You're right. I have very poorly and snarkily attempted to make my point. That was wrong.
My central argument was that regardless of Lebesu's distinguished playing career AND his record as the Steelers DC, the tactics he developed, implemented, and refined during his time with the Bengals alone should've been enough to open the doors to Canton.
As has been pointed out by others and yourself, this was not the case and my comments were far too pointed.
Leaving all that aside, Dick Lebeau was still one of the best defensive coaches in the history of the league. Clearly that is an opinion open to debate, but gonna stock by that part.
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Since he had not been retired from coaching for 5 years he could not be inducted as a coach
But his coaching career was the tipping point for his induction as a senior's committee player unless the assumption is it was only a matter of time for a player who was not inducted in the 25 years after his retirement in 1972 to be inducted by the seniors committee
For example, Donnie Shell had more Pro Bowl appearances (5 to 3) and first team All Pro seasons (3 to 0) than LeBeau but IMO will never be inducted
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/ShelDo00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...L/LeBeDi00.htm
John Clayton wrote about the case for LeBeau in 2009
LeBeau's case for the Hall of Fame involves decades of great defensive play calling along with the creation of the zone defensive scheme to counter West Coast offenses. As a player, he had 62 interceptions but didn't make the Hall of Fame.
http://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playoffs2...ohn&id=3852939
And the lobbying by his players certainly helped to remind committee members about him when he was selected in 2010
LeBeau's 38-season career as an NFL head and assistant coach wasn't supposed to factor into his candidacy — only his 14 playing seasons — but the key members of the LeBeau-coached defense that helped the Steelers win the Super Bowl twice in the last five seasons didn't care. To them, a football hall of fame that excluded LeBeau wasn't a true hall of fame.
So the players began wearing replica LeBeau No. 44 Lions jerseys to functions such as the Hall of Fame game in Canton, Ohio, and to road games where they felt their influence might be felt.
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...eau-hall_N.htm
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Thanks - enjoyed the back and forth with Mojouw
There will never be an assistant coach who gets into the HOF as a coach. Ever.
Those who have blasphemed one of my Steelers' boyfriends in Coach Dick LeBeau will rue the day. Rue the day, I say!