For those wanting Dri Archer to be cut...

[zulater]

So the Steelers missed on some third round picks, they also hit huge on some later round picks. If Antonio Brown had been drafted in the third round as opposed to the 6th round is anyone bitching? Same with Kelvin Beachum, and Martavis Bryant. I mean I just don't get it sometimes. For example we probably come out of the 13 draft with the best player in the entire draft.(LeVeon Bell) But because we took him in the 2nd round it supposedly doesn't count to the naysayers among'st us. No, all they want to do is bitch about our first round pick.

What's done is done. The Steelers have missed on some picks no doubt. But the overall talent level is still in the top 1/3 of the league this despite usually drafting at the bottom third of every round. So it's not all bad folks.

My opinion, the third round picks, just a coincidental run of bad luck associated with a particular round. I don't think it's any less likely they nab a top flight player in the third round in next year's draft than any other team.

File this one in the category, shit happens.

[86WARD]

Bryant should have been a 3rd-round pick. The Steelers got lucky he was there in the 4th...lol.

[teegre]

Gore and Snyder are outside the period we are comparing. Culliver is now a Redskin, so he can't count for the 49'ers either. Neither can McDonald since the team released him and so did his subsequent team (Bears). So now we are talking about Bowman and Borland. This is the track record that beats the Steelers over the same 7 year period? Not sure I see how that argument comes together - unless you are simply dedicated to be pessimistic.

You're wasting your time with him on this topic. I've spent hours (literally) discussing drafts with him, and this is the one area where I've made zero headway with him. Usually he's pretty amenable to seeing the opposing side of things, but for whatever reason, he digs his heels in when it comes to the draft.

As Zu said: he'd rather focus on Jarvis Jones, rather than acknowledge Le'Veon Bell.

Likewise, if you ever mention AB, he'll bring up Jason Worilds.

SUMMATION:
Unless every single pick in a draft is a first-ballot HOFer, it's a "bad" draft. Oh well.

[TeeTee]

You're wasting your time with him on this topic. I've spent hours (literally) discussing drafts with him, and this is the one area where I've made zero headway with him. Usually he's pretty amenable to seeing the opposing side of things, but for whatever reason, he digs his heels in when it comes to the draft.

As Zu said: he'd rather focus on Jarvis Jones, rather than acknowledge Le'Veon Bell.

Likewise, if you ever mention AB, he'll bring up Jason Worilds.

SUMMATION:
Unless every single pick in a draft is a first-ballot HOFer, it's a "bad" draft. Oh well.

[teegre]

Are you really going to trolle in every thread?

Ugh.

[86WARD]

Just for the record, I was wasting some time today and downloaded the mobile Madden App and am trying to build my team up and got stuck with Archer at RB and he's actually a stud in the game...lol. Once he gets to the outside, it's a minimum 20 yard gain.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Just for the record, I was wasting some time today and downloaded the mobile Madden App and am trying to build my team up and got stuck with Archer at RB and he's actually a stud in the game...lol. Once he gets to the outside, it's a minimum 20 yard gain.

Dri Archer is FAST!

can't blame him that Haley doesn't know how to design plays to get him outside...

FIRE Haley!!!

[Count Steeler]

Dri Archer is FAST!

can't blame him that Haley doesn't know how to design plays to get him outside...

FIRE Haley!!!

Unfortunately, a leaf blowing in the wind has a better chance of missing tackles than Archer ever did. I swear the passing breeze of a defender would knock him over.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Just for the record, I was wasting some time today and downloaded the mobile Madden App and am trying to build my team up and got stuck with Archer at RB and he's actually a stud in the game...lol. Once he gets to the outside, it's a minimum 20 yard gain.

I play Madden and Archer's card is crazy good because of his speed. I play Ultimate Team and have his upgraded Most Feared card that I use for PR/KR and Toss plays. He's a pretty easy 2 pt conversion on a toss almost every time.

[teegre]

Unfortunately, a leaf blowing in the wind has a better chance of missing tackles than Archer ever did. I swear the passing breeze of a defender would knock him over.

Beyond that, he played scared.

A kick returner has to almost be a little "crazy". He has to run at full speed with absolutely no hesitation.

If Archer had gotten the ball, run immediately, with zero hesitation, he probably would have gotten to the 25 or farther every single time. Alas, he played scared, hesitated, never ran at full speed (negating his only asset), and once another player got anywhere near him, he fell (almost as if he was afraid to get hit).

[SteelerFanInStl]

Beyond that, he played scared.

A kick returner has to almost be a little "crazy". He has to run at full speed with absolutely no hesitation.

