For those wanting Dri Archer to be cut...

[tube517]

What happened to Todman? He could have handled KRs and he's already been pushed out as the #2 RB by Monsieur Touissant.

Kick return unit is just a big hippo fart right now. Wheaton is really the best answer right now. Leave AB at PR.

[steelreserve]

Because Tomlin is so full of himself. Just like Archer and others he doesn't want to admit he made a mistake. Even Belicheat cut harper after a muffed punt return. If jones plays against the Bengals and Broncos, he'll cost the Steelers the game. And Tomlin should be fired on the spot.

Fired and beaten up. Don't forget we need to maintain some amount of decorum.

[ALLD]

The masking tape above Jones' locker should already be peeled off.

[polamalubeast]

Steelers demote Jacoby Jones in favor of Wheaton, Brown


http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12...jones-week-14/

[steelreserve]

Steelers demote Jacoby Jones in favor of Wheaton, Brown


http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12...jones-week-14/

Demoted? What use is there on the roster for a return specialist who can't return? Demoted to the waiver wire is more like it.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Steelers demote Jacoby Jones in favor of Wheaton, Brown


http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12...jones-week-14/

thank god we'll have fucking punt returner depth

[Shoes]

Tomlin's revenge, jones is going to the dog house for that 100k fine.

Why else would you keep him?

[tube517]

Tomlin's revenge, jones is going to the Boykin house for that 100k fine.

Why else would you keep him?

Fixed.

[steelreserve]

Tomlin's revenge, jones is going to the dog house for that 100k fine.

Why else would you keep him?

Because he's now part of the animal porn blackmail ring. Once Archer was cut and Landry Jones turned out to actually be able to play, Cam Thomas got lonely, so he recruited Blake and Jacoby into the scheme.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Jacoby Jones demoted from KR and PR duties by Steelers, not released

By Jeff.Hartman and Dani Bostick on Dec 8, 2015



The Pittsburgh Steelers adjusted their depth chart following Jacoby Jones' two fumbles against the Colts in Week 12. What was surprising is Jones wasn't given his outright release.

Once upon a time, Jacoby Jones was a Baltimore Raven, running down the sidelines towards the endzone as Mike Tomlin looked at the jumbotron in disbelief. When Dri Archer was released earlier in the season, Jacoby Jones became a Pittsburgh Steeler, after a stint with the San Diego Chargers.

On Sunday night, Jones appeared to have oiled his hands, fumbling twice. It wasn't the first time Jones struggled. In other games as a Steeler he either fumbled or appeared dangerously close to fumbling. His best plays were the ones where he simply held onto the ball.

After his wretched performance on Sunday evening, it seemed almost a guarantee that the beleaguered, butterfingered kick returner would be sent packing. After all, he has become the returner version of placekicker Josh Scobee. When he hits the field, fans cross their fingers, hold their breath, and wince in anticipation of an avoidable catastrophe.

Instead, as Bob Labriola reported via Twitter on Tuesday, Jacoby Jones was merely demoted. Markus Wheaton and Antonio Brown are now at the top of the depth chart for kick returns and punt returns.

Jones is taking up space on the roster at a time when, though it is Week 14, the team is struggling to forge an identity in the secondary and have suffered a spate of injuries so extensive at times it appears the team was cursed.

Does Jones really deserve a spot on the roster? It is hard to imagine the Steelers rationale for keeping him on the team after he has proven to be a liability rather than an asset.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...s-not-released

[teegre]

Cut Jones now!!!

Use that spot for Howard Jones.

What??? Oh... use that spot for Delvin Breaux.

New Orlea- what??? Um... use that spot for Josh Mauro.


Nevermind.

[zulater]

Cut Jones now!!!

Use that spot for Howard Jones.

What??? Oh... use that spot for Delvin Breaux.

New Orlea- what??? Um... use that spot for Josh Mauro.


Nevermind.

I'd sooner they use the roster spot on a kickoff man if one's out there to be found. Hell Scobee sucked at fg's but he got touchback depth on kickoff
's almost every time. I wonder if there's a rule against bringing him back? I only half joke. Because seriously Boswell's kickoffs are getting progressively weaker as the season goes on. In a tight game against a good returner that could swing a game to a loss if he doesn't improve. ( he wont, at least not this year)


So I say cut Jones and bring in the kick off cavalcade.

[steelreserve]

There is literally NO reason for him to be here. I'd rather they use the roster spot on a what-the-hell addition at DB or DL, just someone to come in and see if they could play better than, say, Cam Thomas.

Or, maybe Pouncey might actually come back and that's what they're planning on using the spot for, in which case signing some Bozo off the street just for a week or two would be a waste of time.

[SteelMember]

There is literally NO reason for him to be here. I'd rather they use the roster spot on a what-the-hell addition at DB or DL, just someone to come in and see if they could play better than, say, Cam Thomas.

Or, maybe Pouncey might actually come back and that's what they're planning on using the spot for, in which case signing some Bozo off the street just for a week or two would be a waste of time.

I hope it's Pouncey because I'd just as well sign Bozo than keep Jacoby... That guy's got the yips something awful.

