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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    My God this kid is a BEAST !!

    He can flat out move and fly around for a person of his size !

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I can not believe this guy was there in the late 3rd. Thought for sure he would have to be the 2nd round pick.
    Rumor has it, that Coach Noll borrowed his game tapes... and never returned them.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Notice how people dismissing this pick dont even mention that he dominated in the East-West Shrine game or the Senior Bowl where he obliterated the notion that he's only good against his lower level competition
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    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    Notice how people dismissing this pick dont even mention that he dominated in the East-West Shrine game or the Senior Bowl where he obliterated the notion that he's only good against his lower level competition

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    Notice how people dismissing this pick dont even mention that he dominated in the East-West Shrine game or the Senior Bowl where he obliterated the notion that he's only good against his lower level competition



    Former Steeler draft pick, " Tee Martin " was awarded the best player at the Senior Bowl, as well as MVL in the East/West Shrine game by throwing for 348 Yards in only 14 attempts with 4 TD's....Ahh, exactly how many Super Bowls did Tee take us too ?



    Yeah I thought so!1

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerkitty View Post
    Former Steeler draft pick, " Tee Martin " was awarded the best player at the Senior Bowl, as well as MVL in the East/West Shrine game by throwing for 348 Yards in only 14 attempts with 4 TD's....Ahh, exactly how many Super Bowls did Tee take us too ?



    Yeah I thought so!1
    And just to prove your point, you cite a fantasy football nerd site (PFF) that graded him as a solid B+ pick.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerkitty View Post
    Former Steeler draft pick, " Tee Martin " was awarded the best player at the Senior Bowl, as well as MVL in the East/West Shrine game by throwing for 348 Yards in only 14 attempts with 4 TD's....Ahh, exactly how many Super Bowls did Tee take us too ?



    Yeah I thought so!1
    do i really need to cite the number of successful players that played well in both the senior bowl and east/west shrine game. and combine that with the number of players that have matched Hargrave's athletic metrics and production?
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerkitty View Post
    Former Steeler draft pick, " Tee Martin " was awarded the best player at the Senior Bowl, as well as MVL in the East/West Shrine game by throwing for 348 Yards in only 14 attempts with 4 TD's....Ahh, exactly how many Super Bowls did Tee take us too ?



    Yeah I thought so!1

    The difference is a quarterback has the opportunity to take advantage of a mistake anyone on the defense makes. He can fumble the ball and have a RB pick it up and run for a TD. He can throw a -2 yard screen pass that turns into an 85 yard TD. He can see a blown coverage and throw the ball to a WR that doesn't have a defender within 20 yards of him.

    A defensive lineman goes head to head with the best offensive linemen in the country on every snap. He had many snaps against offensive linemen with very good talent, and he outplayed every one of them. Because you are able to see how he did from snap to snap with a clear picture of how he held up on every play, you get a much truer evaluation of the player's talent level.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    And im going to post this again. Sure its a little bit of "bro science," but these metrics are still remarkable:

    http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/...ensive-tackles
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Of all the picks, this is the one I am most excited about. His sack production is ridiculous and there is no telling what John Mitchell's coaching can turn him into

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Daniel Jeremiah on Hargrave, one of the picks he loved.

    Round 3, pick 89 - DT Javon Hargrave, Steelers:Hargrave, from South Carolina State, was one of my favorite players to study. If he would have played at a Division I program, he would have gone in the first round. He was one of the most dynamic interior pass rushers in the draft. He had 29.5 sacks over the past two seasons. That is big-time production. If you look at his testing numbers, they stack up favorably with a lot of the best interior defensive linemen from the past two drafts.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. ​Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    now that will be a cult classic nickname if he pans out for us as a player
    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post
    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: 3rd Round Pick: Javon Hargrave

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    now that will be a cult classic nickname if he pans out for us as a player

    "Gravedigger" would be epic!

    Now he just has to become a very good player!

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