We are the Steelers. Our Super Bowl window is always wide open.
We are the Steelers. Our Super Bowl window is always wide open.
The armchair GM's still haven't calmed down lol. Still believe the Steelers panicked
1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa
I think that people would not be freakin' out if Mike Mayock had been allowed to finish his analysis of Artie Burns.
Rich "Googell's toady" Eisen cut Mayock off, before Mayock could tell everyone how much he liked the pick.
Not panicked - they knew exactly what they were doing, but had the wrong idea. We could've picked worse players, but I think we could've picked several better ones too. Including better players at the same position, or equally talented players at the same position for a lower pick.
But wait - what do I know, I'm not an NFL head coach, and therefore have no business holding an opinion about the draft, or about football. We'd better go and delete all the draft threads before all this peasant-speak pollutes the sacred football mindshare. </forum>
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And one thing to remember, The Miami Hurricane's are just bad at developing talent. Awful coaching down there.
1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa
1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa
It depends on who we get as a quarterback after that. A lot of the issues we had at the position in the '80s and '90s were from lack of even trying to find one. We passed over several good ones. I don't think we went through that experience without learning anything.
Of course you want a franchise QB, but as currently constituted, I think this team could compete for a title with a merely good QB. Although only as a dark-horse candidate, not a favorite.
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I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play! - Jack Lambert
My opinions:
1. I like Burns. The kid lead the ACC in picks. There was talk that he would be a late first round pick.
2. I've heard a lot of talk about not trading up or down. Up to get a better player, back to take this guy a few picks later. The problem is, there's no guarantee that the player you want will be there if you trade back...and trading up you need a partner willing to trade back and you have to be willing to give up what that team wants to move up. The Steelers don't have 12 picks in this draft, so they don't exactly have a ton of amunition to move up even if they wanted to.
3. The talk of Burns not being a good zone defender and that's all the Steelers run - guess what, this could be signaling a change in that. What was the biggest complaint about LeBeau? That he refused to change. Maybe Butler is willing to change things, maybe he WANTS to change things but has to get players that can play that way.
4. I trust the Steelers coaches, front office, and scouting department more than I trust the guys on TV talking about these players. If these guys were so good, why aren't they working for NFL teams? And why don't they predict every pick correctly? Hell, didn't one of those bozos call Jamarcus Russell a can't miss prospect who would dominate the NFL?
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You do know that Mosley wasn't a bust, right? In fact, accounting for availability, he's been the more productive player so far. But I guess unless Shazier was a kill-yourself obvious bust, nobody with a different preference had any clue.
Laugh if you want; I guess if you're looking for a reason to look down your nose at people, you'll find one. Just know that it makes you look like a condescending prick while everyone else is, you know ... actually TALKING about the good and bad, like normal fans. You're aware that other people are allowed to do that whether or not you play the Superfan card, aren't you?
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The only thing you know about a good press cover rookie corner is that you can put him on the field to play man coverage. If he plays well in that role, you keep trotting him out on the field and use him in that capacity. He can continue to work on the other stuff.
Hell, he may be a third down nickel or dime specialist right out of the gate with very limited responsibility.
The way they stayed put and didn't entertain trades tells me they looked at him as the last upper tier CB on their board, he was one of the players that they targeted as a player they would take at #25 if he was there.
For all of you wanting to bash the Artie Burns pick... blame me.
My son was wearing his Steelers jersey throughout the entire first round (as the picks fell as we wanted them to). Then, as Pittsburgh was about to go on the clock, I asked my wife to get my son in his pajamas/put him to bed (so that I could concentrate).
The rest is history.
I know Mosely isn't a bust, wasn't my intention to say he was, he's a pretty damn good player. It's just fans had the same reaction that day, and now they're pretty happy with the pick, beside his injuries. (kinda missed my point)
Lmao, I only "look down my nose at the people"(in the most humbled way possible) who act like everyone should be fired or the sky is falling cause they picked a player they didn't want, sorry it's dumb(it is). I've actually have talked about the good and bad's about the pick(high upside player, but very raw, definition of a boom or bust. has very interesting intangibles, height, speed, 33" arms), not sure if I have here though.
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1. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 2. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia 3. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan 3. Renardo Green, CB, FSU 4. Mo Kamara, OLB, Colorado State 6. Logan Lee, DT, Iowa 6.Khristian Boyd, NT, Northern Iowa
The Mosley-Shazier debate is fascinating. I thought Mosley was the better pick and then as Shazier's games missed counter sky-rocketed, I started to get that sinking feeling. But I just can't shake two images from my mind.
Bell and others beating Mosley like a drum in coverage. Over and Over again. I can't remember what year or game it was, but it was brutal. Haley just basically said - You can't cover our guys and if your DC keeps trying to make you, we are going to expose that decision again and again.
Then the game that Shazier had in San Fran to open the season and in Cincinnati in the playoffs. Assuming he can ever find a way to shake the injury bug, there are no holes in his game as obvious as Mosley's in coverages.
Mosley is a good to really good player. Shazier can be great. Or he can fizzle as his body breaks down. I have no idea, but it is fascinating to watch!