You're underestimating the Chiefs at this stage of the season imo.
You're underestimating the Chiefs at this stage of the season imo.
Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
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I guess Chiefs can move to 2 and the Raiders fall to 5. Can the Texans move to 3 and the Steelers drop to 4? Is that possible? That would be the worst case scenario of all.
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Maybe. Or overestimating Alex Smith?
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If we had to run thru the playoffs by facing Matt Moore, Matt McGloin, and Alex Smith, I would sign up right now.
Agreed. They are a much better team than our earlier experience would suggest.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
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This isn't the same Chiefs team. They have improved drastically on both sides of the ball.
They are physical. They run the ball well and control the clock. Alex Smith makes enough plays with his arm and his feet to be a threat, and he doesn't turn the ball over.
The TE Kelce is a beast. He will be very difficult to contain. Since we played them, Tyreek Hill has emerged as an explosive weapon for this team. He is a difference maker with his big play ability. He can turn any handoff or pass into a touchdown from anywhere on the field.
On defense, Justin Houston has returned from injury. They have playmakers at every level of their defense. Losing Derrick Johnson was a big loss, but they still have guys that can make plays everywhere defensively. Eric Berry, Marcus Peters, Tamba Hali, Houston, and Dontari Poe.
They will probably go 12-4 playing in the toughest division in football. It would be a mistake to take them lightly.
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I certainly will not take them lightly, but I think the above scenario is quite possible (aside from the scores). We win against the Bills and Raiders, KC wins against the Texans and NE (they are one of the few left who have a good enough def to beat the Pats I think). Then KC comes to us. I like that scenario.
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If we have to play KC, I wonder if Tomlin will put J.Gilbert on Kelce again.
dont forget that one of the factors that blew that KC game open for us quickly was Sammie Coates who has been AWOL for an eternity. Coates had his huge cath against Marcus Peters to start the game and then a really well rounded game to finish things off
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Sorry but to me, the Chiefs are absolute " Fool's Gold " They are good in two areas of the game...Special teams, and they do have 16 interceptions...although 7 of those came in 2 games. But they are good. But as a straight Offensive & Defensive team...their numbers are below average...especially defensively. And all this stuff about how they did not have Justin Houston a lot during the season, and that his loss was huge...BS! The numbers absolutely say otherwise. Houston missed the first 9 games of the season, and they went 7-2 without him. In fact the Chiefs were on a 5 game winning streak when Houston returned for their game against Tampa Bay...and they LOST with him.
The Chiefs are 20th in total Offense...and 24th in total Defense. They have been very lucky this season to have beaten some of the worst teams by a few points. Yes they did beat Oakland in a good performance. And they won at Atlanta..However J.Jones did not play that game. So even though they are not Dog Poop..they are hardly an elite level team.
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You can definitely be arrogant, argumentative, combative, self righteous and condescending Preach, but you certainly nail them on occasion!
Good job!
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....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
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Although stats never say it all, those stats are definitely intriguing. I wonder, however, what they would look like over, say, the last five-seven games. Teams can get hot and overall stats matter less in those cases, but on the other side, if a team is hot for 5-7 games, they'd also tend to rise in the stats more than 20th and 24th.
Just to compare, here are the Steelers rank, then the Chiefs
OFFENSE
Yards per Offensive snap: 5th, 16th
Yards per pass attempt: 7th, 19th
Yards per Rush attempt: virtually even (4.4, 4.3 yards, 12 and 14th)
Total TDs: 11th, 17th
Defense
Yards per play, tied.
Total yards, 9th, 24th
Yards per pass, tied
Yards per rush, 15th, 22nd
Total points allowed per game, 9th, 5th.
What I take from this is . . . the Kansas City defense is pretty good, but they're also left on the field for long periods of time (which is why their overall yardage is much higher). The question is whether that offense can show up and score points against our defense that is ninth best in points allowed. Because our offense will show up, even if it's 18 points off the kicker's foot and late TD for the win.
I am not saying KC Sucks. But I do think they are not what a normal 12-4 team is ( Maybe )..But, if KC losses at San Diego...which is limping right now with a loss to several players...then what ? Look, I agree that Oakland could lose this weekend in Denver. I mean maybe Denver will be motivated to screw over their rivals the Raiders, or maybe end up 9-7...who knows. And I know KC won't know that outcome before their game cause both play at the same time. But if any of the three....Oakland-Miami and KC have a chance at losing this weekend it IS Miami and Oakland. KC has no real excuse right now to lose to the Chargers. And if they do...I think all that so-called confidence will be striped away.
lets be real. ANY team is threat to us on the road. The only convincing road wins we've had are against an average redskins team and a hampered colts team led by a back up QB. the chiefs are still an actually good team, and other than Gillette Stadium, Arrowhead/CenturyLink Stadium are some of the toughest places to play
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Actually, I'm not arguing with you. I haven't followed KC enough to know whether they're a good team or not. I was just fascinated by the stats you posted so I wanted to take more in depth look at them. You very well could be right in everything you've posted here.
Then again...I might not
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At this point, we don't even know Gilbert's status. We haven't seen him in a while. We don't know if he's injured, or has been a healthy scratch from the lineup as he has been on the inactive list.
I'd like to have him just for his kickoff return skills, and the quality depth he can potentially provide at CB.
I guess we'll just have to hope the Steelers win a game or two, and we may find out.
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To me, best case scenario is that the stars align and we end up playing as many games as possible at home. This team scares me when they're on the road.
MUST WINE. CAN NO LOSE!!!
KC is a very good team but they also lost at home against the Titans and Tampa Bay, so they are not unbeatable.
2 things need to happen for the Steelers to win the Super Bowl
1. Stay healthy
2. Quit rolling out the soft as shit defense, especially in crunch time like they did in Baltimore's last TD drive
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While that's definitely true, I don't know, I think I'd rather see them lose earlier in the playoffs on the road than in the SB on the road. By that I mean, I'd rather see them go on the road for 2 of their 3 playoff games and either lose, or show they've turned a corner before flying down for the big game. Then again, spending a week or a week and a half at the SB sight might actually allow the team (and Ben) to settle into their pre-game rhythm.
Simple, play man up in coverage on defense.
Play 3 wides on offense.
Do that and I like their chances against anyone.
Man EVERYONE seems to be looking right past Miami 😕
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I agree with 3 wide on offense.
Spreading out the defense gives Bell more room on runs and short passes.
"With love, with patience, and with Faith
....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
I'll say it right now, if he's available in what may be his final season and he's on the block? Darren Sproles is a MUST for 2017.
They blew it three years ago, they can't afford to miss the chance again.
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And keeps the speed on the field. Miracle how AB got open down 10 points once the slugs hit the bench huh?
No, we aren't. We already say: must wine (Miami), no can lose.
Sproles is not even available Dude, I mean DUH! He has already announced that next season will be his last, and he is under contract for next season in Philly, and his base salary is peanuts. No way is Philly releasing him. Not with their RB situation.
He makes $4 million. And, you would think, he'd like to get on a contender.
Yeah you could THINK that..but you would be wrong. Darren has already said his first priority is to remain with the Eagles.
It's not a given that Sproles will be back to Philly. As it stands now, the Eagles are 850k+ over the projected 2017 cap. If they can draft a solid RB or pick one up in free agency that is more cap friendly than the $4M hit that Sproles would count against them, they would do it in a second...especially if Sproles isn't open to a restructure. He's clearly working in a backloaded deal that has hit that decision point for Philadelphia.
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