Matthews had more than 100 targets each year.
Coates had almost the same number of yards that Antonio Brown after 5 weeks last year but his season was ruined because of an injury.
He had made an big play (40 yards or more)in each of his first 5 games.
I have not watched hours of film on Trumaine Johnson. However, what I can do is click all the links that are posted here and the dozens that come up when you Google about any NFL player.
The consistent opinion of those that have watched hours of film on Johnson is that he is a "bend but don't break corner", "inconsistent from game to game", not worth top $, struggles a bit in man coverage, gives up some big plays, etc etc etc.
Johnson is a good CB - in fact he is a darn good one. He is not so much better than the current starters that he would be worth multiple draft picks/players and the chance to wreck the entire salary structure of the roster.
But again, that is just my opinion. It does not have to be shared by everyone - nor does it mean I have to trash anyone else.
I'm looking for anyway possible to trade or get a draft pick for Coates.Originally Posted by BurghBoy412;597504Not really. [B
I would trade Coates only if it's against a TE, CB or position of need
Otherwise the steelers would have no more than a fifth round draft pick for Coates
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The steelers need a deep threat in their offense, if Bryant is injured or suspended, at least the steelers would have Coates if he is still with the steelers.
IMO the Bills won the series of trades they made here is why
Additions
WR Jordan Mathews -consistent 800-900 yards a season and perhaps more importantly he is active on Sundays
CB E.J.Gaines- solid but under rated cover corner who excels in man coverage
Subtractions
Sammy Watkins - all world ability but off the field as often as on it , top 10 money so fairly expensive vs everyone else in this discussion ( less productive on average than Mathews )
Ronald Dardy -good corner no question but Gaines has as much ability IMO
each player the Bills received makes less money than those they gave away that is a Plus for the Bills
they got what I believe time will prove to be a push at CB and perhaps slight advantage at WR because Watkins has not proved to be reliable due to injury
here is the real kicker ... Bills also get a 2nd and 3rd round pick in the 2018 draft while giving up just a 6th ..
so in summery they do not lose much if anything in terms of talent , they are paying out less $ and they gained a couple of nice picks in next years draft ...I fail to see how that is not a great deal for them
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you still need to come up with 17 million dollars
Problem is the rest of their roster is absolute hot garbage. Currently they are starting Shamarko at SS.
http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NYJ
Other than Wilkerson, who would you even want back in a trade?
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Bills won both of those trades on paper. Even if Watkins returns to health and dominates (which he won't because even if he is healthy - Jared Goff still exists) - that's not much lost by the Bills because they are never going to throw the ball a ton anyways.
I'm not sure I want to be ready for the Bills to start making good decisions again. Amazing what happens when you get rid of the Ryan brothers.
Seriously, the Jets can be this year the worst team since the 2008 Detroit Lions and we've seen some awful teams in that time like the 2009 Rams or last year Browns.
If Shamarko is an starter, this is the bottom of the barrel.Remember the preseason game against the Bills in 2015!
For this Montana alum and die hard Steelers fan - this would be a dream come Tru. Used to play Intramural softball with Trumaine. Good dude and a hell of a talent. GoGriz
draft picks ! as they will almost certainly be selecting top 3 ( probably 1st over all )
so any pick you get from them will be like a late pick from the prior round ....
a 5th would be like a late 4 ...
a 4 a late 3 etc ...
send them ( let them pick 3 ) Severin , Ayers , DHB , Hamilton , Coates .... for a 3rd round pick most of those wont make our roster anyways and no guarantees any of them do ..( Coates aside )
sure they can wait till cut downs and get some guys but that don't give them time to acclimate them to the system and playbook ... there is value in trading them now ( or should be anyways )
He runs just as good a go route as Coates does and he catches just about as good right now. Unless Coates steps it up, there's no reason to keep him if they could trade him for a player that is going to contribute.
It will be interesting to see if a move is made.
a correction to an earlier post here not gonna look to see who posted it but Shamarko Thomas looks to be 3rd on the depth chart
Jets = Steelers North
McClendon
Beachum
W.Johnson
Sharknado
Todman
Oops. Another depth chart I saw from a Non-Jets site had Sharknado listed as the #1.
Still, that is not a good roster.