Last edited by BlackAndGold; 02-24-2017 at 05:14 PM.
1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
amazing. for once we catch a break. a lot of it must have to do with Antwon Blake, Sean Spence, and Mclendon actually ending up playing a lot of snaps. Thanks guys! Especially Blake...you finally did something good for once
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This is a game changer. Also important to note folks, compensatory draft picks can be TRADED now after the nfl owners agreed to it. We might trade up for somebody we really fall in love with. Who knows...
Cincy, CLeveland, and KC got a ton of these shiny new tradeable picks.
Maybe more movement than ever in this draft?
My prediction is that IF this makes more trades, the NFL starts handing more out -- trades will juice the TV ratings!
Pleasant surprise, Let me guess
"DA STEALERS PAYED DA LEEG"
They can take care of all their needs in the first 100 picks. OLB(double dip?), TE, CB, QB(doubt it)??
1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
I think it has more to do with the contract than playing time...no?
And just in case anyone forgot, these picks can now be traded. So if they want to move up, they have the ammo.
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1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh
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I like that it opens up what we do at 30 even more. With a 2nd and 2 3rds, we can double dip any position and get 1st round talent. This is nice, real nice.
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If Nathan Peterman were still on the board when that picks comes up that would be the ideal time to go get your potential qb of the future!
"A man's got to know his limitations."
cool, let's hope we pick someone a little better than Dri Archer this time...
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I like Peterman. If we did draft a QB this draft, I would get Peterman or Kelly.
since comp picks are now tradeable maybe we can use it to trade up for a player like Ricardo Colclough or Shamarko Thomas
or for a player like Troy Polamalu!since comp picks are now tradeable maybe we can use it to trade up for a player like Ricardo Colclough or Shamarko Thomas
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We need another Vince Williams.
All Defense!
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A 1st and 3rd to Cleveland for Myles Garrett.
i think it would be interesting to discuss who these hypothetical players we might trade up for could be. i think david njoku is a prime candidate. Remember that Colbert always talks about how he picks out about a dozen cant miss prospects that they know are going to be superstars. If Njoku ends up being one of those guys, who knows.
these options sound way unlikely, but if S Jamal Adams or S Malik Hooker started slipping into the mid teens how crazy would it be if we traded up and snagged one of them? Keep in mind that Bud Dupree and David Decastro were supposed to be Top 10 picks. Hell, even Jarvis Jones was supposed to be a possible top 10 pick before he ran a shitty 40 time. Its possible. DT Shariff Floyd on the vikings was supposed to be a lock for top 5 selection and he went all the way down to 23 for no apparent reason at all.
Patrick Mahomes? OJ Howard?
A lot of the guys we could potentially trade up for might not even take a 3rd round pick to trade up for. Could be less
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I like Peterman also, but if there are better QB's in next years draft, I'd wait until then for Ben's replacement.
There are.
2018's crop is significantly better:
-Josh Rosen, UCLA
-Luke Falk, Washington St.
-Sam Darnold, USC
-Jake Browning, Washington
-Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Since we acquired an addition pick (105), I'd trade the 62nd pick for another team's R1 pick in 2018 (to use for acquiring one of those QBs).
That said, maybe we just sit tight and take Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma) at 32... because, he very well may be the best passer of the bunch (72% completion percentage). If he is so good, why would he still be there at the end of R1?? He's got Drew Brees disease (short).
I like Peterman, I think he will be really good
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My concern is Mayfield comes from the same system that produced Sam Bradford and Landry Jones. Not sure how I feel about that. I think Peterman and Kelly will be successful from this draft. Plus, both should be there after we get our OLB and DB. Both may still be there round 4.There are.
2018's crop is significantly better:
-Josh Rosen, UCLA
-Luke Falk, Washington St.
-Sam Darnold, USC
-Jake Browning, Washington
-Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Since we acquired an addition pick (105), I'd trade the 62nd pick for another team's R1 pick in 2018 (to use for acquiring one of those QBs).
That said, maybe we just sit tight and take Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma) at 32... because, he very well may be the best passer of the bunch (72% completion percentage). If he is so good, why would he still be there at the end of R1?? He's got Drew Brees disease (short).
Here is the thing about QB's in next year's draft. It is next year. No one knows what could happen. Injury. Off the field stuff. Turns out they all stink.
This year's class is here. They are about as known quantities as one can get. The strength (if you can call it that) of this year's QB class is in the later rounds.
I hope the Steelers don't waste the extra 3rd round pick on a RB.
Hater = Realist
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Keep Haley's ass out of the draft war room
Here is the thing about the draft: it's an inexact science.
Montana goes in R3.
Prescott goes in R4.
Brady goes in R6.
Warner goes undrafted.
Meanwhile...
Tim Couch goes #1 overall.
Jemarcus Russell goes #1 overall.
Ryan Leaf goes #2 overall.
Sure, the Steelers might get lucky, and Nate Peterman and/or Chad Kelly end up being the steals of the draft. Or... they join the Tee Martins, Matt Barkleys, and Landry Joneses of the world.
My point is this: waiting until next year might be a better option.
Again, sure any of the QBs that I listed could fail (and history indicates that two-thirds of them will indeed fail), but IMO next year's crop is indeed better than this year's crop of QBs. Simply, the last time that I felt anywhere near this good about a QB crop was 2004.
(NOTE: Do not get me wrong; none of these guys reminds me of BB, but they do remind me of that next tier of QB: Flacco, Cutler, Hasselbeck, Stafford.)
I can totally agree with all that. However, I would argue that if you are attempting to get your back-up or even "next" QB outside of Round 1 or Round 2 - then you better take one basically every year.
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Really though, if you want to find a steal, then you absolutely have to draft a QB every single year... because, only 1 out of 10 even make a roster (let alone become a starter).
What is more probable is that the Steelers (effectively) evaluate next year's class of QBs, lock in on their guy, and pick that QB. And, I honestly hope that they trade up for him (as opposed to "settling"... and going through several years of Bubby Bristers and Kordell Stewarts).
As Mojouw said, you never know who is available. Guys projected to go in the 2018 draft could end up waiting until next year, plus the top QBs will likely be long gone anyway
Of course. Some guys return to college for their senior years. There's also the possibility of an injury. And, there's the "trouble with the law" possibility. Et cetera. There are many factors, even in this draft (let alone a draft that is 14 months away); so there's no way of telling who will actually be available in the 2018 draft.
Plus, you are correct: the top tier guys will likely be gone by 32 ().
Which is is why I'd be willing to possibly trade this year's R2 pick in order to have an extra R1 in next year's draft. Let's say that next year, we have the 18th pick. Trade that and the 32nd pick in order to move up to 11... and draft one of those top guys.
Or... stay put at 32, and nab the next Derek Carr.
Because, IMO, despite any of the aforementioned "possibilities", the likelihood of a franchise QB being found is greater in the top 40 picks (than after pick 41 and later), and more importantly, it's far more likely that a franchise QB comes out of the 2018 draft class than out of the 2017 draft class.
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