Goats.

[zulater]

A few things.

Anyone who thinks Ben is a goat. You're an idiot. No more needs to be said, but I'll say this anyway. The first interception the ball slipped out of Ben's hands.this either just was one of those things, or came about because Ben saw the db in position to make a play and tried to pull up on the pass and it slipped out. Either way when you;re passing in tight windows against a good team this will eventually happen. The second interception, it should have been a penalty against Sherman. Any other corner in the league it's called a defensive hold or illegal contact. But there's a separate set of rules for Sherman. He literally knocks Brown down. Off his feet. And Ben throws to a predetermined spot. At worst without the mugging it's a 50/50 ball and the most likely result is an incompletion. But because Sherman is allowed to throw AB down he's all alone to make the pick. anyone who faults Ben for this pick is a moron. If Ben doesn't throw these sort of passes we have no offense. Again moron!!!!!

There was one obvious goat in this game, and it was Tomlin . The fake fg call was ridiculous, game changing, and put wind in the sails of the Seahawk offense. I'm not saying that was a terrible idea. Except it was simply because the quarter changed and the Seahawks were able to distinguish who came onto the field and were waiting for it. In a normal situation that might work. But showing you're going to go for it before the quarter change put the Seahawks on alert. They were ready for the play. It failed, it not only took 3 (potential) points off the board, it changed the games flow and momentum.

But worse than that was kicking the fg from the 3 yard line down by 5 points. First off you have about a 50/50 chance of taking the lead there. But even if you fail, you give them possession inside the 5 with two time outs and the two minute warning in your pocket. Teams play tight inside their own 5. If they get the first down and finish you off take your hat off and applaud them. But don;t be a pussy and kick the fg from the 3! It was beyond stupid! Tomlin was the goat today! Period.

[fansince'76]

A few things.

Anyone who thinks Ben is a goat. You're an idiot.

Consider the source, Zu. The dude ONLY shows up after losses. Weak fucking sauce.

[zulater]

Hey Edman. When Ben throws the ball on the second pick he's supposed to know AB will be on the ground 20 yards short of where the ball is because...?

Seriously could you have less of a clue? If Ben only threw to receivers who he knew were wide open before he ever threw a pass he would be Tim Tebow or Mike Vick. Call him a goat again why don't you?

Idiot!

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Finesse football has never worked for Pittsburgh, yet they still force it.

My god did the D get exposed today. And exposed by a very pedestrian offense. They made Wilson look like Tom Brady. I watch enough of the Hawks to tell you straight up that this is a very poor offense and they absolutely shredded them.

Ben? I rest my case. He's just not a big game QB anymore. Sure the numbers are there in yard. But where are TDs? He struggled to find guys all day and took way too long to get his read. Credit Seattle's corners for some of that but man look at the way the lowly Carson Palmer tore them to pieces.

Tomlin. Idiot chief in charge. Fake field goal cost them dearly. Then when Ben comes up short on the 2, he tucks his tail in and goes for three. What happened to playing aggressive? Never mind aggressive how about smart? You know the D cant stop a plucked chicken falling into the fryer but he still strangely relies upon them to get the stop! Man, can this numskull coach or what?

You lost the internet. You're a moron. Go root for the Browns moron.

[fansince'76]

Hey Edman. When Ben throws the ball on the second pick he's supposed to know AB will be on the ground 20 yards short of where the ball is because...?

I wasn't talking about Edman, either, incidentally. There's only one person in this thread that called Ben a goat in today's game and it wasn't Edman.

[86WARD]

A few things.

Anyone who thinks Ben is a goat. You're an idiot. No more needs to be said, but I'll say this anyway. The first interception the ball slipped out of Ben's hands.this either just was one of those things, or came about because Ben saw the db in position to make a play and tried to pull up on the pass and it slipped out. Either way when you;re passing in tight windows against a good team this will eventually happen. The second interception, it should have been a penalty against Sherman. Any other corner in the league it's called a defensive hold or illegal contact. But there's a separate set of rules for Sherman. He literally knocks Brown down. Off his feet. And Ben throws to a predetermined spot. At worst without the mugging it's a 50/50 ball and the most likely result is an incompletion. But because Sherman is allowed to throw AB down he's all alone to make the pick. anyone who faults Ben for this pick is a moron. If Ben doesn't throw these sort of passes we have no offense. Again moron!!!!!

