Raider game

[TeeTee]

All of my Steeler fans feel this game is a lock for a Pgh W. I am not as sure.

The Raiders seem to beat us even when we are supposedly good and they are bad.

Consider....

Derek Carr - 65% completion %, 105 rating. 15 Tds to 3 int. He's good and getting better.
RB Murray - 536 yards, 4.6 apc. Not bad.
WRs Crabtree and Cooper - both solid, Cooper just a rookie but looking like a player bordering on dominant soon. Crabtree has incredible hands.

K - Janikowski - still one of the best out there.

D - Mack and Malcolm Smith can cause problems.

Coach - Del Rio knows us well from J-Ville days. He is a decent coach and this team is one of the surprises of the season. They are 4-3 with some dominant wins.

Might Ben, Brown, Bryant, Wheaton, Miller and Williams get back in a groove and put up big points? They could. But if we stay with Haley calling the plays, I think we are in trouble. We managed to put up a measly 10 points last week. That ain't gonna cut it for this game.

[Mach1]

The "season is over".

[TeeTee]

The "season is over".

In terms of truly contending for a Championship? I think so. Without Bell, we don't beat Denver or NE. Not with Haley calling the plays. He's just not good at it.

[Rotorhead]

The "season is over".

LOL

We will win this game, and most of the time we are playing on the west coast against them. This is a home game and Ben will have the rust gone, another week with his WR's and a full week of DW to be ready. I am not worried about their offense (or their def honestly) as our def has stopped the top 3 offenses this season. As long as our offense doesnt get in its own way, and or def plays as well as last week, this is our game.

[steelreserve]

The Raiders have the better record this year; therefore, it is a virtual certainty that we will beat them in the most frustrating fashion possible.

[hawaiiansteeler]

[TeeTee]

Well, at least they have a winning record so we have a chance. If they were 1-6 we'd have no hope, not with Shades of Cool running the show.

[MarineRaider]

Raider fan here-I think it will be a decent game, however it could also turn into a blowout for either side. My Raiders have been destroying teams in the first half and then coasting to a victory for 2 weeks straight. Time will tell....here is to an injury free game.

[tube517]

[MarineRaider]

The no-nonsense coach Oakland needed to help bring about the resurgence.

[TeeTee]

The no-nonsense coach Oakland needed to help bring about the resurgence.

Del Rio is not a bad coach; he was hampered in J-Ville by an incompetent GM. It's near impossible to build a good team when your personnel decisions - including the draft - are dog shit. Del Rio was coach from 2003-2011 (fired in Nov. in 2011).

Look at the horrible drafts they had in that time.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../jax/draft.htm

A few good players here and there, but for the most part, even their first round picks were horrid. Matt Jones, Blaine Gabbert, Derrick Harvey, Reggie Williams.....plus almost no one decent after their first rounders. Drew-Jones was one of the very few hits in that span. You can't win with drafts that terrible. I think he is on a good track in Oakland. He has changed the team philosophy into a winning culture.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Del Rio is not a bad coach

it was unfortunate how he got "axed" in Jacksonville...

[tube517]

it was unfortunate how he got "axed" in Jacksonville...

Yeah, but did you see his shades that I posted?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Yeah, but did you see his shades that I posted?

no, just shows a blue ?

[TeeTee]

it was unfortunate how he got "axed" in Jacksonville...

In the end, it's probably better he got out. Until they changed GMs, he had zero hope for success. But his decision to have an ax in the locker room wasn't too well thought out. I mean, what could go wrong? 350 lb monsters swinging an ax inside. Dudes fueled on mad testosterone probably don't need to be swinging an ax around.

[Mach1]

LOL

We will win this game, and most of the time we are playing on the west coast against them. This is a home game and Ben will have the rust gone, another week with his WR's and a full week of DW to be ready. I am not worried about their offense (or their def honestly) as our def has stopped the top 3 offenses this season. As long as our offense doesnt get in its own way, and or def plays as well as last week, this is our game.