[teegre]

I'd sooner they use the roster spot on a kickoff man if one's out there to be found. Hell Scobee sucked at fg's but he got touchback depth on kickoff
's almost every time. I wonder if there's a rule against bringing him back? I only half joke. Because seriously Boswell's kickoffs are getting progressively weaker as the season goes on. In a tight game against a good returner that could swing a game to a loss if he doesn't improve. ( he wont, at least not this year)


So I say cut Jones and bring in the kick off cavalcade.

From 2007-2010ish, the Chargers did just that. Their kicker was accurate, but couldn't kick it into the end-zone.

Many felt it was a waste of a roster spot, but their special teams didn't give up a TD for a long stretch.

[zulater]

From 2007-2010ish, the Chargers did just that. Their kicker was accurate, but couldn't kick it into the end-zone.

Many felt it was a waste of a roster spot, but their special teams didn't give up a TD for a long stretch.

The Ravens used to do it too. They kept the kicker they brought over from Cleveland (was it Stover?) who was pretty clutch on fg's but had too weak a leg to kick off effectively. Again normally I wouldn't propose that sort of use of a roster spot. But it would be way more productive than Jacoby Jones doing absolutely nothing.

[86WARD]

There's some sort of issue Tomlin has with playing free agent veterans...with the exception of Vick and Jones had to be played because that's why he was signed.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Jets sign Dri Archer

Posted by Josh Alper on February 3, 2016



Dri Archer got a lot of notice at the scouting combine in 2014 when he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.26 seconds, which was the fastest of the year and the second-fastest in recent combine history behind Chris Johnson.

That helped Archer become a third-round pick of the Steelers, but he hasn’t able to make that speed translate into a role on offense in the NFL. He had 10 carries for 40 yards and seven catches for 23 yards as a rookie and didn’t have any offensive touches in eight games before being released in November.

Archer will get a second chance to make it work with the Jets. The team announced they signed Archer, who worked out for them in November, to a futures contract on Wednesday. Jets running backs Chris Ivory, Bilal Powell and Stevan Ridley are all headed for free agency, so it’s unclear what the depth chart will look like at the position when the team starts offseason work.

Archer also returned kickoffs for the Steelers, posting an average of 22.4 yards per return over his two years in Pittsburgh. Antonio Cromartie had the most returns for the Jets in 2015, but is a candidate to be released as the Jets get their cap together.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gn-dri-archer/

[ALLD]

Jets must be more desperate than the Steelers or just dumber?

[Count Steeler]

Whats the over/under on how many TDs he will get next year?

If he gets 1, I'll be shocked.

[86WARD]

Whats the over/under on how many TDs he will get next year?

If he gets 1, I'll be shocked.

If he makes the team, I'll be shocked.

[ALLD]

He should go to the CFL or play soccer.

[polamalubeast]

[Count Steeler]

Hmmm. Didn't take them 3 years to figure out he is a waste of a roster spot.

[fansince'76]

Hmmm. Didn't take them 3 years to figure out he is a waste of a roster spot.

The Jets also didn't burn a 3rd round pick on him to satisfy the OC's hard-on for scat backs, either...

[zulater]

The Jets also didn't burn a 3rd round pick on him to satisfy the OC's hard-on for scat backs, either...

It's all relevant to investment how much time you'll give them to prove them self a bust. The Jets used the 6th overall pick on Vernon Gholston. I know people inside their building that were saying it was obviously a wasted pick right from his first mini-camp. Yet despite not so much as one sack at any time in his career it took them 3 full seasons to pull the plug.

Anyway regardless of who called the original shot in drafting him it was clear early in Archer's 2nd season that Haley had determined he was of no use in the offense. He was carried the last season and a half in the hopes that he would net some value as a kick returner. Which of course he didn't. And even if he showed a little in that regard, being as the kickoff has mostly been legislated out of existence in the NFL, that he also couldn't return punts made the futile effort to salvage some value from the pick even more dubious.

[ALLD]

Just looking at his diminutive physical stature should have been enough for the coaches to avoid drafting him.

If I had wings I could fly, but it is physically impossible because I do not.

[Born2Steel]

Sometimes it's about the moments. Archer would not have been a long term player for any team. IF he had been able to learn A play, or be viable in the return game at all, there may have been those moments when he was the player we hoped we had drafted. Those moments never happened for him, not just due to his size, but apparent lack of ability to learn, or maybe want to, to learn. There have been small, speedy players that lasted with a team for a few years and produced. Archer is not one of those guys.

[steelreserve]

Sometimes it's about the moments. Archer would not have been a long term player for any team. IF he had been able to learn A play, or be viable in the return game at all, there may have been those moments when he was the player we hoped we had drafted. Those moments never happened for him, not just due to his size, but apparent lack of ability to learn, or maybe want to, to learn. There have been small, speedy players that lasted with a team for a few years and produced. Archer is not one of those guys.

To be honest, I'm not sure it even mattered if he learned the plays or not. He couldn't get open, couldn't avoid tacklers or run with power, and couldn't see the field or make people miss. That takes receiver, running back, and return man out of your skill set no matter how well you know the playbook. Classic example of a guy who succeeded against small-time competition because of his speed alone, but in the pros, everybody's fast. If he played for a D1 program, I doubt he ever got drafted, or that anyone even heard of him.

[Born2Steel]

typical