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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Blake is to Tomlin what Craig Adams was to Dan Bylsma. Teacher's pet.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPgh View Post
    Would love to see Colbert grow a pair and cut Blake. It seems pretty evident that Colbert and Tomlin were not on the same page with the trade. You don't trade away a draft pick for an area of weakness on your team and not play him.
    Same could be said of Art Rooney.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib

    Boykin said he is "1000 percent sure" he will do what he did the 3 years in Philly if he gets more snaps with Gay's uncertainty

    https://twitter.com/MarkKaboly_Trib

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib

    Boykin said he is "1000 percent sure" he will do what he did the 3 years in Philly if he gets more snaps with Gay's uncertainty

    https://twitter.com/MarkKaboly_Trib

    There you go Mike Tomlin, your move, let him prove it.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    ...with all if these threads.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    We seem to be losing 1-2 starters a week to injury, so I'm sure Boykin will be forced into action at some point if nothing else.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    We seem to be losing 1-2 starters a week to injury, so I'm sure Boykin will be forced into action at some point if nothing else.
    Want to put a wager on that? Next man up seems to have been the mantra of this whole season while losing players left and right, but with Boykin, the only way he gets in there is if he's the last man standing.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Guest: Everybody asks this, but c'mon. Why is Boykin not playing? Will Tomlin ever deviate from his initial "plan?" Staying with Blake now, signing and playing Vick until injury, last year not playing Bryant until injury...

    Gerry Dulac: And I'll tell you what I tell everyone else who asks ALL the time -- because the coaches don't think he's not good enough, not better than the guys in front of him. He has problems staying on his feet and that's not a good way to cover receivers

    fan: Does Tomlin ever admit he was wrong?

    Gerry Dulac: He admits that sometimes you have to make decisions based on the information you have at the time and sometimes those decisions don't work.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201510280178

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    fan: Does Tomlin ever admit he was wrong?

    Gerry Dulac: He admits that sometimes you have to make decisions based on the information you have at the time and sometimes those decisions don't work.

    Which translated means --- no he doesn't.


    Guest:
    Do you think Adams and Cortez are done as steelers?


    Gerry Dulac:
    I think Cortez Allen is. You don't get benched twice and put on IR twice in two years and get a third try. Especially when he is scheduled to count $5.75 million against the cap in 2016. Even if they cut him, he will still count just slightly more than $4 million



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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Boykin played 524 snaps for the Eagles last year and didn't allow a TD on any of his targets.

    has anyone heard why he isn't being given a chance to play?

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    Boykin played 524 snaps for the Eagles last year and didn't allow a TD on any of his targets.

    has anyone heard why he isn't being given a chance to play?
    Of course not! "Minister of Truth" Rooney simply will not allow the media to ask those kinds of questions!

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Of course not! "Minister of Truth" Rooney simply will not allow the media to ask those kinds of questions!
    Look at the facts. Rooneys control local media in a huge way.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Sure...

    NFL Media Access Policy

    If they had their druthers, the coaches would NEVER talk to the media. EVER. I'm sure that a fair number of the players would also follow suit if they could.

    They can't just cut off media access to the team on a whim. If they could, they would.

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    They would be able to cut off "exclusives" though...


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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    by Jim Wexell

    Q: One spot that still makes people nervous is cornerback. We know Will Gay can play and Ross Cockrell seems like a real find. The Brandon Boykin and Antwon Blake situation still seems to be a question. Aren't people still complaining about that?

    AM: Probably. You know, this guy -- and I'm talking about the head coach -- he impressed me early on as being a guy who really makes moves based on his available options. There's that Chris Rock thing about a married man's ability to stay faithful to his wife is directly related to his options. I think in coaching, you can't do things based on "Get him outta there." Who do I have to play instead? Or, he's not that bad but he's keeping this guy who's showing me more off the field. That was Boykin's problem. I mean, when he was brought here, it was all there for him. He was not impressive. And Blake? I mean, he drives fans crazy. I know that. Sometimes me too. But he's a tough guy. He's physical. He makes plays. "Ahhh, but he gives up a cushion." And then he returns one 70 yards against San Diego in a game you had to win, and he gives it to you. Picks off one in the end zone against the Bengals. And there's Cockrell. Boykin? He didn't stand out and these other guys, while they're playing every now and then they're doing this kind of stuff and that's good enough. They're just not going to replace a guy on the hope -- on the hope -- on the hope that this other guy's better. And what's really hurting him, I think, is Gay's so good as an inside slot guy, because that's who he's really competing with. He's not physical enough to play outside cornerback on this team. He's just not. Maybe that made it an iffy trade at the time, I don't know. I liked the trade when it was made. I'll be honest. Everyone now who was saying it was a bad trade, I didn't hear that back in August so I don't want to hear it now. But that's why he's not playing. And if Boykin was a bad move, you've got to give them credit for the Cockrell move, right? Boykin was early in August. We weren't at camp very long yet. I just think they were trying whatever they could try, throw as many bodies at it as you can and let them figure it out. It's OK. I think you can win with this defense, with this secondary, and, really, that's all that it's about.