I'm not to worried about it. Ben will be back to being Ben and this D should get a pick or two against Carr.

If it were an away game I'm a bit more worried. Lol

[Steeldude]

A must win against a team they should beat. Gee, how will Tomlin prepare the team? History shows a lethargic Steelers' team coming out.

[teegre]

In the end, it's probably better he got out. Until they changed GMs, he had zero hope for success. But his decision to have an ax in the locker room wasn't too well thought out. I mean, what could go wrong? 350 lb monsters swinging an ax inside. Dudes fueled on mad testosterone probably don't need to be swinging an ax around.

That... was funny.

[86WARD]

A must win against a team they should beat. Gee, how will Tomlin prepare the team? History shows a lethargic Steelers' team coming out.

It does have that recipe doesn't it. 17-16 win/loss...

[ALLD]

Who ever gets a 10 point lead by halftime should win the game.

[st33lersguy]

The fact that the Raiders are 4-3 gives the Steelers an advantage. Maybe Tomlin will actually take the Raiders seriously this time

[86WARD]

Tomlin probably doesn't take the opponent into consideration. He probably just view them as a different group of men in different color uniforms trying to defend their grass at the same time his men are preparing to defend every blade of grass.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Tomlin probably doesn't take the opponent into consideration. He probably just view them as a different group of men in different color uniforms trying to defend their grass at the same time his men are preparing to defend every blade of grass.

"We have to be able to flush it out, move forward and understand the next snap is the most important. I don't care about the style points, it's time to go to the mattresses if you will. We can't let go of the rope, anyone in a helmet is a playmaker for us.

We're a battle hardened group, at this stage of the journey we’ll see where we are. What’s paramount is we play fast, we play hard and we play with urgency. The proof is in the pudding, the good teams, the dominant teams, aren't necessarily dominant in stadiums, but they are dominant largely in moments, when they do what's required to get out of stadiums with victories..."

[Psycho Ward 86]

dont forget Charles Woodson, who's leading the lead in interceptions right now (5) and is somehow a Defensive Player of the Year candidate at 39.

cant help but admire the ageless wonder

[silver & black]

Del Rio is not a bad coach; he was hampered in J-Ville by an incompetent GM. It's near impossible to build a good team when your personnel decisions - including the draft - are dog shit. Del Rio was coach from 2003-2011 (fired in Nov. in 2011).

Look at the horrible drafts they had in that time.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../jax/draft.htm

A few good players here and there, but for the most part, even their first round picks were horrid. Matt Jones, Blaine Gabbert, Derrick Harvey, Reggie Williams.....plus almost no one decent after their first rounders. Drew-Jones was one of the very few hits in that span. You can't win with drafts that terrible. I think he is on a good track in Oakland. He has changed the team philosophy into a winning culture.

LOL!... he's got it just as bad or worse in Oakland. Reggie McKenzie is a mumbling, bumbling fool.

[86WARD]

dont forget Charles Woodson, who's leading the lead in interceptions right now (5) and is somehow a Defensive Player of the Year candidate at 39.

cant help but admire the ageless wonder

Oakland seems to have a knack finding those ageless guys. They can't fill a roster but every now and again, they hit on a good one...usually with the last name Woodson...

[NCSteeler]

I'm not to worried about it. Ben will be back to being Ben and this D should get a pick or two against Carr.

If it were an away game I'm a bit more worried. Lol

Ben is 1-5 in second games back from injury, I think I'll hold my enthusiasm


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[86WARD]

Ben is 1-5 in second games back from injury, I think I'll hold my enthusiasm


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So 2-5 in first game back and 1-5 in second game back...great news...

[MarineRaider]

I was unaware of that stat-bodes well for my team, but one never knows. I like our chances though.

[tube517]

Since Ben took over as QB, he's only beaten the Raiders once.