There was one obvious goat in this game, and it was Tomlin . The fake fg call was ridiculous, game changing, and put wind in the sails of the Seahawk offense. I'm not saying that was a terrible idea. Except it was simply because the quarter changed and the Seahawks were able to distinguish who came onto the field and were waiting for it. In a normal situation that might work. But showing you're going to go for it before the quarter change put the Seahawks on alert. They were ready for the play. It failed, it not only took 3 (potential) points off the board, it changed the games flow and momentum.

But worse than that was kicking the fg from the 3 yard line down by 5 points. First off you have about a 50/50 chance of taking the lead there. But even if you fail, you give them possession inside the 5 with two time outs and the two minute warning in your pocket. Teams play tight inside their own 5. If they get the first down and finish you off take your hat off and applaud them. But don;t be a pussy and kick the fg from the 3! It was beyond stupid! Tomlin was the goat today! Period.

All of this! QFT.

[zulater]

I wasn't talking about Edman, either, incidentally. There's only one person in this thread that called Ben a goat in today's game and it wasn't Edman.

Actually he did, in the OP.

Generally speaking I respect Edman though. I do think he tends to point the finger of blame at Ben way too quickly. But he also has shown that he realizes that Ben is essential to mission. He gets it. But he did single out Ben for the two picks. And while I can see it from a box score perspective, but having actually seen the game those interceptions came about for a reason. And Ben wasn't it.

[Steeldude]

The defense looked the same to me as it did all year.

Williams and Wheaton played well. BR played well too. The one INT was his fault because it popped out on his fake pump. The other one wasn't because Sherman is allowed to hold and push.

[dduc996]

If the Steelers had won this thread wouldnt have any hating on Tomlin, Ben , Haley , or forum members. We be hootin about "how great thou are".
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[steelerdude15]

If the Steelers had won this thread wouldnt have any hating on Tomlin, Ben , Haley , or forum members. We be hootin about "how great thou are".
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I doubt it. Even if the Steelers had won, many of us would have still pointed out players or coaches who did poorly.

[86WARD]

If the Steelers had won this thread wouldnt have any hating on Tomlin, Ben , Haley , or forum members. We be hootin about "how great thou are".

Still would question some of Tomlin's decisions though.

[Psycho Ward 86]

if this loss convinces the coaching staff to finally start Boykin, ill chalk it up as a win

[Mojouw]

The defense looked the same to me as it did all year.

Williams and Wheaton played well. BR played well too. The one INT was his fault because it popped out on his fake pump. The other one wasn't because Sherman is allowed to hold and push.

Great post. Couldn't agree more.

[zoneblitzerII]

A few things.

Anyone who thinks Ben is a goat. You're an idiot. No more needs to be said, but I'll say this anyway. The first interception the ball slipped out of Ben's hands.this either just was one of those things, or came about because Ben saw the db in position to make a play and tried to pull up on the pass and it slipped out. Either way when you;re passing in tight windows against a good team this will eventually happen. The second interception, it should have been a penalty against Sherman. Any other corner in the league it's called a defensive hold or illegal contact. But there's a separate set of rules for Sherman. He literally knocks Brown down. Off his feet. And Ben throws to a predetermined spot. At worst without the mugging it's a 50/50 ball and the most likely result is an incompletion. But because Sherman is allowed to throw AB down he's all alone to make the pick. anyone who faults Ben for this pick is a moron. If Ben doesn't throw these sort of passes we have no offense. Again moron!!!!!

There was one obvious goat in this game, and it was Tomlin . The fake fg call was ridiculous, game changing, and put wind in the sails of the Seahawk offense. I'm not saying that was a terrible idea. Except it was simply because the quarter changed and the Seahawks were able to distinguish who came onto the field and were waiting for it. In a normal situation that might work. But showing you're going to go for it before the quarter change put the Seahawks on alert. They were ready for the play. It failed, it not only took 3 (potential) points off the board, it changed the games flow and momentum.

