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    The pats just keep getting better and better with the addition of Stephon Gilmore I know the steelers are never big spenders but it's disappointing watching a superior team (one that will cause us to not make the super bowl again) get better while we sit on our hands, but I'm in not in the front office Colbert and Tonkin know better than all of us all i we can do is watch.


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    Re: Pats

    Rarely does the team that wins the off-season also win the SB.

    Gilmore is an interesting signing. They seemingly had an equivalent or maybe better player in Ryan. They chose Gilmore over Ryan. Wonder what that means? Maybe nothing. But it does mean that they treaded water at the DB position group. Gilmore replaces Ryan. Hard to play much better than Ryan did last season.

    Now it appears the Steelers are interested in Ryan. When Bellicheck let's a guy walk away AND signs a high dollar replacement - makes me nervous.

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    Re: Pats

    Sorry, but how many threads do we need about wanting to emulate the Cheaters?

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    Spending big in free agency is not the Steelers way. They have been one of the most successful teams while never making big splashes

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    We aren't going to beat many teams scoring 18 and 17 points in the playoffs and 9 points in three quarters, let alone the Patriots.

    Stephon Gilmore and Logan Ryan isn't going to do that.

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    Re: Pats

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    We aren't going to beat many teams scoring 18 and 17 points in the playoffs and 9 points in three quarters, let alone the Patriots.

    Stephon Gilmore and Logan Ryan isn't going to do that.
    3 dropped touchdowns and no Leveon Bell will do that to ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Rarely does the team that wins the off-season also win the SB.

    Gilmore is an interesting signing. They seemingly had an equivalent or maybe better player in Ryan. They chose Gilmore over Ryan. Wonder what that means? Maybe nothing. But it does mean that they treaded water at the DB position group. Gilmore replaces Ryan. Hard to play much better than Ryan did last season.

    Now it appears the Steelers are interested in Ryan. When Bellicheck let's a guy walk away AND signs a high dollar replacement - makes me nervous.
    Well the patriots also have like $60 million + in cap space so if you can replace a good corner with an All-Pro, its not like you're giving up much

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    Sorry, but how many threads do we need about wanting to emulate the Cheaters?
    about a hundred until we figure out how to actually beat them
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    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Pats

    Point is the Pats have so far swapped equivalent players. While it can be argued that Gilmore and Allen are better than Ryan and Bennett - I don't think it is a massive upgrade. Might be just maintaiming status quo


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Point is the Pats have so far swapped equivalent players. While it can be argued that Gilmore and Allen are better than Ryan and Bennett - I don't think it is a massive upgrade. Might be just maintaiming status quo


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    Bennett, IMO, is way better than Allen and Gilmore is slightly better than Ryan. Allen is way over rated and injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Bennett, IMO, is way better than Allen and Gilmore is slightly better than Ryan. Allen is way over rated and injury prone.
    I would agree with that. I think all the hand wringing and pearl clutching about NE is a bit overblown right now.

    They add Brandon Cooks to that offense though...then I'll sit up and take notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by salamander View Post
    Sorry, but how many threads do we need about wanting to emulate the Cheaters?
    As many as possible, CUZ DERE DA BESSED EVUUURRR!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by salamander View Post
    Sorry, but how many threads do we need about wanting to emulate the Cheaters?
    If posters want to vent about the Pats go for it - but it should go in the NFL section and not here

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    Team chemistry is important too. Steelers have been one of the most successful teams in the NFL without throwing a bunch of money at other teams players. Their success has been building through the draft, re-signing their own players, and supplementing that with a few lower profile cheaper free agents sprinkled here and there. Throwing a lot of money towards a bunch of other teams' high profile players has had a low success rate in the NFL. The Redskins did this for a long time and it got them nowhere. Jaguars have been doing this for the past few years and it hasn't helped them rise out of the NFL basement. The Steelers are fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by salamander View Post
    Sorry, but how many threads do we need about wanting to emulate the Cheaters?
    I agree, and as much as I hate that team/players/coach, etc., gotta admit they just about OUT COACH and out play every team they play....including us !

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    Re: Pats

    I want us to win the Superbowl next year and the Patriots are arguably the biggest obstacle.

    So while I most enjoy reading Steelers news, beyond that, I cannot think of anything that is more interesting to me than discussing / analyzing the Pats.
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    Re: Pats

    The Patriots are also the one team that we always have a problem beating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose View Post
    I agree, and as much as I hate that team/players/coach, etc., gotta admit they just about OUT COACH and out play every team they play....including us !
    Which pisses me off even more - I'm tired of watching my team get their asses kicked by those douchebags. I really wish we could find a '70s Steelers-style pass rush against them, because that's the ONLY way to beat Brady. Hell, he never even gets his damn jersey dirty against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Which pisses me off even more - I'm tired of watching my team get their asses kicked by those douchebags. I really wish we could find a '70s Steelers-style pass rush against them, because that's the ONLY way to beat Brady. Hell, he never even gets his damn jersey dirty against us.
    Agreed.

    Or score 35 points.
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    I dislike the Pats but honestly they do what's needed to stay competitive, the Steelers for the most part have been competitive as well since 2004 but the differance seems to be consistency. The Steelers are very inconsistent, they are often outcoached, Ben has been bad on the road, the team lacks a pass rush as often as they are stout and the secondary is as soft as melted butter but all of this on occasion. The Steelers have a great team but struggle to put it all together and do it on a week to week basis and they really prevents theme from going all the way.

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    Re: Pats

    The biggest reason for the damn cheats success is the cheating and favoritism they receive from the league. That being said it is not entirely the reason we lost to them last year in the playoffs. We lost because our coaches played right into their strengths. Dropping your best pass rushers into coverage many times during the game. The very 1st defensive play James dropped into coverage and we rushed 3 linemen. It was a complete JOKE and I knew we were not there to win that game. If you want to beat this team do what you did to beat other teams (while this may not work it's the best path to success), play aggressive and don't buy into the hype.

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    Pats have money because their QB takes a paycut(because his wife makes millions also). They have/had a lot of cap space

    Pittsburgh just re-signed their star WR to an extension, and franchised tagged their star RB. That's a good free agency.
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    Kony Ealy and Brandin Cooks? Jeez...ridiculous.

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    I remember the patriots were reported earlier trying to straight up trade Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks...and now the patriots still have Malcolm Butler. Not to mention they'll probably end up getting a 1st rounder and another early round pick AT LEAST from the browns by unloading Jimmy Garoppolo.

    Rowe quietly played well for them after they traded for him. Malcolm Butler, Stephon Gillmore, Eric Rowe, Devin McCourty...thats the type of secondary that can neutralize damn near anyone including us. We need to make moves
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    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    I remember the patriots were reported earlier trying to straight up trade Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks...and now the patriots still have Malcolm Butler. Not to mention they'll probably end up getting a 1st rounder and another early round pick AT LEAST from the browns by unloading Jimmy Garoppolo.

    Rowe quietly played well for them after they traded for him. Malcolm Butler, Stephon Gillmore, Eric Rowe, Devin McCourty...thats the type of secondary that can neutralize damn near anyone including us. We need to make moves
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    Re: Pats

    Can someone call Colbert and Tomlin and let them know that free agency has started? I know Landry Jones is a HUGE signing, but maybe they should consider trying to improve their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrapinstation View Post
    Can someone call Colbert and Tomlin and let them know that free agency has started? I know Landry Jones is a HUGE signing, but maybe they should consider trying to improve their team.
    Who would you like them to get and how much would you like them to pay??? I mean really, they have already made the biggest FA move that they are going to by tagging Bell. And you know for sure that they aren't working on some things....that hopefully won't break the bank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    Who would you like them to get and how much would you like them to pay??? I mean really, they have already made the biggest FA move that they are going to by tagging Bell. And you know for sure that they aren't working on some things....that hopefully won't break the bank?
    i feel ok about Vince Williams taking over for Timmons, but getting Zach Brown would be a huge upgrade. His market value is around $4.5 million a season. Thats a mega bargain for a 2nd team All-Pro. Basically we'd be getting a young, quality ILB who's good at everything.

    Marcus Cooper is another. Good big, young cornerback who is scheme versatile. Can play inside and outside. Pro bowl alternate. We've chased after 2 cornerbacks worth $10 million a season. Essentially it looks like were willing to spend a nose under that and Cooper looks like he can be had for just that.

    Connor Barwin has had a really productive career as an OLB. Only reason he had a down year is because he was moved to DE, and the eagles run a wide 9 scheme so he was playing completely out of position. Sounds like he's a real team player, he offered to take a pay cut to stay in Philly and he didnt bitch about his position switch. He's had a healthy career, last time he missed any games was 7 seasons ago. He is 30, but he's healthy and hasnt been slowing down so why not give him a go for 2-3 seasons? His down year due to position switch should bring his pricetag down. Having an OLB platoon of James Harrison, Bud Dupree, Connor Barwin, a rookie, and Anthony Chickillo will be awesome! Plus it will allow us to cut Arthur Moats and save close to $3 million against the cap (Vince Williams, Ryan Shazier, Stevenson Johnson, and Tyler Matakevich will be plenty of depth inside).

    We lost out on basically every healthy, young slot corner left. Id say its Marcus Cooper or bust there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    Who would you like them to get and how much would you like them to pay??? I mean really, they have already made the biggest FA move that they are going to by tagging Bell. And you know for sure that they aren't working on some things....that hopefully won't break the bank?
    Pay no mind to Terrapinstation. He's not here to offer any ideas or solutions. He's just here to bitch and complain, then disappear when he has nothing to complain about

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    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    Pay no mind to Terrapinstation. He's not here to offer any ideas or solutions. He's just here to bitch and complain, then disappear when he has nothing to complain about
    Bingo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrapinstation View Post
    Can someone call Colbert and Tomlin and let them know that free agency has started? I know Landry Jones is a HUGE signing, but maybe they should consider trying to improve their team.
    I called.

    They knew.

    Which is why they extended the best WR in the NFL weeks ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrapinstation View Post
    Can someone call Colbert and Tomlin and let them know that free agency has started? I know Landry Jones is a HUGE signing, but maybe they should consider trying to improve their team.
    The free agent signing is Bryant staying clean for the 2017 season

    The years the Pats were most vulnerable were 2015 and 2016 - sucks that now we have to hope Brady falls off the performance cliff like Peyton did as age gets him, but that is the breaks

    Too bad to be playing in another team's era of dominance, but shit happens - ask the 70s Raiders and Oilers about how that works

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