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    James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26


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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    yeah this is Bullshit what about golden boy manning they waited until he retired


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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    NFL continues to be a joke.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    NFL continues to be a joke.
    Players are to blame for that, except for the steelers.I can't believe that Smith has not been fired for that.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    What's to hide? Give them the interview so you can play.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

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    What's to hide? Give them the interview so you can play.
    EXACTLY. Get it over with.

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    Players are to blame for that, except for the steelers.I can't believe that Smith has not been fired for that.
    Yep. Definitely annoying when they "blame the players" and never exclude the Steelers, which they should...

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    James Harrison loves Roger Goodell ... "If that man was on fire and I had to piss to put him out, I wouldn't do it."

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    Hey Roger: FUCK YOU

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    What's to hide? Give them the interview so you can play.
    Because it's complete and utter bull crap that it's all the sudden a big deal after one of the 2 golden boys retires.

    I want to know what happens if these guys take the NFL to court. Do they get to play while their case is waiting to be heard? Or is that only for the other golden boy? I hope all these guys fight Go to hell and the nfl and don't just sit there and take it.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    What's to hide? Give them the interview so you can play.
    Why?

    The plain language of the NFL’s PED policy indicates that, before a player ever talks to the league or otherwise provides information regarding a potential violation arising from anything other than a positive test, the league must have “credible documented evidence” that a violation happened.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...o-ped-charges/

    Hidden camera testimony collected by a news outlet that is not only a known mouthpiece for, but is also largely sympathetic toward radical Islamic terrorists and which was immediately recanted once the subject found out he was being secretly videotaped does not qualify as credible evidence.

    I'd be telling Goodell to go eff himself too.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

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    Because it's complete and utter bull crap that it's all the sudden a big deal after one of the 2 golden boys retires.

    I want to know what happens if these guys take the NFL to court. Do they get to play while their case is waiting to be heard? Or is that only for the other golden boy? I hope all these guys fight Go to hell and the nfl and don't just sit there and take it.

    It is indeed and Goodell is a jackass, but so are many of the players. Taking drugs to gain an advantage is cheating. Smoking pot when you know your going to get tested, well that's beyond stupid. If Harrison wants to play he should do the interview, its not going to help the team being suspended with Bell.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

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    Why?



    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...o-ped-charges/

    Hidden camera testimony collected by a news outlet that is not only a known mouthpiece for, but is also largely sympathetic toward radical Islamic terrorists and which was immediately recanted once the subject found out he was being secretly videotaped does not qualify as credible evidence.

    I'd be telling Goodell to go eff himself too.

    Because your not going to play if you don't do the interview, its that simple. Plus you give Goodell more salt to rub in the wound by letting him deciding when you can play.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

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    Because your not going to play if you don't do the interview, its that simple. Plus you give Goodell more salt to rub in the wound by letting him deciding when you can play.
    Nope.

    The plain language of the NFL’s PED policy indicates that, before a player ever talks to the league or otherwise provides information regarding a potential violation arising from anything other than a positive test, the league must have “credible documented evidence” that a violation happened.
    Once again, this falls under the league's drug policy, not the player conduct policy. Goodell doesn't get to do whatever he wants this time.

    And a single-sourced (and later recanted) story put out there by al-Qaeda's propaganda wing is NOT credible.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

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    Nope. Once again, this falls under the league's drug policy, not the player conduct policy. Goodell doesn't get to do whatever he wants this time.
    That's what Brady thought last year.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    That's what Brady thought last year.
    Brady's offense fell under the player conduct policy, and yes, Goodell can do whatever he wants there. The league's drug policy is a different matter entirely.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    NFL players should fight 'Al-Jazeera suspensions' like crazy

    The point, of course, is that Peppers, Matthews, Neal and Harrison have been smart in approaching the latest investigation with extreme caution. One wrong move, or one perceived to be uncooperative by the league, and they'll forever be stained by NFL discipline.

    The NFL already has a PED policy, to which all four players have been subject. The policy's testing procedure should be the source of any allegation. Unless one or more of them have tested positive, they are innocent under the terms of the agreed NFL-NFLPA policy. The policy does allow for discipline if violations are found through "sufficient credible documented evidence," but unless the NFL has uncovered something more than Al-Jazeera did from a now-discredited source, it's difficult to imagine what that might be.


