Ben is getting an MRI on his sprained foot

[stillers4me]

And he's still managed to get his team to 3 superbowls.

[zulater]

Hmmmmm. It is almost like that is a recycled list from a bullshit website. For instance, Roethlisberger played in the regular season against the Jets in 2010 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301219023). In the 2006 Ravens game he missed one drive when the team was down by over 3 scores (http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0612240pit.htm). In 2009, he may have left the game, but he missed no significant time - take a look at the box scores (http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0909270cin.htm and http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0911150pit.htm). The game recap from 2010 makes no mention of Roethlisberger getting injured against Miami (http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301024015).

So, can we at least have this debate based on facts. Here is the best website I have turned up with the actual injury reports and games missed - http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/ben-ro...gh-stee/nS5dc/

Craic doesn't seem to understand the difference between hurt and injured.

They all get hurt all the time. But if they're playing they're not injured.

[86WARD]

What player isn't hurting by Week 3?

[Craic]

Hmmmmm. It is almost like that is a recycled list from a bullshit website. For instance, Roethlisberger played in the regular season against the Jets in 2010 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301219023). In the 2006 Ravens game he missed one drive when the team was down by over 3 scores (http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0612240pit.htm). In 2009, he may have left the game, but he missed no significant time - take a look at the box scores (http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0909270cin.htm and http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0911150pit.htm). The game recap from 2010 makes no mention of Roethlisberger getting injured against Miami (http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301024015).

So, can we at least have this debate based on facts. Here is the best website I have turned up with the actual injury reports and games missed - http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/ben-ro...gh-stee/nS5dc/

thanks, that site makes my point even better.

- - - Updated - - -

Craic doesn't seem to understand the difference between hurt and injured.

They all get hurt all the time. But if they're playing they're not injured.

Naa, I just understand that in the English Language, injury and hurt mean the same thing.

verb (used with object), hurt, hurting. 1. to cause bodily injury to; injure: He was badly hurt in the accident.

EDIT: Zu - this post of mine seems to come across extremely rude towards you. I don't mean it that way. Just can't seem to rephrase it for some reason. Probably too tired.

[SteelMember]

...Frickin drama queen.

[Steelman]

Saw a report saying Ben hasn't ruled himself out this week and said he felt a lot better even just the next day. Good sign even if he doesn't play against Cleveland. He should be ready to go for Seattle.

[teegre]

Saw a report saying Ben hasn't ruled himself out this week and said he felt a lot better even just the next day. Good sign even if he doesn't play against Cleveland. He should be ready to go for Seattle.

Best news that I've heard all day.

[Steelman]

Well, I couldn't find that particular report. But here's Tomlin's take on it, which is overall a little depressing.

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/201...gelo-williams/

[teegre]

Well, I couldn't find that particular report. But here's Tomlin's take on it, which is overall a little depressing.

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/201...gelo-williams/

I'll take "slightly ajar" over "locked, deadbolted, & guarded by sentry" any day of the week.

As you said, if the door is "slightly ajar" right now, it should be "wide open" by the Seattle game.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Saw a report saying Ben hasn't ruled himself out this week and said he felt a lot better even just the next day. Good sign even if he doesn't play against Cleveland. He should be ready to go for Seattle.

this foot injury may have been a blessing in disguise as this rest may now help his knee to heal more also...

[zulater]

thanks, that site makes my point even better.

- - - Updated - - -



Naa, I just understand that in the English Language, injury and hurt mean the same thing.



EDIT: Zu - this post of mine seems to come across extremely rude towards you. I don't mean it that way. Just can't seem to rephrase it for some reason. Probably too tired.

Not to worry I'm not taking anything personally Craic.


I just don't think Ben's more injury prone than most qb's. In fact I think he's proved more durable than the vast majority of his peers. Missing a total of 14 starts (including the upcoming Browns game) due to injury in a 12 year career isn't bad in my opinion. Obviously there's been a handful of games where his play was diminished due to an assorted array of hurts. But again most NFL players never see a 12th season. And prior to this season he had a pretty remarkable run of staying healthy. I'll chalk up this current spate of injuries to just a bad run of luck. I think he's as likely as any NFL qb to have an injury free 16.

[Craic]

Not to worry I'm not taking anything personally Craic.


I just don't think Ben's more injury prone than most qb's. In fact I think he's proved more durable than the vast majority of his peers. Missing a total of 14 starts (including the upcoming Browns game) due to injury in a 12 year career isn't bad in my opinion. Obviously there's been a handful of games where his play was diminished due to an assorted array of hurts. But again most NFL players never see a 12th season. And prior to this season he had a pretty remarkable run of staying healthy. I'll chalk up this current spate of injuries to just a bad run of luck. I think he's as likely as any NFL qb to have an injury free 16.

I'd agree about 90 percent. I think his "extend the play" style tends to leave him open for a few more injuries than the average QB, but with that said, he's also shown an ability to play through nagging injuries in his career. It's the ones that make him sit that seem to make it hard for him to play well when he returns. I hope he doesn't have to sit this week, only because it'll take a game or two for him to again hit top speed, and we need him at top speed every week from this point on.

[steelreserve]

I'd agree about 90 percent. I think his "extend the play" style tends to leave him open for a few more injuries than the average QB, but with that said, he's also shown an ability to play through nagging injuries in his career. It's the ones that make him sit that seem to make it hard for him to play well when he returns. I hope he doesn't have to sit this week, only because it'll take a game or two for him to again hit top speed, and we need him at top speed every week from this point on.

Yeah, but on the other hand - how many of his injuries come from "extending the play?" Most of the time he's gotten his ass kicked has been while he's standing in the pocket, or after he's made a simple move to avoid pressure in a collapsing pocket, like any QB would do.

The injuries don't come when he's done one of his "signature moves" of shaking off a tackle and scrambling left or right - at that point, usually one guy has a chance to tackle you and he doesn't blow you up by surprise. All the injuries happen when he's in the heavily-congested area in the middle of the field, and there are 10 guys diving around and getting knocked over constantly all around him. In other words, the area where the quarterback normally is anyway.

Does he possibly expose himself to more hits by holding onto the ball longer on ordinary plays? There maybe people have an argument. But that's when he's also super-effective. Take every one of those plays away and replace it with an incompletion thrown away out of bounds "so he can play safer," and what do you have? Probably something like Sam Bradford or Nick Foles.

[86WARD]

That's a good question...what injuries have been in the pocket and what injuries occurred extending the play. I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet the majority were in the pocket...