Off the radar....understandably.

[TeeTee]

I know with the major drama about Ben's knee, this was overlooked.....but...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201509...ecap=fullstory

Jarvis Jones had a total of 1 tackle, no sacks, no forced fumbles, no picks.

This is his 3rd year. Dupree ALREADY seems to make more of a difference while being a rookie.

We are getting close to the point of us all admitting JJ is a bust.

That hurts.

He might very well be our worst OLB. Worse than a rookie. Worse than a 38-year-old. Worse than a 6th-round pick from tiny James Madison. In his 3rd season, he is mostly as quiet as a church mouse pissing on a cotton ball.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I know with the major drama about Ben's knee, this was overlooked.....but...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201509...ecap=fullstory

Jarvis Jones had a total of 1 tackle, no sacks, no forced fumbles, no picks.

This is his 3rd year. Dupree ALREADY seems to make more of a difference while being a rookie.

We are getting close to the point of us all admitting JJ is a bust.

That hurts.

He might very well be our worst OLB. Worse than a rookie. Worse than a 38-year-old. Worse than a 6th-round pick from tiny James Madison. In his 3rd season, he is mostly as quiet as a church mouse pissing on a cotton ball.

And at least 3-4 missed tackles that he should have had.

[GBMelBlount]

This is his 3rd year.

We are getting close to the point of us all admitting JJ is a bust.

In his 3rd season, he is mostly as quiet as a church mouse pissing on a cotton ball.

[polamalubeast]

Been a long time, I lost hope in Jarvis Jones.Yes he is a bust.

[TeeTee]

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Been a long time, I lost hope in Jarvis Jones.Yes he is a bust.

Imagine how much better we would be if he were a young Greg Lloyd or Joey Porter.

[Mojouw]

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...-hurries/2015/

He does have one hurry.

Jarvis Jones was a stupid pick when he was drafted and he is a terrible player now. He brings literally nothing to the table.

[86WARD]

Cliff Avril was the biggest non-pick in recent Steelers history. Taking Bruce Davis over Avril was ridiculous...I'm still outraged about it...

[SteelerFanInStl]

I had hope for him coming into this season but I think that hope is now gone.

[zulater]

I'll tell you who wasn't a wasted pick. Stephen Tuitt, that's who! Hey if we're going to crucify the FO on the misses we should at least acknowledge the hits too.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I'll tell you who wasn't a wasted pick. Stephen Tuitt, that's who! Hey if we're going to crucify the FO on the misses we should at least acknowledge the hits too.

I agree. Tuitt's definitely a player and was a great pick.

[TeeTee]

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[lipps83]

The writing was all over the wall on this one. It said "DO NOT DRAFT THIS PLAYER". Injury concerns, worst workout numbers of pretty much any player coming out that year. Weaker than a wide receiver, slower than the slowest lineman. This guy would have dropped right out of the 1st round if it wasn't for the Steelers.

I wanted Eric Reid. Would have killed a lot of birds with that stone and the defense would be two persons better than it is right now.

That being said, I understood the pick when it was made and had little problem with it at the time despite wanting another player. Workout numbers were just that, and you couldn't deny the numbers he put up in college. Half way into his first season you could tell he was never going to do anything significant in his career. He was THAT bad.

I still have hope he will turn it around though, it is just too bad that he can't.

[Mojouw]

The writing was all over the wall on this one. It said "DO NOT DRAFT THIS PLAYER". Injury concerns, worst workout numbers of pretty much any player coming out that year. Weaker than a wide receiver, slower than the slowest lineman. This guy would have dropped right out of the 1st round if it wasn't for the Steelers.

I wanted Eric Reid. Would have killed a lot of birds with that stone and the defense would be two persons better than it is right now.

That being said, I understood the pick when it was made and had little problem with it at the time despite wanting another player. Workout numbers were just that, and you couldn't deny the numbers he put up in college. Half way into his first season you could tell he was never going to do anything significant in his career. He was THAT bad.

I still have hope he will turn it around though, it is just too bad that he can't.

But that's the thing - it wasn't just the workout #'s. All you had to do was watch him play in college. He played on a loaded defense whose scheme was set up for Jones to make "splash" plays. He rarely made plays against high caliber competition (other guys who were drafted to play on Sundays), he didn't get better at anything year to year, and he had zero pass rushing moves.

There were almost zero indicators that Jones was anything but a really good college player who was already athletically maxed out.

I mean at least Archer is stupid fast and Landry Jones can throw really far. They possess at least one physical trait that is foundational to their projected NFL role.

[Shoes]

Well, he's not alone in the missed tackle club from Sunday.

Will Allen: 4
William Gay: 3
Jarvis Jones: 3
Antwon Blake: 3
Arthur Moats: 2
Sean Spence: 2
Mike Mitchell: 1
Bud Dupree: 1
Stephon Tuitt: 1
Lawrence Timmons: 1
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/09...in-pittsburgh/


At least Jones is playing, Archer and Cortez Allen have done nothing...zero . Allen is the winner here, big contract for being a head case.

[dislocatedday]

Jarvis is largely invisible and I do not have much faith left that he will start to make significant contributions.