    In this case, the NFL is asking the players to step outside the policy and answer to the allegation anyway. Ask Brady and Hargrove, both of whom denied their respective accusations from the start, how that worked out for them.

    In truth, this really isn't about PEDs. Again, the NFL has a policy for that. This is another maneuver in the now-ubiquitous power struggle between the league and its players. The NFL is emboldened by its legal victory over Brady and is using the same broad authority -- as written in Article 46 of the CBA -- to compel participation in an otherwise out-of-policy investigation.

    If you celebrated Brady's discipline, surely you realized that their team could be next. You did realize that, right?

    At the moment, it's difficult to imagine the limits of this power. Even in a union environment, with a legal CBA in place, we might finally have reached the moment where players are subject to discipline whenever they don't do what the NFL asks of them. If you thought the relationship between the two sides was icy and too litigious already, wait until you see what's next.


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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    It is indeed and Goodell is a jackass, but so are many of the players. Taking drugs to gain an advantage is cheating. Smoking pot when you know your going to get tested, well that's beyond stupid. If Harrison wants to play he should do the interview, its not going to help the team being suspended with Bell.
    Are you serious? You are insinuating that James is only fighting this because he took drugs to enhance his performance otherwise he wouldn't have any other reason to fight? Never mind that what Go to Hell is doing is over stepping his bounds. What happened to the players who fought bountygate?

    Are you assuming that it is ok for nfl to do whatever they want? This is the reason the Steelers fought the cba they knew go to hell would over step his bounds and low and behold they are right. Your comments about having nothing to hide is not even relevant it is not about hiding or not it's about the nfl pushing players around without legal right to do so. This is all about a bully picking on certain players just because he thinks he can. I hope James gets a lawyer and takes the fight to this ass hat who is distracting him from doing his job.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    NFL players should fight 'Al-Jazeera suspensions' like crazy

    The point, of course, is that Peppers, Matthews, Neal and Harrison have been smart in approaching the latest investigation with extreme caution. One wrong move, or one perceived to be uncooperative by the league, and they'll forever be stained by NFL discipline.

    The NFL already has a PED policy, to which all four players have been subject. The policy's testing procedure should be the source of any allegation. Unless one or more of them have tested positive, they are innocent under the terms of the agreed NFL-NFLPA policy. The policy does allow for discipline if violations are found through "sufficient credible documented evidence," but unless the NFL has uncovered something more than Al-Jazeera did from a now-discredited source, it's difficult to imagine what that might be.


    In this case, the NFL is asking the players to step outside the policy and answer to the allegation anyway. Ask Brady and Hargrove, both of whom denied their respective accusations from the start, how that worked out for them.

    In truth, this really isn't about PEDs. Again, the NFL has a policy for that. This is another maneuver in the now-ubiquitous power struggle between the league and its players. The NFL is emboldened by its legal victory over Brady and is using the same broad authority -- as written in Article 46 of the CBA -- to compel participation in an otherwise out-of-policy investigation.

    If you celebrated Brady's discipline, surely you realized that their team could be next. You did realize that, right?

    At the moment, it's difficult to imagine the limits of this power. Even in a union environment, with a legal CBA in place, we might finally have reached the moment where players are subject to discipline whenever they don't do what the NFL asks of them. If you thought the relationship between the two sides was icy and too litigious already, wait until you see what's next.


    read more

    http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/p...ons-like-crazy

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ask the players from the Saints who fought bountgate how it turned out for them? How did it turn out for Adrian Peterson?

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    Are you serious? You are insinuating that James is only fighting this because he took drugs to enhance his performance otherwise he wouldn't have any other reason to fight? Never mind that what Go to Hell is doing is over stepping his bounds. What happened to the players who fought bountygate?

