Page 6 of 12 FirstFirst ... 45678 ... LastLast
Results 151 to 180 of 337

Thread: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

  1. #151
    Senior Member Array title="BlackAndGold has a reputation beyond repute"> BlackAndGold's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Gender
    Posts
    5,086

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Where would Dobbs go in this draft class? late first early 2nd?

    This whole draft seems weak.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

  2. #152
    Senior Member Array title="teegre has a reputation beyond repute"> teegre's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    15,076

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Where would Dobbs go in this draft class? late first early 2nd?

    This whole draft seems weak.


    Hence, that is why I’ve suggested going with Dobbs (and surrounding him with talent).

  3. #153
    Senior Member Array title="st33lersguy has a reputation beyond repute">

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    15,230

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Where would Dobbs go in this draft class? late first early 2nd?

    This whole draft seems weak.
    4th at the latest considering how weak last's draft class was graded

  4. #154
    Senior Member Array title="BlackAndGold has a reputation beyond repute"> BlackAndGold's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Gender
    Posts
    5,086

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    4th at the latest considering how weak last's draft class was graded
    Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes >> Darnold, Rosen, Allen

    Also last years draft was deep at other positions. As I posted, this whole draft class is weak Imo.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

  5. #155
    Senior Member Array title="st33lersguy has a reputation beyond repute">

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    15,230

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes >> Darnold, Rosen, Allen

    Also last years draft was deep at other positions. As I posted, this whole draft class is weak Imo.
    Even factoring how much deeper the 2017 class was at other positions, late 1st/early 2nd is stretching it.

    Late 3rd at the absolute max

  6. #156
    Senior Member Array title="DesertSteel has a reputation beyond repute"> DesertSteel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Arizona
    Gender
    Posts
    10,586

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes >> Darnold, Rosen, Allen

    Also last years draft was deep at other positions. As I posted, this whole draft class is weak Imo.
    Watson perhaps but there’s no evidence re the other two that backs that up.

    Drafting QBs is half skill and half luck.

  7. #157
    Senior Member Array title="Mojouw has a reputation beyond repute"> Mojouw's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Gender
    Posts
    20,258

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    I thought this was supposed to be the best class since 04. That's what everyone said 9 weeks ago. Now they all suck. 9 weeks from now they'll all be good again after some kid kills it in a bowl game. 9 weeks after that people will "watch the tape" and everyone will suck again. Then it'll be the draft and 6 guys will go in round one.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  8. #158
    Senior Member Array title="DesertSteel has a reputation beyond repute"> DesertSteel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Arizona
    Gender
    Posts
    10,586

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Take one in rounds 3-7 every year!

  9. #159
    Senior Member Array title="43Hitman has a reputation beyond repute">
    3 Reel Treasure Slots Champion!

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Gender
    Posts
    7,211

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I thought this was supposed to be the best class since 04. That's what everyone said 9 weeks ago. Now they all suck. 9 weeks from now they'll all be good again after some kid kills it in a bowl game. 9 weeks after that people will "watch the tape" and everyone will suck again. Then it'll be the draft and 6 guys will go in round one.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Lol, pretty much this.


  10. #160
    Senior Member Array title="Born2Steel has a reputation beyond repute"> Born2Steel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    11,915

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    You do NOT have to draft the 'best' QB in the draft. People will pour over film and mechanics, and footwork, and accuracy, and so on...AND fundamentally, Eli should be as good as Payton. Brees never should have made it back as a starter. Judging by mechanics, Favre should have been awful and a wasted pick. I still contend the QB we need to follow Ben, once he retires, is already in the league and sitting on IR in Denver. In fact, I would like to see Lynch AND Kelley get an opportunity here. I'm willing to give Dobbs his chance, but I did watch him at Tennessee a lot over his career and he was not very accurate with the football. He didn't get much help, but this offensive scheme needs an accurate passer. Also someone that can move when needed.

  11. #161
    Senior Member Array title="polamalubeast has a reputation beyond repute">

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    28,381

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    I still think Roethlisberger will be with us next year, so ....