As someone noted above though, if you are going to slam the team for the pick, you have to give them credit for their successes too. LeVeon Bell was the team's 2nd round pick after Jarvis in the 1st in 2013. If the draft was redone today then Bell would be a top five pick. He may even go on to be the best player from that entire draft class.

Overall the Steelers are in solid shape everywhere except the secondary at this point in time.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Well, he's not alone in the missed tackle club from Sunday.

Will Allen: 4
William Gay: 3
Jarvis Jones: 3
Antwon Blake: 3
Arthur Moats: 2
Sean Spence: 2
Mike Mitchell: 1
Bud Dupree: 1
Stephon Tuitt: 1
Lawrence Timmons: 1
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/09...in-pittsburgh/

At least Jones is playing, Archer and Cortez Allen have done nothing...zero . Allen is the winner here, big contract for being a head case.

if we're going to bash JJ for his performance against the Rams, then it's only fair that we also criticize Cam Heyward who was credited with only one tackle and had zero pressures on 30 pass rushes.

and Heyward gets paid a helluva lot more $ than JJ does...

[steelreserve]

Yeah, I was not ready to give up on Jones based on small sample size, but I'm losing faith in him quickly. Not only has he not put up any stats, you can tell the players who are making a difference out there, and he's not one of them. He's looking like non-contract-year Jason Worilds at best.

Imagine how much better we would be if he were a young Greg Lloyd or Joey Porter.

Hell, if you activated Joey Porter NOW, we'd probably be better.

[ETL]

Actually I thought he had a good game. I know the stats don't say it but I thought he brought some pressure. I remember one play where he was ran immediately to the wide receiver as he immediately read the play.

i still want to see more from him.

[polamalubeast]

if we're going to bash JJ for his performance against the Rams, then it's only fair that we also criticize Cam Heyward who was credited with only one tackle and had zero pressures on 30 pass rushes.

and Heyward gets paid a helluva lot more $ than JJ does...

Bad games, it can happen.But the problem with Jones is that he is bad since he is in the nfl. I have no hope in him since the mid-season of his rookie season.Jones was so bad.

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Well, he's not alone in the missed tackle club from Sunday.

Will Allen: 4
William Gay: 3
Jarvis Jones: 3
Antwon Blake: 3
Arthur Moats: 2
Sean Spence: 2
Mike Mitchell: 1
Bud Dupree: 1
Stephon Tuitt: 1
Lawrence Timmons: 1
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/09...in-pittsburgh/


At least Jones is playing, Archer and Cortez Allen have done nothing...zero . Allen is the winner here, big contract for being a head case.

So Jones has had 1 tackle with 3 missed tackles vs Rams?!....Ouch!

[Count Steeler]

I figure you give him 1 more game. Than his reps should diminish if he doesn't step it up.

[TeeTee]

I'll tell you who wasn't a wasted pick. Stephen Tuitt, that's who! Hey if we're going to crucify the FO on the misses we should at least acknowledge the hits too.

That's fine. But they are kind of different subjects. I was specifically posting about JJ seeming more and more like a bust every day. You can't afford to miss on your first rounders.

If Colbert constantly misses on picks 4, 5, 6 and 7, we can live with. But missing on 1st rounders does not a good franchise make. If you want to give kudos on relatively recent picks, Tuitt, Heyward, Glass-zier, Dupree, DD, Bell, etc are keepers (If Glass-zier can ever stay healthy).

[TeeTee]

Just look at who they passed on for this fool.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...=round1#round1

Even his own OLB teammate, Ogletree, is sooooooooooooooo much better than he is. What a waste of a first round pick.

[polamalubeast]

I do not want to defend the steelers on this pick, but the 2013 draft in general was brutal.Just look at the top 10 pick.

Le'veon Bell and Eddie Lacy are 2 of the top 5 players in this draft.

[steelreserve]

Just look at who they passed on for this fool.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...=round1#round1

Crap - you mean we could've had Geno Smith? What a waste.

In any event, we've got Jones' replacement and Moats is holding up fine on the other side, so at this point it's water under the bridge. Sure sucks having to use two first-round picks to get one player, though. Maybe it'll turn out for the best in the end. Like - if not for the Ziggy Hood stink bomb, we probably never would've ended up with Tuitt. Still sucks that we has to use a first and a second to get to that result too, though.

[ALLD]

I would have rather drafted Mosley over James Jones.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I would have rather drafted Mosley over James Jones.

I would have rather drafted Sean Lee and Eddie Lacy over James Jones too...

[teegre]

If we are going to play the "hindsight is 20/20" game...

I would have have traded the entire 2008 draft to acquire Adrian Peterson in 2007.

Then, I would have traded up one spot in that same draft (2007) to get Revis.


I truly think that with BB and Hines Ward in their primes, plus Santonio, AND Peterson... oh my. Plus, Troy, Harrison , Farrior (et al) with Revis Island... scary good. They might have won four straight (2007-2010).

[fansince'76]

I woulda rather had Dan Marino than Gabe Rivera.

I mean, since we're playing the 20/20 hindsight armchair GM game, how about going back and "what-ifing" a pick that would have changed an entire generation of Steelers football?

[ALLD]

Hey, I was just saying....and didn't even get all the names right.

[Count Steeler]

On a positive note, he is not injury prone. Or maybe he is playing with 2 pulled groins.