    Are you assuming that it is ok for nfl to do whatever they want? This is the reason the Steelers fought the cba they knew go to hell would over step his bounds and low and behold they are right. Your comments about having nothing to hide is not even relevant it is not about hiding or not it's about the nfl pushing players around without legal right to do so. This is all about a bully picking on certain players just because he thinks he can. I hope James gets a lawyer and takes the fight to this ass hat who is distracting him from doing his job.
    I don't know if Harrison took drugs or not. I do know if it was me and I had nothing to hide, I'd do the interview for the sake of the team. The owners including the Rooney's put good old Roger on his throne and thats why the NFL can do whatever they want, he's pouring money in their bank accounts. You sure as hell can't blame all this bs on the nfl, there are plenty of brain dead players out there fueling the fire.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I don't know if Harrison took drugs or not. I do know if it was me and I had nothing to hide, I'd do the interview for the sake of the team. The owners including the Rooney's put good old Roger on his throne and thats why the NFL can do whatever they want, he's pouring money in their bank accounts. You sure as hell can't blame all this bs on the nfl, there are plenty of brain dead players out there fueling the fire.
    And in doing so you are allowing the nfl to push the boundaries further and further and who's to say the nfl would even give you a fair shake? Would you also just give in and let the nfl punish you even though you are innocent in your eyes but not in theirs? Where do you draw the line or better yet where do they draw the line? I don't know about you, but I love that our players voted against the cba. If you don't step up to them then they win.

    Finally yes I do COMPLETELY blame this on the nfl. They are the ones overstepping their bounds and pushing the boundaries of what they can and cannot do legally. This is does not have anything to do with any "brain dead" player it's all about the nfl abusing it's power and trying to push the boundaries.

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    And in doing so you are allowing the nfl to push the boundaries further and further and who's to say the nfl would even give you a fair shake? Would you also just give in and let the nfl punish you even though you are innocent in your eyes but not in theirs? Where do you draw the line or better yet where do they draw the line? I don't know about you, but I love that our players voted against the cba. If you don't step up to them then they win.

    Finally yes I do COMPLETELY blame this on the nfl. They are the ones overstepping their bounds and pushing the boundaries of what they can and cannot do legally. This is does not have anything to do with any "brain dead" player it's all about the nfl abusing it's power and trying to push the boundaries.
    I love that our players voted against the cba too, but when 32 owner's support Goodell its like storming hell with a water pistol.

    The brain dead do indeed add to the snowball effect of the lone Roger fighting for the shield, it all dovetails to more power, which is what the owners gave him...in exchange for cash, of course.

    The players are not going to win this battle, they just need to decide if they want to play football this year.


    Bottom line: interview by the 25th or you will be suspended and even when you do speak to the league, Roger Goodell will decide when to let you back into the league.

    You can read the entire letter at the above link, which I’ll post again here.
    This is just another crazy saga as the union and league have attempted to one-up each other. The NFL told the union they would interview each player on the first day of camp. The union responded by sending sworn affidavits in place of an interview. And now the league has taken action to the most extreme degree, a threat of suspension. Of course, the league has the right to enforce its power.
    The CBA gives Goodell most of the power and very little ability for the union, and its players, to fight back. The league can simply say the players failed to cooperate, even if they are innocent of the allegations, and use that as enough proof to suspend the player. I hate to say I told you so but it was clear from the start that’s the ax the NFL would wield if it came to that point.
    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/08...erview-league/

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    Re: James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and Mike Neal will be suspended if they haven't submitted to interviews by Aug. 26

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    The brain dead do indeed add to the snowball effect of the lone Roger fighting for the shield, it all dovetails to more power, which is what the owners gave him...in exchange for cash, of course.

    The players are not going to win this battle, they just need to decide if they want to play football this year.


    Bottom line: interview by the 25th or you will be suspended and even when you do speak to the league, Roger Goodell will decide when to let you back into the league.

    You can read the entire letter at the above link, which I’ll post again here.
    This is just another crazy saga as the union and league have attempted to one-up each other. The NFL told the union they would interview each player on the first day of camp. The union responded by sending sworn affidavits in place of an interview. And now the league has taken action to the most extreme degree, a threat of suspension. Of course, the league has the right to enforce its power.
    The CBA gives Goodell most of the power and very little ability for the union, and its players, to fight back. The league can simply say the players failed to cooperate, even if they are innocent of the allegations, and use that as enough proof to suspend the player. I hate to say I told you so but it was clear from the start that’s the ax the NFL would wield if it came to that point.
    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/08...erview-league/
    They may not play but the nfl does not want to lose another case in court especially to James Harrison of the Steelers. If he suspends them you can bet your bippy there will be a court case pending for go to hell. Also even if you don't fight it there is no guarantee that you will get a fair shake by the nfl, so you might as well take your chances with the courts. Don't let go to hell be the only one who can rattle his saber.

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