But worse than that was kicking the fg from the 3 yard line down by 5 points. First off you have about a 50/50 chance of taking the lead there. But even if you fail, you give them possession inside the 5 with two time outs and the two minute warning in your pocket. Teams play tight inside their own 5. If they get the first down and finish you off take your hat off and applaud them. But don;t be a pussy and kick the fg from the 3! It was beyond stupid! Tomlin was the goat today! Period.

Ben is not a big game QB anymore. Period. End of story. Unless a guy was wide open today, he couldn't hit them. He had the yips. He had all day to throw and couldn't carve jack. Wasn't all his fault as some of his receivers choked early on with easy dropped balls. Way too many dropped. But Ben could've came back to hit the long ball but he didn't. His long balls sucked. There was too inaccurate with way too much air under them. If he had led them like the way a proper QB should they would've had at least two more TDs and won this game. Haley knows this. They keep dialling up the long ball but Ben can't throw it worth a damn. He needs to go back and watch film of Bradshaw to see how you really throw the bomb.

[fansince'76]

[SteelMayhem72]

I think our window is closing rapidly...bens is taking way too many hits...this season is done imo. Probably gonna be kc and jets/texans in wild card spots. Even if we were to back out way in nobody will beat the pats

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[Steel Peon]

Wheaton and Williams did stellar on offense, while Heyward and Tuitt controlled the LOS nicely. Ben was accurate, but threw too many stupid balls.

The goats are everyone else, including the coaching staff. The refs sucked donkey nuts as well, who either didn't call obvious penalties on Seattle, or called some BS ones on us, all while refusing to allow hardly any calls to go our way.

[zulater]

Ben is not a big game QB anymore. Period. End of story. Unless a guy was wide open today, he couldn't hit them. He had the yips. He had all day to throw and couldn't carve jack. Wasn't all his fault as some of his receivers choked early on with easy dropped balls. Way too many dropped. But Ben could've came back to hit the long ball but he didn't. His long balls sucked. There was too inaccurate with way too much air under them. If he had led them like the way a proper QB should they would've had at least two more TDs and won this game. Haley knows this. They keep dialling up the long ball but Ben can't throw it worth a damn. He needs to go back and watch film of Bradshaw to see how you really throw the bomb.

If I was a moderator you would be gone for the moron factor. I mean why do you use valuable oxygen that others on this planet could use? Seriously, you are really that dumb.

[B&GFever]

Ben is not a big game QB anymore. Period. End of story. Unless a guy was wide open today, he couldn't hit them. He had the yips. He had all day to throw and couldn't carve jack. Wasn't all his fault as some of his receivers choked early on with easy dropped balls. Way too many dropped. But Ben could've came back to hit the long ball but he didn't. His long balls sucked. There was too inaccurate with way too much air under them. If he had led them like the way a proper QB should they would've had at least two more TDs and won this game. Haley knows this. They keep dialling up the long ball but Ben can't throw it worth a damn. He needs to go back and watch film of Bradshaw to see how you really throw the bomb.

36-55-456 yards seems to say otherwise

[zulater]

I think our window is closing rapidly...bens is taking way too many hits...this season is done imo. Probably gonna be kc and jets/texans in wild card spots. Even if we were to back out way in nobody will beat the pats

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Well then why don't you go be a Pats fan then.

The stupidity is burning tonight.

[SteelMayhem72]

Ummmm....just stating whats happening. I hate the pats but put things in perspective here. You obviously must not watch our secondary. Johnny football and russel wilson carve us up do you not think brady wouldnt again??? You are right, stupidy is burning tonight.

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[steelreserve]

Blake, Tomlin for continuing to start Blake. Can't cover, shitty shoulder tackling - I mean, what on earth is keeping this guy in the lineup? It's moving into Dri-Archer-animal-porn-blackmail territory.