If Archer had gotten the ball, run immediately, with zero hesitation, he probably would have gotten to the 25 or farther every single time. Alas, he played scared, hesitated, never ran at full speed (negating his only asset), and once another player got anywhere near him, he fell (almost as if he was afraid to get hit).

I think "fearless" would be a better word for it and I agree, Archer doesn't run like that. He also doesn't have the field vision or the quick twitch elusiveness that's needed to be a great returner in the NFL.

[ALLD]

Archer was the best cake topper we ever had.

[NCSteeler]

You can't compare 49ers draft picks with the Steelers. For many of the years you are talking about 49ers were drafting in the upper 60s in the third round and the Steelers usually are in the upper 80s, 90s. So if Cleveland constantly drafts 33rd 34th they have a great record on 2nd round picks, Thats BS APPLES and bananas

[86WARD]

You can't compare 49ers draft picks with the Steelers. For many of the years you are talking about 49ers were drafting in the upper 60s in the third round and the Steelers usually are in the upper 80s, 90s. So if Cleveland constantly drafts 33rd 34th they have a great record on 2nd round picks, Thats BS APPLES and bananas

Browns 2nd Round Picks since 2000...

Joel Bitonio
Mitchell Schwartz
Greg Little
Jabaal Sheard
Montario Hardesty
T.J. Ward
Brian Robiskie
Mohamed Massaquoi
Eric Wright
D'Qwell Jackson
Brodney Pool
Sean Jones
Chaun Thompson
Andre Davis
Quincy Morgan
Dennis Northcutt

[NCSteeler]

Browns 2nd Round Picks since 2000...

Joel Bitonio
Mitchell Schwartz
Greg Little
Jabaal Sheard
Montario Hardesty
T.J. Ward
Brian Robiskie
Mohamed Massaquoi
Eric Wright
D'Qwell Jackson
Brodney Pool
Sean Jones
Chaun Thompson
Andre Davis
Quincy Morgan
Dennis Northcutt

Damn that's ugly

[NCSteeler]

So , No stats, but the eyeball test passes on Jacoby. He looks much better after getting acclimated . MUCH better than anything we have seen fro Dri.

[SteelerFanInStl]

So , No stats, but the eyeball test passes on Jacoby. He looks much better after getting acclimated . MUCH better than anything we have seen fro Dri.

I agree. He's getting some return yardage now.

[steelreserve]

If he can just hold on to the fucking ball. He nearly lost it again this week. Fix that and it's a nice step forward, although there's less than zero chance he's back next year regardless.

I wasn't a fan of his decision to run it out of the end zone with 2:01 remaining and thereby waste the 2-minute warning (and get tackled at the 16), but I guess if you think the possible payoff of a big play outweighs that, it could go both ways.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Browns 2nd Round Picks since 2000...

Joel Bitonio
Mitchell Schwartz
Greg Little
Jabaal Sheard
Montario Hardesty
T.J. Ward
Brian Robiskie
Mohamed Massaquoi
Eric Wright
D'Qwell Jackson
Brodney Pool
Sean Jones
Chaun Thompson
Andre Davis
Quincy Morgan
Dennis Northcutt

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[Hawkman]

Back to topic........J Jones is getting better for us.....maybe he's talking to his blockers. He is going to break one for us! Just wait and see!

[86WARD]

He's starting to look more comfortable but I still think there is a critical fumble coming from him in the very near future...

[teegre]

If he can just hold on to the fucking ball. He nearly lost it again this week.

Yep.
I hold my breath every time that he fields the ball.

[Shoes]

Yep.
I hold my breath every time that he fields the ball.

I actually expect him to fumble it every time he fields a ball.. Jones seems to do better when he fields the ball and just takes off. He seems to have problems when he hesitates or attempts some fancy footwork. I still don't like this, the team could have faired well with the folks on the roster. It's hard to understand why he's having issues when this is just about all he did in the NFL. Pretty amazing, a guy runs the ball out to the 26 and we get excited.

[teegre]

Pretty amazing, a guy runs the ball out to the 26 and we get excited.

[Count Steeler]

Pretty amazing, a guy runs the ball out to the 26 and we get excited.

If he ever hits the 40, Steelers Nation will asplode, especially if there is no flag.

[tube517]

If he ever hits the 40, Steelers Nation will asplode, especially if there is no flag.

You'll need a royal flush for that to happen. Special teams is truly a hippo fart on killing long returns.

[Hawkman]

You'll need a royal flush for that to happen. Special teams is truly a hippo fart on killing long returns.

Hippo fart?

[86WARD]

He's starting to look more comfortable but I still think there is a critical fumble coming from him in the very near future...

Well that didn't take long...

[steelerdude15]

Marcus Wheaton...

[hawaiiansteeler]

Jacoby Jones will be released this week...