View Poll Results: Who will be the Steelers rookie of the year?

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  • CB Artie Burns, Miami

    4 12.12%
  • S Sean Davis, Maryland

    16 48.48%
  • DT Javon Hargrave, South Carolina State

    12 36.36%
  • OT Jerald Hawkins, LSU

    0 0%
  • OLB Travis Feeney, WSU

    0 0%
  • WR Demarcus Ayers, Houston

    0 0%
  • ILB Tyler Matakevich, Temple

    1 3.03%
  • DE Devaunte Sigler, Jacksonville State

    0 0%
  • P Will Monday, Duke

    0 0%
  • TE DJ Reeves, Duke

    0 0%
  • RB Christian Powell, Colorado

    0 0%
  • DT Johnny Maxey, Mars Hill

    0 0%
  • OLB Zack Shaw, Indiana

    0 0%
  • QB Nick Arbuckle, Georgia State

    0 0%
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Thread: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

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    Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Who do you think it will be? I added undrafted free agents that have signed so far for good measure
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Sean Davis has my vote

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    I have Sean Davis as well. I think Hargrave will be a better player, but I think Tuitt and Heyward will steal too many snaps from him to win it, while Davis will be a fringe starter
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    Who do you think it will be? I added undrafted free agents that have signed so far for good measure
    I can honestly say that I have never heard of any of the UDFAs we have signed so far...

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    I can honestly say that I have never heard of any of the UDFAs we have signed so far...
    Nor have I, but after reading about this kid my gut tells me he'll make the roster.



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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Voted for Hargrave because he has the easiest path to a starting job.

    I think Golden is a good player and will keep Davis out.

    Burns is a bit of a wildcard with our corners.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyphon25 View Post
    Voted for Hargrave because he has the easiest path to a starting job.

    I think Golden is a good player and will keep Davis out.

    Burns is a bit of a wildcard with our corners.

    Agreed on Hargrave.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Nor have I, but after reading about this kid my gut tells me he'll make the roster.


    I do too, imo he'll make the team by being a monster on special teams...

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    I do too, imo he'll make the team by being a monster on special teams...
    Colbert on Tyler...."He's not the biggest. He's not the fastest. But he's a heckuva football player."

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Hargrave, because he should be getting significant playing time from the opening whistle of Week 1. All the others maybe, maybe not.

    My dark horse second candidate is Hawkins; if either of our tackles get hurt, he could be a key player, and he's got Munchak working in his favor.
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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyphon25 View Post
    Voted for Hargrave because he has the easiest path to a starting job.

    I think Golden is a good player and will keep Davis out.

    Burns is a bit of a wildcard with our corners.
    cant remember exactly what he said at the press conference, but Lake said something that strongly insinuated that they'll put Artie Burns in a position to play how he is comfortable (bump and run) early on. im interested to see if we follow through
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    I have Sean Davis as well. I think Hargrave will be a better player, but I think Tuitt and Heyward will steal too many snaps from him to win it, while Davis will be a fringe starter
    I guess I'm not sold on Hargrave. Very small to be playing the Nose which is why I believe they have other plans for him. Possibly in sub packages. I think Davis will deliver some crushing blows and cause some turnovers for us, likely on special teams. It would be great if he could do it on defense as well.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by RunNGun View Post
    I guess I'm not sold on Hargrave. Very small to be playing the Nose which is why I believe they have other plans for him. Possibly in sub packages. I think Davis will deliver some crushing blows and cause some turnovers for us, likely on special teams. It would be great if he could do it on defense as well.
    Players can always gain weight, particularly young ones. Mclendon was 280lb when he got here, went up to 325lb in a short amount of time. Villanueva gained like 80lb in an offseason, albeit he's taller so its easier to put weight on his frame.

    I always get asmued when i see scouting reports talk about how "small" a player is when they're something along the lines of a 190lb cornerback or a 240lb ILB. Its like.....wtf? Thats not that small, and they're going to continue to grow in their early 20's?
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    Players can always gain weight, particularly young ones. Mclendon was 280lb when he got here, went up to 325lb in a short amount of time. Villanueva gained like 80lb in an offseason, albeit he's taller so its easier to put weight on his frame.