    Q: Do you ever wonder how they got Cockrell? How Doug Whaley let him go in the first round of cuts?

    AM: I have no idea. I don't know enough about Buffalo's team. Who knows, maybe Rex doesn't like the kind of player that he is. I do know this though: There was an awareness, if I can use that word, an awareness (that) whenever there's a coaching change you watch that team's waiver wire because what this guy likes, that guy doesn't. Sometimes you can get some deals, some bargains, that way. But I don't know enough about Buffalo to give you a decent answer on that.

    http://www.scout.com/nfl/steelers/st...126-answer-man

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Wexell makes some good points on he Boykin situation. Some of the better points out there IMO. I personally would've liked to see more of Boykin on he field in game situations but if the coaching staff thinks he's worse than Blake...then he must be...right?


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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Personally I think it's still a bunch of b.s. but let me ask this question, if Boykin isn't physical enough to play on the outside in our defense, then why in the Hell did we just draft Golson in the 2nd round? It sounds to me like he's destined to be a backup also as long as Gay is on the team. Are they simply planning on letting Gay leave and hope that Golson can step in?
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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    Personally I think it's still a bunch of b.s. but let me ask this question, if Boykin isn't physical enough to play on the outside in our defense, then why in the Hell did we just draft Golson in the 2nd round? It sounds to me like he's destined to be a backup also as long as Gay is on the team. Are they simply planning on letting Gay leave and hope that Golson can step in?
    my guess is that Golson was drafted to be Gay's eventual replacement as the slot corner...

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    Personally I think it's still a bunch of b.s. but let me ask this question, if Boykin isn't physical enough to play on the outside in our defense, then why in the Hell did we just draft Golson in the 2nd round? It sounds to me like he's destined to be a backup also as long as Gay is on the team. Are they simply planning on letting Gay leave and hope that Golson can step in?
    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    my guess is that Golson was drafted to be Gay's eventual replacement as the slot corner...

    Doesn't that still leave us with no starting corners, then?

    It doesn't really help us if we have 3 good slot corners and a Washington/Scott/Flowers situation going on for the rest of it.
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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Doesn't that still leave us with no starting corners, then?

    It doesn't really help us if we have 3 good slot corners and a Washington/Scott/Flowers situation going on for the rest of it.
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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Doesn't that still leave us with no starting corners, then?

    It doesn't really help us if we have 3 good slot corners and a Washington/Scott/Flowers situation going on for the rest of it.
    you mean like when we had Anthony Madison covering Jordy Nelson in the Super Bowl?

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Good thing Tomlin and Colbert are on the same page! Thank god the coach gets such good use out of the player his GM used a draft pick to get rather than letting some jabroni keep playing!

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPgh View Post
    Good thing Tomlin and Colbert are on the same page! Thank god the coach gets such good use out of the player his GM used a draft pick to get rather than letting some jabroni keep playing!
    if Blake isn't the worst rated CB by PFF after this game I would hate to see who is worse...

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    To Boykin: We would love to see you play!!!

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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMayhem72 View Post
    To Boykin: We would love to see you play!!!
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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMayhem72 View Post
    To Boykin: We would love to see you play!!!
    They're okay.


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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Heck, I think, with torn knee, and 300+ pounds, I wouldn't play worse that Blake. OK maybe a little worse. :-)


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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Drazo85 View Post
    Heck, I think, with torn knee, and 300+ pounds, I wouldn't play worse that Blake. OK maybe a little worse. :-)
    I think if take Blake but you'd get more playing time than Boykin.


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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I think if take Blake but you'd get more playing time than Boykin.
    Please, I would be offended if Boykin was ahead of me on depth chart. Can you imagine that guy on the field. He was just horrendous last season with eagles. What he was? Best slot corner in a league? I can do that with my eyes closed.


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    Re: Steelers’ Boykin: I’d love to be playing

    In respect to comparisons to 2009 and the bleeding secondary, I don't see Tomlin making any changes. I remember him saying he would (in 2009) but that was putting in Joe Burnett for a few series in one game. Nothing major was done.

    I have no expectations for any changes. Not that we shouldn't but I don't see it happening.



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