The '08 team had a better record against a tougher schedule. And if Turnover Tommy would have been forced to start one more game, the '05 team wouldn't have even made the playoffs.Originally Posted by polamalubeast
The '08 team had a better record against a tougher schedule. And if Turnover Tommy would have been forced to start one more game, the '05 team wouldn't have even made the playoffs.
If Ben had not missed a game in 2005, the Steelers would probably have finished with a 13-3 record ....
For the schedule, in the playoffs the Steelers beat the 14-2 Colts and the 13-3 Broncos on the road!
And then played so poorly in the SB that everyone who isn't a Steelers fan still thinks the game was gifted to them by the refs as a retirement present for Bettis.
Frankly, I blame Cowher for that. Ben was scared of his own shadow in that game. Night and day difference between that Ben and the one who showed up in Indy and Denver. Think O'Donnell gift-wrapping SB XXX for the Cowboys didn't have something to do with that?
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Correctomundo!
"A man's got to know his limitations."
In 2008, they also almost lost against the cardinals.
In 2008, the Steelers have won several close game.In 2005, when they won, they were dominant for most of the time
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Those people are foolish. That was a very good Seahawk team. And if Ben gets a little more air under one pass the Steelers win in a blowout ( as opposed to an 11 point win)
People also claim the Steelers were lucky to beat a 9-7 Cardinal team.
Personally I think Cowher was a very good coach. I also think Tomlin is a very good coach who has it in him to eclipse Cowher in a few years if the front office does their job and we get some luck.
I've never been a fan of propping one up to diminish the other. Neither is perfect. But I think both are very good.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
It was a shitty game all around by both teams, so the "officiating controversy" narrative stuck (thank you, John Madden). Maybe I'd feel differently if we blew them out. All I could think of after that game was "I waited 26 years for THIS?!?"That was a very good Seahawk team. And if Ben gets a little more air under one pass the Steelers win in a blowout ( as opposed to an 11 point win
A Super Bowl is a super bowl.I do not care that it was ugly, since a super bowl is so hard to win.
Those who cry on this games have probably never seen their favorite team win a championship.
The aftermath of all the bellyaching and whining after that game is when I turned ESPN off for good. Watching the talking heads on that network with their subtle and not-so-subtle insinuations of the Steelers being "gifted" that Super Bowl kinda pissed me off (to put it mildly).
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Well I blame Todd Haley. 3rd and 18 at your own 22. 15-0 lead. You're one handoff from punting from your own 25 or so with a quarter of football to play. But no. Todd gets greedy. Decides to go for the 1st down. Here you now Burfic is loaded for bear, but you feed him anyway. Just a mind numbingly dumb play call!
"A man's got to know his limitations."
Not to mention the chickenshit playcalling the entire 1st half.Well I blame Todd Haley. 3rd and 18 at your own 22. 15-0 lead. You're one handoff from punting from your own 25 or so with a quarter of football to play. But no. Todd gets greedy. Decides to go for the 1st down. Here you now Burfic is loaded for bear, but you feed him anyway. Just a mind numbingly dumb play call!
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We won. The reverse ju-ju worked. Thanks Zu.
Aaaand Yinz can shower me with praise and kudos
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
LOL. WHatever works!!
I feel sorry for Ben ans his shoulder and his buddy AB...
Enthroned Into The Good Old Boys Club - 2024
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I'm glad we ended the Bengals season. But if Haley doesn't make his hero third down call we not only win with less angst. We win and more than likely have a healthy qb and wr going into next week.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
agree. terrible call.
I'm glad I don't come on here until after the game.
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If Shazier is given the fumble return for a TD (which it was)...
...BB doesn't get sacked & injured.
"22-0" turned into "15-0 w/ an injured BB" on one play.
Great point. I completely forgot about the fumble return. Most definitely should have been a TD. We basically got 7 points taken off the board because the same crew that sucked hind tit in the Bengals game a few weeks ago had their heads up their asses again.
The Ben injury turned the game on it's head.
Ben doesn't get hurt, this is an entirely different game.
i really dont understand why refs dont let those types of plays play out. nothing bad could really come out of it really
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Steelers won and Ben should get a lot of credit for the win. I said if he throws less than 2 INTs - the Steelers should win. Well Jones threw one INT and Ben almost threw another but it was dropped by the Bengals LB Rey. If that INT was not dropped - it would have cost us a FG / 3 points. And we would have lost the game 16-15.lets
Ben did more than enough to help the Steelers be in position for a win. Thank you Ben for breaking the playoff drought. Heal up and see you in Denver.
So was Ben clutch there? That was a clutch situation that we spoke of. I don't know...I lean towards saying he wasn't...although he was injured, to a point which none of us know...but it didn't look too promising until the 30 yards of penalties were tacked on.
That's about as "clutch" as it gets. He stepped in and got it done, even though he was in pain, unable to throw for any kind of distance, and was operating in bad weather. I don't think Landry Jones would've been able to pull it off.
"You've heard people brag about 'being in the zone'. They don't know what the Hell being in the zone is about. I played in the NFL for 15 years and I was only in the zone that one time." - "Mean" Joe Greene on the 1974 playoff victory over Oakland
Really? Just across midfield (the 47 I think) with 22 seconds left? 15 more yards and it is a 50 yarder or so. Not an ideal situation for Boswell, but reasonable to expect even in the rain. Kid has a big leg. So that is two completions. Not a sure thing at all. But with that amount of time and what Ben had done already on the drive - it is/was possible. Maybe not probable, but possible.
I, for one, am certainly glad that we will never have to play that scenario out. But to view what Ben was able to do as "non clutch" than I shudder to think what the bar for "clutch" would be.
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