  12. #162
    Senior Member Array title="BlackAndGold has a reputation beyond repute"> BlackAndGold's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Gender
    Posts
    5,086

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

  13. #163
    Senior Member Array title="BlackAndGold has a reputation beyond repute"> BlackAndGold's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Gender
    Posts
    5,086

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    Even factoring how much deeper the 2017 class was at other positions, late 1st/early 2nd is stretching it.

    Late 3rd at the absolute max
    Dobbs was considered a late 3rd/early 4th round pick this year. (Mayock had him in round 3, Mel Kiper had him as a possible 2nd round pick)

    Not sure how he would still be ranked the same. Weak drafts pushes up talent. I'll agree late first is stretching it, but after that it's very possible.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

  14. #164
    Senior Member Array title="st33lersguy has a reputation beyond repute">

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    15,230

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Dobbs was considered a late 3rd/early 4th round pick this year. (Mayock had him in round 3, Mel Kiper had him as a possible 2nd round pick)

    Not sure how he would still be ranked the same. Weak drafts pushes up talent. I'll agree late first is stretching it, but after that it's very possible.
    You were talking about where Dobbs would end up and he ended up a late 4th round pick this past year

  15. #165
    Senior Member Array title="BlackAndGold has a reputation beyond repute"> BlackAndGold's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Gender
    Posts
    5,086

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    My intentions was about projections.

    In this awful class(again, not just QB's) Dobbs would be viewed as a 2nd rounder at the very least.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

  16. #166
    Senior Member Array title="hawaiiansteeler has a reputation beyond repute"> hawaiiansteeler's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    The Aloha State
    Gender
    Posts
    8,579

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Take one in rounds 3-7 every year!
    you mean like Tee Martin, Brian St Pierre, Omar Jacobs, Dennis Dixon and Landry Jones?

  17. #167
    Ghost Poster Array title="ALLD has a reputation beyond repute"> ALLD's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Treasure Coast
    Posts
    11,373

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    you mean like Tee Martin, Brian St Pierre, Omar Jacobs, Dennis Dixon and Landry Jones?
    Dennis Dixon has 2 SB rings.
    All Defense!

  18. #168
    Senior Member Array title="hawaiiansteeler has a reputation beyond repute"> hawaiiansteeler's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    The Aloha State
    Gender
    Posts
    8,579

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by ALLD View Post
    Dennis Dixon has 2 SB rings.
    amazing, while QBs like Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts and Fran Tarkenton have none.

  19. #169
    Senior Member Array title="Born2Steel has a reputation beyond repute"> Born2Steel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    11,915

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Dennis Dixon has 2 rings while also never seeing the field. What does that even mean?

  20. #170
    Senior Member Array title="JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue has a reputation beyond repute"> JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Gender
    Posts
    5,653

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    That kid from Stanford Costello impressed me last night! Any idea what RD he may go ?

  21. #171
    Senior Member Array title="Born2Steel has a reputation beyond repute"> Born2Steel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    11,915

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Last draft QB success is based on Trubisky, Watson, and Mahomes? Next draft QB class success will be based on Rosen, Mayfield, and Allen?

    This is not an accurate tool to measure by. By that method, Aaron Rodgers was a bust until Favre left GB. Dak was the 'steal of the draft', at the end of last season. Today, not so much. As with most things NFL, it's a process, and a system. Kizer 'could be' in the running for OROY maybe, if he was starting for the Jags, Buccs, or Bills instead of the Browns.

  22. #172
    Senior Member Array title="teegre has a reputation beyond repute"> teegre's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    15,076

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    My gut keeps telling me that the Steelers are going to draft Mason Rudolph (QB, Oklahoma St.) at #32.

    I’ve averred that they could go with Dobbs (and add a TE), but I just cannot shake this feeling.

  23. #173
    Senior Member Array title="El-Gonzo Jackson has a reputation beyond repute"> El-Gonzo Jackson's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    7,629

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    My gut keeps telling me that the Steelers are going to draft Mason Rudolph (QB, Oklahoma St.) at #32.

    I’ve averred that they could go with Dobbs (and add a TE), but I just cannot shake this feeling.
    I hope not. From what I have seen of Rudolf, he makes Kevin Hogan look like a great NFL QB. Try some Rolaids for your gut.

