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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    As Mojouw said, you never know who is available. Guys projected to go in the 2018 draft could end up waiting until next year, plus the top QBs will likely be long gone anyway
    Case in point Jake Locker. Anyone else remember when he decided to stay another year, he was supposed to be a surefire potential #1 overall pick? The following year he was drafted into the teens and that was considered an enormous reach
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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    I don't know what the issue is and since we was gifted a extra 3rd. Let Laundry go elsewhere and make Zach the 2 behind Ben and draft one in the 3rd 0r 4th to be our 3rd string and possible future QB.

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Jury is still out on someone of those number 1's and specially Goff. Again we was gifted a 3rd so taking a chance there or later is worth throwing a dart. Got to try soon. Not to mention will be a postion of need if we let Laundry walk. Which I would like and feel better with Zach as the 2.

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Ps. most of the 1's you mentioned was high round picks and do you actually see us having a shot to take a QB in the early 1st next year ?

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Jury is still out on someone of those number 1's and specially Goff. Again we was gifted a 3rd so taking a chance there or later is worth throwing a dart. Got to try soon. Not to mention will be a postion of need if we let Laundry walk. Which I would like and feel better with Zach as the 2.
    True... Goff is a huge question mark. Likewise, I didn't even list Bridgewater, Bortles, nor Tannehil (all first-rounders).

    But, overwhelmingly, if you're gonna find a franchise QB, it happens before pick 40 ... and, that 2017 crop is not nearly as good as 2018's (possible) crop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Ps. most of the 1's you mentioned was high round picks and do you actually see us having a shot to take a QB in the early 1st next year ?
    Bingo... which is why having two R1 picks would help us move up in the 2018 draft.

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    True... Goff is a huge question mark. Likewise, I didn't even list Bridgewater, Bortles, nor Tannehil (all first-rounders).

    But, overwhelmingly, if you're gonna find a franchise QB, it happens before pick 40 ... and, that 2017 crop is not nearly as good as 2018's (possible) crop.

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    Bingo... which is why having two R1 picks would help us move up in the 2018 draft.
    Cool and now how do we get two first rd picks next year ? Trade our 2nd and 4th this year for a extra 1 next year ?

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    Cool and now how do we get two first rd picks next year ? Trade our 2nd and 4th this year for a extra 1 next year ?
    Yep...

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Since we acquired an addition pick (105), I'd trade the 62nd pick for another team's R1 pick in 2018 (to use for acquiring one of those QBs).

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Yep...
    I'd be cool with that but like I said might cost us a 4th as well or at least a 5th.

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue View Post
    I'd be cool with that but like I said might cost us a 4th as well or at least a 5th.
    The rule of thumb is:
    RX this year = RX+1 next year

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    The rule of thumb is:
    RX this year = RX+1 next year
    So basically we will be offering our very late rd number 2 pick for some other teams 1 next year. I still think we have to throw in a decent rd pick next year to seal the deal. That said we are probably getting a late first rd pick from what team that bites on the deal. Then we will offer both our 1's next year to sniff the top ten for a QB. To a team not looking to draft one and are not sold on another position or player.

    I'm for it but a lot of if's and think Ben only has two years left at most and could be done after this year. If that is the answer hope it works!

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    Question Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    Case in point Jake Locker. Anyone else remember when he decided to stay another year, he was supposed to be a surefire potential #1 overall pick? The following year he was drafted into the teens and that was considered an enormous reach
    IMO, one of the most important stats in college football is completion percentage. If a QB can't consistently hit his WRs in college (where most of them are open by a yard or two), that QB will not make it in the NFL (where being open is a matter of inches).

    As I said back then, Locker never surpassed the 60% completion rate (i.e. he'd struggle in the NFL).



    On a related topic, that 2011 draft was very interesting. Of the first 16 picks, twelve became Pro Bowlers and one was pretty good... but, the other three were complete duds. Those three duds: Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, & Christian Ponder.

    SUMMATION: QBs are a boom or bust situation; you have to evaluate them very carefully.

    (NOTE: Andy Dalton & Colin Kaepernick were drafted in early R2... and, Tyrod Taylor wasn't drafted until R6.)

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Not defending Locker or changing the subject, but Locker left the NFL due to concussions, not poor play. Unless you count poor OLine play.

    I would be for making the trade if it meant getting our franchise QB of the next 10-15 years. I would actually give up more than that if that were the outcome. Nothing ventured, nothing gained? Plus, we're kind of playing with house money on this one.

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Not defending Locker or changing the subject, but Locker left the NFL due to concussions, not poor play. Unless you count poor OLine play.

    I would be for making the trade if it meant getting our franchise QB of the next 10-15 years. I would actually give up more than that if that were the outcome. Nothing ventured, nothing gained? Plus, we're kind of playing with house money on this one.
    Locker retired because of concussions. He was benched (in favor of Mettenberger) due to poor play.

    Exactly!!! In this draft, I want an OLB and a CB... and every other pick is worth trading away for the chance to get our next QB. We have our WR, our RB, and a stellar O-line. After BB retires, it'd be a shame to watch all of that offensive talent go to waste with some pedestrian QB.

    I would "like" some other players, but if the next two drafts netted a Pro Bowl OLB, a solid #2 CB, and a franchise QB... I'd be more than ecstatic.

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Locker retired because of concussions. He was benched (in favor of Mettenberger) due to poor play.

    Exactly!!! In this draft, I want an OLB and a CB... and every other pick is worth trading away for the chance to get our next QB. We have our WR, our RB, and a stellar O-line. After BB retires, it'd be a shame to watch all of that offensive talent go to waste with some pedestrian QB.

    I would "like" some other players, but if the next two drafts netted a Pro Bowl OLB, a solid #2 CB, and a franchise QB... I'd be more than ecstatic.
    Agreed. Lots of players in this draft that I "like". None more than making sure we have our QB position set. If a pedestrian QB could work, we wouldn't have been having the Landry Jones debate this entire off season. Speaking of Landry Jones, you think he can play CB or become a pass rush specialist?

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    Re: Steelers awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick

    Rumor has it that...

    At the NFL combine, GMs are trying to trade picks in next year's draft ... most likely, inorder to have trade-bait so that can move up for Sam Darnold.

    Yep.

    (My educated guess is that Cleveland is the team most heavily shopping their R1 pick in 2018... followed by the Jaguars.)

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