result was that they fucked up. And another result is that EVERY time I have to watch the Patriots, there is at least one game-altering play that either has to do with the officiating or with unbelievable luck (which also often involves something like the play being allowed to continue well after it would normally be over, or a huge break for the other team being called off because the whistle blew, or some such horsecrap).
So, fixed? No. Biased? I'd say so.
See you Space Cowboy ...
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My dog is 'fixed'.
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