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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    How would this play out for the 53 at CB? Does Haden take the slot job over Gay, putting Sutton backing him up? If Gay goes to the dime, what happens to Hilton?
    Hilton is maybe ahead of Gay right now....

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    Re: Joe Haden?

    I just wonder if this will be longer than a 1 year deal which is the speculation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    I just wonder if this will be longer than a 1 year deal which is the speculation?

    I predict it will be a one year deal if he sign with us.

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    Re: Joe Haden?

    Unless the drop off in performance is explainable / reversable,

    I fear we may end up with another wasted expensive (Ladarius Green type) signing.



    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaDan View Post
    Mel Blount and Rod Woodson have better career numbers too - should they be brought in?

    Past results are no guarantee of future performance but more recent numbers usually are a better gauge of current value than peak numbers

    As Mojouw posted above, PFF is no fan of the current level of Haden's play.

    PFF ran this story before this year's draft - would you pay Haden's current salary given his performance the past two seasons?

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...b-in-the-draft


    • Haden was tied for sixth in the NFL for most touchdowns given up (six) last season.
    • Haden also allowed the 12th-most yards per coverage snap at 1.48.
    • 10 missed tackles in 2016 were the highest total in his career

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I predict it will be a one year deal if he sign with us.
    Most likely, but the Steelers must think about trying to get it to 2 years.

    Would Joe Haden even want a 1 year deal with his injury issues plus age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Hilton is maybe ahead of Gay right now....
    Maybe. I'm not so sure in the minds of the coaches though. Hilton has played well this preseason, but has he surpassed Gay's history with the team? In other words, Gay we know, Hilton we know in preseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Most likely, but the Steelers must think about trying to get it to 2 years.

    Would Joe Haden even want a 1 year deal with his injury issues plus age?

    Its value is not at its highest right now, so I think he could accept a one year deal and if he has a very good season with us he could have a big deal afterwards with another team

    We will see

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Its value is not at its highest right now, so I think he could accept a one year deal and if he has a very good season with us he could have a big deal afterwards with another team

    We will see

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    Forget that!

    Ok that's a little too expensive, really bringing the risk up

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    Re: Joe Haden?

    holy shit.

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    Well, damn...I didn't expect them to actually land him, let alone so quickly

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    Re: Joe Haden?

    Well. Damn. Usually I am not at a loss but this one has me kinda confused.

    1. That's a lot of money.
    2. But I guessed 6-7 million on a one year deal. So 9 Million per year over 3 years...I guess that's in line.
    3. Haden is a bargain if they get the Haden from like 4 years ago.
    4. If anyone knows Haden well, its the Steelers. Been one of the only 3 Browns worth scouting his entire career. Plus if AB says you're good at CB -- you're good at CB.
    5. Maybe Tomlin and the Steelers can stop sending thirsty messages to every CB in the league now...

    Now if they could just pull a safety out of their ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Well. Damn. Usually I am not at a loss but this one has me kinda confused.

    1. That's a lot of money.
    2. But I guessed 6-7 million on a one year deal. So 9 Million per year over 3 years...I guess that's in line.
    3. Haden is a bargain if they get the Haden from like 4 years ago.
    4. If anyone knows Haden well, its the Steelers. Been one of the only 3 Browns worth scouting his entire career. Plus if AB says you're good at CB -- you're good at CB.
    5. Maybe Tomlin and the Steelers can stop sending thirsty messages to every CB in the league now...

    Now if they could just pull a safety out of their ass.
    TJ Ward is on the block. I'm not so sure we could even pull it off, but it would mean cutting Mitchell(not gonna happen) and moving Davis to free so that Ward could play his natural position. Probably asking to much, but damn Ward has always been a thumper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 43Hitman View Post
    TJ Ward is on the block. I'm not so sure we could even pull it off, but it would mean cutting Mitchell(not gonna happen) and moving Davis to free so that Ward could play his natural position. Probably asking to much, but damn Ward has always been a thumper.
    I'm not a fan of that move. Ward is a thumper, but this team doesn't need a box safety. They need a cover safety. Ward isn't that guy.

    But he can lay the smack on people...

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    The browns are paying 4 million of that $7 million on the first year. Just saw it on Steelers Depot. What a time to be alive, looks like were putting all the chips in for #7. Im going to consider this a 1 year deal given how little the steelers are paying him for Year 1. If he continues to be injury prone and perform poorly we can cut him loose without much grievance. If McDonald and Haden play to their potential....boy oh boy will it have been a great 2 days for Steeler nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    The browns are paying 4 million of that $7 million on the first year. Just saw it on Steelers Depot. What a time to be alive, looks like were putting all the chips in for #7. Im going to consider this a 1 year deal given how little the steelers are paying him for Year 1. If he continues to be injury prone and perform poorly we can cut him loose without much grievance. If McDonald and Haden play to their potential....boy oh boy will it have been a great 2 days for Steeler nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I'm not a fan of that move. Ward is a thumper, but this team doesn't need a box safety. They need a cover safety. Ward isn't that guy.

    But he can lay the smack on people...
    Me either, but it was the only feasible thing I could see happening. Besides that, if we start adding too many new variables to this defense/team and it could upset the chemistry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    There is a lot to like for Haden in the Burgh.

    1. Can stick it to Cleveland twice, starting week one.
    2. College teammates in Pouncey and Gilbert
    3. Last but not least, can join a championship contender with a CB spot open.
    4. Most importantly.....he won't have to guard Antonio Brown twice a year!

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    2016-17 Joe Haden Highlights. I dunno but the guy looks like he's still got it to me. I'm thinking Haden will take over the #2 CB duties. Whilst Artie will still be tasked as the #1.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og4S9pBRmqM

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    Re: Joe Haden?

    Quote Originally Posted by BurghBoy412 View Post
    2016-17 Joe Haden Highlights. I dunno but the guy looks like he's still got it to me.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og4S9pBRmqM
    Alot of picks against Bert Flaccid in that highlight reel



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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Alot of picks against Bert Flaccid in that highlight reel
    I love how he plays the out routes. Tommie Boy loves him some out routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    4. Most importantly.....he won't have to guard Antonio Brown twice a year!
    He'll just have to guard him in practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghBoy412 View Post
    2016-17 Joe Haden Highlights. I dunno but the guy looks like he's still got it to me. I'm thinking Haden will take over the #2 CB duties. Whilst Artie will still be tasked as the #1.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og4S9pBRmqM
    Which means that Haden could take the #1 WR with help from a double team and Burns can take the #2 one-on-one...

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