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    Re: Cardinals HC Bruce Arians Still Taking Jabs At Steelers For Firing Him

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    Re: Cardinals HC Bruce Arians Still Taking Jabs At Steelers For Firing Him

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    I really can't say I much blame him, personally, especially when LeBeau at the very least should have also been shown the door after the Tebow debacle. Instead, he got another 3 years.
    I don't think it's an apples to apples situation when you compare LeBeau to BA. It was a lot harder for the Steelers to let go of LeBeau because he had built up a much greater degree of accomplishment, both as a Steeler and as a defensive coordinator. LeBeau was an innovator that changed the way football is played. Part of his getting into the Hall of Fame was in recognition of his accomplishments as a defensive mastermind, most of which came while on the Steelers staff, first as a lb's coach then in two stints as DC. .He was the defensive coordinator for both of our recent Super Bowl wins. BA was a wr coach for the SB 40 champs. Also the defense was the driving force that got the Steelers to those SB's (though ironically the offense was the better performing unit on the field in SB 43.So in my opinion it wasn't the same. The Steelers and the league saw LeBeau through a different lens than Bruce. While a Steelers assistant Bruce was never considered anything more than a so and so sort of coach. Probably regarded more around the league a misplaced position coach than a top flight OC. But of course that's all changed since he's left, and bravo to him. But getting back to the point you know as well as I do that LeBeau had more league wide cache as a Steelers assistant than Bruce ever came close to approaching. In a sense you could compare firing LeBeau given his status in this city and throughout the league as just a notch below what it would have been to fire Noll. (which in essence sort of happened) So to me it was easy to understand why LeBeau was given a longer plank to walk than Bruce.
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    Re: Cardinals HC Bruce Arians Still Taking Jabs At Steelers For Firing Him

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    Re: Cardinals HC Bruce Arians Still Taking Jabs At Steelers For Firing Him

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    I don't think it's an apples to apples situation when you compare LeBeau to BA. It was a lot harder for the Steelers to let go of LeBeau because he had built up a much greater degree of accomplishment, both as a Steeler and as a defensive coordinator. LeBeau was an innovator that changed the way football is played. Part of his getting into the Hall of Fame was in recognition of his accomplishments as a defensive mastermind, most of which came while on the Steelers staff, first as a lb's coach then in two stints as DC. .He was the defensive coordinator for both of our recent Super Bowl wins. BA was a wr coach for the SB 40 champs. Also the defense was the driving force that got the Steelers to those SB's (though ironically the offense was the better performing unit on the field in SB 43.So in my opinion it wasn't the same. The Steelers and the league saw LeBeau through a different lens than Bruce. While a Steelers assistant Bruce was never considered anything more than a so and so sort of coach. Probably regarded more around the league a misplaced position coach than a top flight OC. But of course that's all changed since he's left, and bravo to him. But getting back to the point you know as well as I do that LeBeau had more league wide cache as a Steelers assistant than Bruce ever came close to approaching. In a sense you could compare firing LeBeau given his status in this city and throughout the league as just a notch below what it would have been to fire Noll. (which in essence sort of happened) So to me it was easy to understand why LeBeau was given a longer plank to walk than Bruce.
    Good point. LeBeau was a MUCH more accomplished coordinator than Arians.

    Can you tell I am still really pissed about the Tebow wildcard game?

    Still can't believe I dropped $200+ to see that in person.

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    Re: Cardinals HC Bruce Arians Still Taking Jabs At Steelers For Firing Him

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    Good point. LeBeau was a MUCH more accomplished coordinator than Arians.

    Can you tell I am still really pissed about the Tebow wildcard game?

    Still can't believe I dropped $200+ to see that in person.
    LeBeau's defense was the top scoring defense (allowed the fewest points) in 6 out of 7 seasons. That type of dominance will get you a couple of extra years.

    In his defense of the Tebow game, I would have done the EXACT same thing. I would have loaded the box with 9 & 10 players, and forced Tebow to throw. Somehow, Tebow connected on a couple of "miracle" throws that decided the game. (That TD pass to Eddie Royal still has me wondering if there was divine intervention. )

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    Re: Cardinals HC Bruce Arians Still Taking Jabs At Steelers For Firing Him

    What pisses me off about that season is they got manhandled by the Ratbirds in the season opener.

    They (both Arians and LeBeau) adjusted and game planned for the Cheats** game and win. Ben threw (dink and dunk if you want to call it) more short passes and got rid of the ball quicker than usual. LeBeau laid off the cushion and kept Gronk from destroying them and Woodley had his last great game as a football player.

    They then go back to their regular ways and get embarrassed by Tebow. Yes, Ike had his worst game at the wrong time.

    A very weak 12-4 team. I thought they would at least win the WC game.



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