The entire secondary for sucking shitty garbage. If you score 30 points on offense, you should win the game.

It's hard to argue with almost 500 yards passing, but I was scratching my head at why we didn't run the ball more. Williams was effective!

Oh yeah, and the clock management sucked donkey dick again at the end of the game.

[zulater]

Ummmm....just stating whats happening. I hate the pats but put things in perspective here. You obviously must not watch our secondary. Johnny football and russel wilson carve us up do you not think brady wouldnt again??? You are right, stupidy is burning tonight.

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We lost a close fought contest to the Seahawks in their building. We are tied in actual wins and losses for a wild card spot. We have five games left. And yu;ve declared the season over.

You're a moron.

[SteelMayhem72]

We lost a close fought contest to the Seahawks in their building. We are tied in actual wins and losses for a wild card spot. We have five games left. And yu;ve declared the season over.

You're a moron.

You are a moron if you think we are a playoff caliber team. Whether we back our way in or not its not gonna matter. Unless something drastically changes we are not going anywhere. If you wanna hold on to that hope to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside then go ahead brother,you will be in for a big let down. Im more of a realist and the truth is this is NOT our season. This is all my HONEST OPINION...but if you wanna call me a moron then you must not be watching the same games everybody else is. You resort to name calling because you dont like my opinion then you can gladly FUCK OFF!

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[zulater]

You are a moron if you think we are a playoff caliber team. Whether we back our way in or not its not gonna matter. Unless something drastically changes we are not going anywhere. If you wanna hold on to that hope to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside then go ahead brother,you will be in for a big let down. Im more of a realist and the truth is this is NOT our season. This is all my HONEST OPINION...but if you wanna call me a moron then you must not be watching the same games everybody else is. You resort to name calling because you dont like my opinion then you can gladly FUCK OFF!

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When the Steeler make the playoffs and advance go fuck yourself and never post here again.

[Edman]

Hey Edman. When Ben throws the ball on the second pick he's supposed to know AB will be on the ground 20 yards short of where the ball is because...?

Seriously could you have less of a clue? If Ben only threw to receivers who he knew were wide open before he ever threw a pass he would be Tim Tebow or Mike Vick. Call him a goat again why don't you?

Idiot!

According to that logic, how could Tomlin not know Landry Jones was going to throw a pick on the fake play? What if it was incomplete and just a turnover on downs? Why is Tomlin a goat and Ben not?

Ben is certainly essential to the mission, but I told you, I can't absolve him of accountability. Those interceptions play a HUGE role in dooming the Steelers today. Second to our terrible defense, who is a much bigger goat.

It doesn't make a difference though, the Steelers lost the game and basically have to win out. That's the sad reality at the end of the day.

Accidental or not, you can't turn the turn over four times and have shitty tackling on defense and expect to win games. It's frustrating because because that's what it took for the Steelers to lose to the defending NFC Champions in their own building.

[SteelMayhem72]

Ill be the first back here and admit im wrong and be pleasantly surprised but you on the other hand when and if we do get eliminated are the one thats gonna be let down. Im done getting my hopes up for this team and coaches...not worth it...id rather be surprised instead of let down.

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[st33lersguy]

I think we need to start playing Boykin. Couldn't possibly be worse than Antwon Blake (a traffic cone could play better than Antwon Blake)

[SteelMayhem72]

The stats on the D especially does not and should not get anybodys hopes up. If you cant win when you score 30 points then theres nothing to be hopeful about

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[SteelMayhem72]

Blake, Tomlin for continuing to start Blake. Can't cover, shitty shoulder tackling - I mean, what on earth is keeping this guy in the lineup? It's moving into Dri-Archer-animal-porn-blackmail territory.

The entire secondary for sucking shitty garbage. If you score 30 points on offense, you should win the game.

It's hard to argue with almost 500 yards passing, but I was scratching my head at why we didn't run the ball more. Williams was effective!

Oh yeah, and the clock management sucked donkey dick again at the end of the game.

Amen brother!

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[MrPgh]

This game proved nobody in the organization holds Tomlin accountable.