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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Brandt had lots of entertaining stories when he was on Sirius NFL Network a few years ago. I think all of the cowboy picks are evidence of dementia.
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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Still butthurt over SB X and XIII, obviously...

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Bettis does deserve top 20, IMO. Good call.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Uh, yeah. Zeke in the list and no Franco.




    This was Franco's middle finger to Hollywood Henderson and now to Gil Brandt.



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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    So running behind probably the best oline in football and all of a sudden you are the 26th best RB in the NFL. Not buying it. If Zeke was not a Cowgirl, he wouldn't be gettting all the hype he has gotten since he was drafted (part of that of course is he probably doesn't even lead the league in rushing on another team)

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    Also Barry Sanders at no. 8 is laughably low

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Three yards and out of bounds Franco.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by BostonBlackie View Post
    Three yards and out of bounds Franco.
    You're thinking of Jim Nance.

    Did you get that pencil thin mustache from Brady? Got milk?

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    After one year??? That's asinine.


    You'd have to put CJ2K on that list, as well then.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Elliott is on the list? Lol.


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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    You're thinking of Jim Nance.
    Nance wasn't that smart.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    I'm glad to see OJ so high on this list. He murdered defenses. His cuts were deadly. He knifed through holes. Uh... hmm... double homicide.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I'm glad to see OJ so high on this list. He murdered defenses. His cuts were deadly. He knifed through holes. Uh... hmm... double homicide.



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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    He's just waiting to put Franco on his fullback list.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    After one year??? That's asinine.


    You'd have to put CJ2K on that list, as well then.
    I agree.

    IMO, ranking any running back on that list after one year completely discredits the list.

    Le'veon Bell is an awesome player, but if someone rated him as one of the top 3 RB of all time, it would be a joke. It's an entire body of work compiled over a career.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Toward the end of his career, yes Franco ran out of bounds all the time to avoid hits. He could have stayed another year or two with the Steelers and broke Jim Brown's rushing record, but he went to Seattle instead.

    I watched them both and Franco >> Bettis.

    Franco was SB MVP and picked up the Immaculate Reception. Bettis almost fumbled away ring #5.
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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by ALLD View Post
    Franco was SB MVP and picked up the Immaculate Reception. Bettis almost fumbled away ring #5.
    Yeah, but Ben saved the day, so it's all good.

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    I always find these types of discussions interesting. Mainly because it's so difficult to really compare them. An average NFL RB today would destroy most defenses forty years ago because so much has changed in conditioning, body-size, diet, speed, etcetera. I don't remember if it on this site or the previous one, but somewhere I have a thread detailing speeds of athletes since the 60s (I think it was then) and the difference was tremendous. The same is true for size. Think about it. Today, we have lineman who are running as fast as RBs did back then (Franco, for instance, ran a 5.1+, although that was admittedly later in his career) at 75 to 80 pounds heavier.

    So, put side by side, most of yesteryear's RBs wouldn't make it on a list like this. I think a better comparison would be a list of RBs based on their domination of the game when they played. That, to me, is a better comparison.


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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Joe Greene said they never won anything before Franco got there. Franco was the missing piece. After that, Bradshaw gradually got better and Rocky was able to be a great partner in the backfield.



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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    After one year??? That's asinine.


    You'd have to put CJ2K on that list, as well then.
    this ....

    when putting together a " greatest list " you sure as hell need a larger body of work ....

    greatness is something that is achieved over time not in a flash ...............

    he could be footballs 1 hit wonder and last I checked 1 hit wonders do not make it into the rock n roll hall of fame and the pro football HoF has far higher standards ..

    see Bo Jackson



    as a side note IMO that list sucks in many ways , several guys far to low and several far to high

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Jim Brown = overrated.


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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Yep we all know that Brantd is a Dallas homer and, has always had a Steeler bias.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Jim Brown = overrated.
    Are you being serious?

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Jim Brown = overrated.
    Closest player to Jim Brown I have ever seen live was Earl Campbell and he was the best RB of a generation. Brown was still better.
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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Jim Brown = overrated.
    Lol...

    So was Montana! And Rice! And Unitas! And LT! And Reggie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    I always find these types of discussions interesting. Mainly because it's so difficult to really compare them. An average NFL RB today would destroy most defenses forty years ago because so much has changed in conditioning, body-size, diet, speed, etcetera. I don't remember if it on this site or the previous one, but somewhere I have a thread detailing speeds of athletes since the 60s (I think it was then) and the difference was tremendous. The same is true for size. Think about it. Today, we have lineman who are running as fast as RBs did back then (Franco, for instance, ran a 5.1+, although that was admittedly later in his career) at 75 to 80 pounds heavier.

    So, put side by side, most of yesteryear's RBs wouldn't make it on a list like this. I think a better comparison would be a list of RBs based on their domination of the game when they played. That, to me, is a better comparison.
    Yeah guys from 40 years ago where selling insurance in the offseason.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    We had players from Miami's 17-0 team selling mobile homes and cars in the offseason. I remember when Larry Csonka got a new contract that paid him $50k per season and that was big money in those days. You could buy a brand new Camaro for $6k and a new house was $20k.
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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Are you being serious?
    Not really...HOWEVER...

    Really anyone you put behind Cleveland's O-Line during that era excelled at HB/FB. Very similar to what has gone on in Dallas the last few seasons.

    Fred Morrison, Preston Carpenter, Bobby Mitchell, Leroy Kelly...all put up Brown-sequel numbers behind that Browns O-Line.

    I forget where I saw it but there have been a few articles on it in the past.


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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    For me Walter Payton is the best RB ever.

    Barry Sanders is 2nd.

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    Re: Bettis Ranks 18th On Gil Brandt’s All-Time Running Back List; Franco Snubbed

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    For me Walter Payton is the best RB ever.

    Barry Sanders is 2nd.
    Clearly you never saw Jim Brown run.



    Mt. Rushmore

    Coach: Bill Belichick
    QB: Tom Brady
    Running Back: Jim Brown
    Defender: Lawrence Taylor

    I'd put up a receiver but Rushmore only has 4 faces on it.
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