  24. #174
    Senior Member Array title="DesertSteel has a reputation beyond repute"> DesertSteel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Arizona
    Gender
    Posts
    10,586

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Ben will tone down the retirement talk this offseason and focus on getting #4. Thus the Steelers will draft another OLB to drop into coverage at #32.

  25. #175
    Senior Member Array title="teegre has a reputation beyond repute"> teegre's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    15,076

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Try some Rolaids for your gut.
    Maybe some prune juice.

    QUESTION:
    If BB retires, SteelersCanada suggested signing Tyrod Taylor. Since the Bills are trying to run him out of town, it’s completely possible. And, Taylor isn’t half bad... especially if he has AB, Bell, and our O-line.

  26. #176
    Senior Member Array title="DesertSteel has a reputation beyond repute"> DesertSteel's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Arizona
    Gender
    Posts
    10,586

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Maybe some prune juice.

    QUESTION:
    If BB retires, SteelersCanada suggested signing Tyrod Taylor. Since the Bills are trying to run him out of town, it’s completely possible. And, Taylor isn’t half bad... especially if he has AB, Bell, and our O-line.
    I'd go Keenum over Taylor but Taylor would be a viable option - at least as a stop gap.

  27. #177
    Senior Member Array title="cubanstogie has a reputation beyond repute"> cubanstogie's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    2,112

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Maybe some prune juice.

    QUESTION:
    If BB retires, SteelersCanada suggested signing Tyrod Taylor. Since the Bills are trying to run him out of town, it’s completely possible. And, Taylor isn’t half bad... especially if he has AB, Bell, and our O-line.
    I really like Tyrod. A lot of poise, good accurate arm and he obviously can run. With the right talent he could be a poor mans Russel Wilson. After watching Tom Savage suck balls tonight he reminded me of Landry Jones. Slow, no passion and had deer in headlights look. We all know Landry will lead us no where. Dobbs has a couple of years to develop and then jury is out. If Ben does retire I think Tyrod would be best choice, or AJ Mccarron. I don't see any for sure things. Mayfield ,Rudolf ,Finley, are a role of dice. Lamar Jackson would be my pick over any of them. Doubt he'll be around though since we'll have last pick.

  28. #178
    Senior Member Array title="teegre has a reputation beyond repute"> teegre's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    15,076

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I'd go Keenum over Taylor but Taylor would be a viable option - at least as a stop gap.
    There is no way that Minnesota let’s Keenum go.

    (They’ll probably trade Bradford and Bridgewater.)

  29. #179
    Senior Member Array title="teegre has a reputation beyond repute"> teegre's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Gender
    Posts
    15,076

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    I really like Tyrod. A lot of poise, good accurate arm and he obviously can run. With the right talent he could be a poor mans Russel Wilson. After watching Tom Savage suck balls tonight he reminded me of Landry Jones. Slow, no passion and had deer in headlights look. We all know Landry will lead us no where. Dobbs has a couple of years to develop and then jury is out. If Ben does retire I think Tyrod would be best choice, or AJ Mccarron. I don't see any for sure things. Mayfield ,Rudolf ,Finley, are a role of dice. Lamar Jackson would be my pick over any of them. Doubt he'll be around though since we'll have last pick.
    Oooh... McCarron. I like that idea, as well.

  30. #180
    Senior Member Array title="El-Gonzo Jackson has a reputation beyond repute"> El-Gonzo Jackson's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    7,629

    Re: Steelers Send Scouts To Watch Top QB Prospect

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Maybe some prune juice.

    QUESTION:
    If BB retires, SteelersCanada suggested signing Tyrod Taylor. Since the Bills are trying to run him out of town, it’s completely possible. And, Taylor isn’t half bad... especially if he has AB, Bell, and our O-line.
    I'd pass. The knock on Taylor is that he is conservative and doesn't try to throw the football in tight windows, but rather only if he sees the WR open. That isn't the attitude of a playoff winning QB, so if you want a guy to hold the torch a couple seasons until you find your QB (like the Bills have tried to do), then sure. IMO, he is a more athletic version of Bruce Gradkowski.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •