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    Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    For the right situation, the Steelers could be interested in signing Darrelle Revis for the 2017 season.

    Darrelle Revis could be an option for the Pittsburgh Steelers this offseason, according to Peter King of The Monday Morning Quarterback.

    This week, King said that, for the right price, the Steelers could be interested in signing Revis, who is surely looking to bounce back after a rocky 2015 campaign. Revis is a seven time Pro Bowler and four time All-Pro.

    "I wouldn’t be surprised if the perennially cornerback-needy Steelers could be interested if the price is right, or Green Bay (31st against the pass last year) or New Orleans (32nd)," King wrote. "Revis will have some suitors, to be sure, if the Jets cut him loose … if he skates on the charges in Pittsburgh, and if he still wants to devote time to be great again. Two big ifs as we sit here two weeks prior to the opening day of free agency.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    I'd say virtually zero chance. First his game is slipping, and just as important he's always been a guy who wants every last dollar. Someone out there will overpay him based on his prior level of play. It wont be the Steelers.
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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    That would be nice of the Steelers... because, Ladarius Green must be getting lonely sitting on the sidelines.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    i remember when Revis literally bitched out of his contract 3 offseasons in the span of 4 years. That shit is just unprecedented. Old, injury prone, and past his prime. There's virtually no upside to this
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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    The steelers may be in the market for a young promising corner in the draft, or a free agent corner still very much in his prime, not a washed up has-been whose best seasons are behind him

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    I beat the drum for old, over the hill James Harrison. I will not do the same for Darrelle Revis. As good as he was once, that's how unappealing he is now.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Here is the thing. Harrison looked like there was fork in his back after his sojourn in Cincinnati. Came back to the Steelers and looks pretty darn serviceable again.

    Prior to 2016 Revis made a Pro Bowl every year after his rookie year, except for the year he was hurt. As recently as 2014 he was an All-Pro. His 2015 season was pretty darn good.

    By his own admission he was out of shape and terrible last year (2016). IF Revis is motivated. IF he is cleared in the off-the-field stuff. IF he isn't going to suspended for multiple games by the league. IF he would sign a "prove" it deal for like 5-7 million dollars -- why the hell not?

    Other FA Corners the Steelers have been linked to are right there in that range.
    Munnerlyn made 4.2 million last year. He will be looking for a raise.
    Verner made 6.75 million last year. He will need to take a pay cut, but he won't be looking to do anyone any favors either.
    Amukamura is figured to start getting offers around 9-10 million on the open market.
    Bouye looking at 10-12 million.


    Revis will be 31 next season with ONE bad year on his resume. One. On a terrible team that was lacking almost everything a competent franchise needs. This is the same team that Muhammed Wilkerson, Brandon Marshall, Matt Forte, and a few other veterans all had some of their worst individual seasons for. Did they all get old and lazy at once? Possible. Or did a bunch of veteran players see a sinking ship and decide to put it on cruise control?

    Everyone bangs on the table for how each season has to be a maximum effort to get a ring prior to the end of Roethlisberger's run. How would making a below market value bet on one of the best DB's of his generation not fit that attitude?

    Now, do I want to send a ton of cash Revis' way? No. Wouldn't really be looking to guarantee much of it either. Might have a serious talk with him about how he feels about FS. Would need to get some assurances he is still into it. But who better for Burns and Cockerell to learn a few things from?

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    NO!


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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    I'll add one more thing.

    Charles Woodson was about the same age when he made the switch from boundary corner to some kind of roving weapon around the secondary and linebacker level in a 3-4 defense. He then played about 8 more seasons at a high level. Woodson was about 6' 1" and 200 lbs.

    Revis is 6' even and 205 lbs. Facing the same questions Woodson was when he went to GB and made the switch.

    Ignore the off-the-field stuff. Most recent reports make it sound like he might not have even done anything. Don't really care. On the field the situations are similar.

    Another Woodson we should all be familiar with made the switch at 34 and made an All-Pro team at 37.

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    NO!

    Goodwin is an Olympic qualifying athlete in the long-jump and an Olympic caliber sprinter.

    Yeah. He ran past Revis - but watch 21 for the Jets in the middle of the field there. Looks like he was supposed to be playing over the top help and didn't get anywhere near deep enough in his drop. When he turns to run to that side, Goodwin is already by him.

    No idea if the coverage was single, man with help, or what. It looks bad. But in 2015 opponents completed 45% of their passes against Revis - that is a pretty good number!

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    i remember when Revis literally bitched out of his contract 3 offseasons in the span of 4 years. That shit is just unprecedented. Old, injury prone, and past his prime. There's virtually no upside to this
    This 100x.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    i remember when Revis literally bitched out of his contract 3 offseasons in the span of 4 years. That shit is just unprecedented. Old, injury prone, and past his prime. There's virtually no upside to this
    I don't think that's too relevant here. If we signed him, it'd be a one-year prove-it deal for $5M or less. Because a) I don't think we (or most teams) are willing to roll the dice on a long-term deal, and b) he'll want another big contract from someone but it sure won't be us either. So I could see it working as a kind of one-year audition thing. Not holding my breath though.
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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    No thank you.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by salamander View Post
    No thank you.
    I agree. I have no interest in him and I hope that the Steelers don't either. I would rather that we continue to focus on rebuilding our secondary with young guys.
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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Here is the thing. Harrison looked like there was fork in his back after his sojourn in Cincinnati. Came back to the Steelers and looks pretty darn serviceable again.

    Prior to 2016 Revis made a Pro Bowl every year after his rookie year, except for the year he was hurt. As recently as 2014 he was an All-Pro. His 2015 season was pretty darn good.

    By his own admission he was out of shape and terrible last year (2016). IF Revis is motivated. IF he is cleared in the off-the-field stuff. IF he isn't going to suspended for multiple games by the league. IF he would sign a "prove" it deal for like 5-7 million dollars -- why the hell not?

    Other FA Corners the Steelers have been linked to are right there in that range.
    Munnerlyn made 4.2 million last year. He will be looking for a raise.
    Verner made 6.75 million last year. He will need to take a pay cut, but he won't be looking to do anyone any favors either.
    Amukamura is figured to start getting offers around 9-10 million on the open market.
    Bouye looking at 10-12 million.


    Revis will be 31 next season with ONE bad year on his resume. One. On a terrible team that was lacking almost everything a competent franchise needs. This is the same team that Muhammed Wilkerson, Brandon Marshall, Matt Forte, and a few other veterans all had some of their worst individual seasons for. Did they all get old and lazy at once? Possible. Or did a bunch of veteran players see a sinking ship and decide to put it on cruise control?

    Everyone bangs on the table for how each season has to be a maximum effort to get a ring prior to the end of Roethlisberger's run. How would making a below market value bet on one of the best DB's of his generation not fit that attitude?

    Now, do I want to send a ton of cash Revis' way? No. Wouldn't really be looking to guarantee much of it either. Might have a serious talk with him about how he feels about FS. Would need to get some assurances he is still into it. But who better for Burns and Cockerell to learn a few things from?
    Nice argument and all good points. Bring him in for a conversation, and see what everyone is thinking. If he leaves without a contract, the price/risk is too high. If he gets signed to a 1 year deal, maybe we both make out like bandits. Steelers get the ball hawker we need, and Revis finally gets his ring. I think we can all live with that. Worked for the Saints when they signed the rapist.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Revis has lost a few steps and, we don't need aging players in the secondary. James Harrison is the exception to this rule. Build through the draft is the best way to go.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Nice argument and all good points. Bring him in for a conversation, and see what everyone is thinking. If he leaves without a contract, the price/risk is too high. If he gets signed to a 1 year deal, maybe we both make out like bandits. Steelers get the ball hawker we need, and Revis finally gets his ring. I think we can all live with that. Worked for the Saints when they signed the rapist.
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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Brees is still QB for the Saints...
    Flew right over my head that time.....

    The Saints brought in Darren Sharper as a ball hawking safety to captain the secondary. Saints won the SB. 'Could' consider bringing Revis in as a ball hawking safety and secondary captain, not as a CB. Just a thought. Even diminished, he still has ball skills.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    ill admit that i havent thought the safety switch through. in that kind of scenario, im actually kind of curious. Anytime the defense has a down game, Mitchell is without fail always one of the main culprits. Revis has been a complete player throughout his career, but not sure quite how much of a thumper he would be as a safety. When we have Sean Davis though, that doesnt seem to be much of a problem. Revis could potentially be a crazy center fielder. Mitchell will also carry a cap hit over $8 million per season for this upcoming season and the next one. Do we really want to pay that much for a weak link on the defense? We'll save $6.3 million and $3.1 million respectively in the upcoming 2 offseasons if we cut him before June 1st.

    Add to the fact that we have an extra early round draft pick and safety could still be one of the BPA's in those early rounds. If we get a guy like Budda Baker who could easily plug and play, id cut Mitchell out of here. Hell, even then we wouldnt necessarily even need to play a rookie safety much if we sign a guy like Revis. Could save us money AND make the defense more effective. This all sounds way too elaborate for the Steelers to do, sounds more like something Belichick would be cool with

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    I think I've indicated I would be on board with it. I do not think it is going to happen. Just doesn't fit the Steelers way of doing things. But it is exactly the kind of thing the Patriots do and then everyone scratches their heads and acts confused as to how they keep winning stuff. Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Blount, and many others all showed up on a Patriots roster with a variety of performance questions marks and all took less than expected. All were used for a period of time and then let go when they either actually did physically break-down or rehabbed their value to a point that the Pats were not willing to pay for.

    I agree that you build the core of your roster through the draft. Only way to get cost effective high end talent. But you have to supplement. Especially because draft picks usually take 1-2 seasons before they can really consistently impact a game.

    The more I think about a 2017 version of Revis (and here I am assuming he is more like the 2015 version than the 2016 version) - the more I like the idea for the right price.

    1. He is pissed off and his wounded pride makes him train like a monster this off-season and he comes in and just locks down a side of the field opposite Burns. Doubtful, but possible.
    2. It becomes clear he is done as a CB. Fine. Make him a FS/Rover like Reed and the Woodsons.
    3. #2 becomes even more attractive if you consider the other "outside the box" ideas that come off it. Such as:
    - Mitchell drops down to the LB level and takes on a Duane Buchannon role alongside Shazier. In this scenario Timmons is not resigned.
    - Do the above with Davis. Maybe bad for his development? Again, Timmons not resigned.
    - Keep Mitchell and Davis at their spots. Resign Timmons. Your nickel formation is Burns, Cockerell, Revis, Davis, and Mitchell. Essentially an improved version of the "big nickel" they have played in the past with an extra safety.

    I don't know. You can keep going from there. But assuming that Revis is not just suddenly awful. Assuming he would be wiling to make a position switch. And Assuming he plays for like $6 million. I really start liking the idea.

    Never gonna happen though.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Not a chance the Steelers sign Revis..... And even if they did he'd ride the bench anyway.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    They only trade for player who ride the bench, so we lose draft picks for nothing, losing just money for a player to ride the bench is not our style!

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    @Mojouw all of your posts in this thread are winners!

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Well, darrelle revis is going to be released

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    It's just pure speculation from Pete King, nothing more

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    A once legendary player that milked every cent out of every team and contract he was ever involved in. A player that looks like he aged five years overnight, has had injury problems, and tends to get arrested from time to time and currently has charges against him. A guy that has gone wherever the most money is, and doesn't seem to care at all if the team he goes to ever wins.

    That doesn't sound like a Steelers player to me.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    If not Revis, then who? My thing on this subject is not the older, diminished CB angle. I'm looking at this from getting a true centerfielder safety that needs to rescue his legacy. I keep bringing this up but I feel it is a legitimate argument for consideration. The 2009 Saints won the SB with next to no pass rush, but had a centerfield veteran safety that directed that defense to record setting takeaways. And they beat 3 HoF QBs in the playoffs in Warner, Favre, and Manning. I know we have to improve our pass rush, just pointing out the role Revis(feel free to insert another name) could play and be a significant piece to our next championship. He's worth bringing in for a talk, IMO.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Like the Steelers have never paid top $$$ to guys. AB, Ben, now Bell, Harrison, Woodley, Polamalu, Ward, Faneca, Timmons etc. all got paid at the top end of their positions when their play warranted it in order to prevent them from bolting in FA.

    If Revis can still be even the 2015 version of himself, he would instantly be the best DB on the roster. How much is that worth? Don't know.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Like the Steelers have never paid top $$$ to guys. AB, Ben, now Bell, Harrison, Woodley, Polamalu, Ward, Faneca, Timmons etc. all got paid at the top end of their positions when their play warranted it in order to prevent them from bolting in FA.

    If Revis can still be even the 2015 version of himself, he would instantly be the best DB on the roster. How much is that worth? Don't know.
    But I did not remember the last time the steelers paid a big contract to a player who was not with the steelers before the signing.

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    Re: Peter King: Steelers could be interested in Darrelle Revis

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    But I did not remember the last time the steelers paid a big contract to a player who was not with the steelers before the signing.
    Good point! Looks like they are trying to get Bell's deal done so they can pay someone - http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/03...rted-interest/

    I doubt they would do it, but Gilmore might look really good across from Burns!

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