    I always get asmued when i see scouting reports talk about how "small" a player is when they're something along the lines of a 190lb cornerback or a 240lb ILB. Its like.....wtf? Thats not that small, and they're going to continue to grow in their early 20's?
    I agree, I believe he can put on some weight without much of a problem, but it may be difficult for him to produce until he does so. All the tools are there for him to be successful. However, I believe his chances at failing may be the same as him succeeding. Although, the same could be said about all of our picks. I just like Burns and Davis' chances better.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyphon25 View Post
    Voted for Hargrave because he has the easiest path to a starting job.

    I think Golden is a good player and will keep Davis out.

    Burns is a bit of a wildcard with our corners.
    similar reason for my vote for Hargrave. He will be in rotation quickly and has success getting to the qb and TFL. I think he translate the quickest to the NFL

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Tomlin on Tyler Matakevich @ 6:50

    http://www.steelers.com/videos/video...5-437155352dc0

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    picked Hargrave but I just got a funny feeling Demarcus Ayers might be a diamond in the rough but we'll see

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by RunNGun View Post
    I agree, I believe he can put on some weight without much of a problem, but it may be difficult for him to produce until he does so. All the tools are there for him to be successful. However, I believe his chances at failing may be the same as him succeeding. Although, the same could be said about all of our picks. I just like Burns and Davis' chances better.
    He's not the 1st undersized nose tackle out there. guys like Jay Ratliff and Randy Starks have had success in this league. A couple pounds and he's about the typical nose tackle size. And no nose tackle in the league can boast his kind of athleticism except maybe Poe
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    He's not the 1st undersized nose tackle out there. guys like Jay Ratliff and Randy Starks have had success in this league. A couple pounds and he's about the typical nose tackle size. And no nose tackle in the league can boast his kind of athleticism except maybe Poe
    I've got him listed at 6'2 295 lbs, which is more than a couple of pounds shy of your typical nose tackle. I understand that there have been undersized NT who have succeeded, but I also don't believe they will utilize him as a NT. I believe McCullers is the nose and Hargrave will play as a situational pass rusher, at least in his rookie season. Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by RunNGun View Post
    I've got him listed at 6'2 295 lbs, which is more than a couple of pounds shy of your typical nose tackle. I understand that there have been undersized NT who have succeeded, but I also don't believe they will utilize him as a NT. I believe McCullers is the nose and Hargrave will play as a situational pass rusher, at least in his rookie season. Just my 2 cents.
    Official combine measurement has him at 309lb. He's not too far from solid nose tackle size. i agree with your sentiment though
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    That official weight definitely helps his case for being undersized. May be the perfect size for a NT/DT hybrid.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    So the kid from Temple is basically Olsavsky reincarnated. Good thing that is his new position coach!

    That made me laugh.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Only one person chose Burns so far. Even though some are shy to say it, they know Burns was not a good pick that early.

    I chose Hargrave. I think Golden will keep Davis off the field. I can see Hargrave getting more playing time after the 4th week or so.
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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyphon25 View Post
    Voted for Hargrave because he has the easiest path to a starting job.
    Same here. Shorter learning curve for a DL than a DB as well.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Only one person chose Burns so far. Even though some are shy to say it, they know Burns was not a good pick that early.
    Outside of QB, CB is probably the most difficult position to learn that there is. Hell, even Mel Blount contemplated quitting when he got burned for 3 TDs in one game as a second-year player by Paul Warfield, and that was back when it was still primarily a running game.

    That's really the only reason I picked Hargrave. But you could put a traffic cone back there and it would still be an upgrade over Blake.

    IMO, Burns will be fine, but he will have some growing pains due to the nature of the position and he will catch flak early from the Nation because they tend to have zero patience in these matters. Many are going to demand that Burns perform like Rod Woodson in his 7th year right out of the gate and that's not going to happen.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Hargrave is going to have instant playing time since DL depth is so thin. That was my pick.

    Sleeper pick is Feeney on special teams



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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    I picked Artie. I liked him before the draft, I called the selection, so I'm in.

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Hopefully Artie gets a nickname more positively associated with his last name and wins the Steelers ROY. If he fails miserably he will own a list of them longer than the one of Cleveland QBs over the last ten years.
    All Defense!

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    Re: Poll: Rookie of the Year Favorite?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALLD View Post
    Hopefully Artie gets a nickname more positively associated with his last name and wins the Steelers ROY. If he fails miserably he will own a list of them longer than the one of Cleveland QBs over the last ten years.
    And in Burns' case, "failing miserably" = "not looking the like the second coming of Rod Woodson right out of the gate" in many people's minds.

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