Ben out 4-6 wks with MCL sprain. No ACL tear

[polamalubeast]

Tomlin will deserved to be a big candidate for coach of the year if the Steelers make the playoffs without Pouncey 10 games, without Bell 2 games, without Bryant four games and without Ben 4-6 games ....

[Steeldude]

Exactly. Give it two weeks rest. This week and next and he should be ready for the Chargers game. Just put a good brace on it, not a Kmart brand. Hell, immobilize it completely, I don't care if he can't swing his leg.

All he should miss is the Ravens game. He isn't running anywhere. He just stands for 95% of the game. Shouldn't be a problem.

You have never sprained or torn any ligaments in your life have you?

He just stands 95% of the time? I am not sure what you are getting at. Are you saying he stands still 95% of the time? Or that he is upright 95% of the time?

[lipps83]

You have never sprained or torn any ligaments in your life have you?

He just stands 95% of the time? I am not sure what you are getting at. Are you saying he stands still 95% of the time? Or that he is upright 95% of the time?

Actually, I tore my ACL, MCL, strained PCL, small tear in the meniscus and cracked the top of my tibula. My leg was so jacked up they waited 6 weeks for surgery so at least a bit of the swelling would come down first. My lower leg was pretty much just attached to my leg by skin. 4 years later and I am still not 100% and probably never will be. I never got full range of motion back, only about 95% of it. I think that is due to the 6 week wait for surgery. I wish I had a good story to go with that, but I don't. I wasn't tackled on the play, my leg gave out making a cut at full speed.

I get it, any downward pressure is going to be uncomfortable. That is what the shots are for. He could do it, but it isn't necessary. I would rather see him heal completely before coming back, no need to risk a possible re-injury. My post was partly sarcasm, but he could play if he needed to which we don't really, so the point is irrelevant.

[polamalubeast]

[Moose]

Tomlin was a big factor in why Vick is here, so let's have faith now in Tomlin getting Vick ready to play Steeler style ball. Vick's legs aren't like the old days, but I'm sure he can still scramble somewhat. And he does have a good arm yet too. I'm in no way a Vick fan, but right now he is a Steeler and our best bet to win games, so I will have to support him. I have to have faith in Tomlin and the FO for going after Vick, so now will be the 'proof in the pudding' so to speak as to why they did. I also remember back a few year's when Ben had the motorcycle accident that could have very well ended his career if not even killed him, and he bounced back unbelievably fast. Hopefully we beat the ratbirds Thursday night and see what Tomlin and Vick, and of course Haley ( who I'm not a fan of) put together and then we will be able to look forward to the remaining schedule and maybe it will look better. I think the bungholes are looking good, but they are beatable....with a good, healthy QB.

[steel striker]

Well as log as Vick does not turn the ball over the steelers have a chance but, he has fumbled alot the past few season he has played.

[86WARD]

Tomlin will deserved to be a big candidate for coach of the year if the Steelers make the playoffs without Pouncey 10 games, without Bell 2 games, without Bryant four games and without Ben 4-6 games ....

I'd like to see him earn that extension!!

[vasteeler]

Tomlin was a big factor in why Vick is here, so let's have faith now in Tomlin getting Vick ready to play Steeler style ball. Vick's legs aren't like the old days, but I'm sure he can still scramble somewhat. And he does have a good arm yet too. I'm in no way a Vick fan, but right now he is a Steeler and our best bet to win games, so I will have to support him. I have to have faith in Tomlin and the FO for going after Vick, so now will be the 'proof in the pudding' so to speak as to why they did. I also remember back a few year's when Ben had the motorcycle accident that could have very well ended his career if not even killed him, and he bounced back unbelievably fast. Hopefully we beat the ratbirds Thursday night and see what Tomlin and Vick, and of course Haley ( who I'm not a fan of) put together and then we will be able to look forward to the remaining schedule and maybe it will look better. I think the bungholes are looking good, but they are beatable....with a good, healthy QB.

for me the problem isnt with his legs or arms. its that 10 cent brain thats going to hurt us

[LLT]

Vick's legs aren't like the old days, but I'm sure he can still scramble somewhat.

To the tune of about a 4.3 forty.

[BigNastyDefense]

Just about anyone else would have likely torn a ligament with that hit. Ben is bionic.

I'm hoping for 4 weeks, but I'm expecting him to return after five or six.

I'm glad we signed Williams in the offseason because this offense is going to use that two-headed monster at running back a lot. I don't trust Vick's decision making, the guy has never been very good at reading defenses and anticipation on throws. He can still run some, but he's not anything close to the Vick that was making exciting plays for the Falcons. I'm just hoping he doesn't get hurt, because he's always been injury prone.

[LLT]

Just about anyone else would have likely torn a ligament with that hit. Ben is bionic.

I'm hoping for 4 weeks, but I'm expecting him to return after five or six.

I'm glad we signed Williams in the offseason because this offense is going to use that two-headed monster at running back a lot. I don't trust Vick's decision making, the guy has never been very good at reading defenses and anticipation on throws. He can still run some, but he's not anything close to the Vick that was making exciting plays for the Falcons. I'm just hoping he doesn't get hurt, because he's always been injury prone.

Agree with most of this. Vick's decision making is very suspect. That being said....don't think for a second that he has lost much of a step. He beat LeSean McCoy in a forty yard dash contest...by 4 yards. McCoy has been timed as fast as 4.23

[zoneblitzerII]

After Ben gets back, I'd like to see him always play with a knee brace and extra protection. The NFL doesn't really care about the health of QBs so a more proactive approach is needed.

[Shoes]

If anyone is capable of coming back in the shortest possible time it's Ben.

How about a list of other players with MCL sprains and when they got back on the field:

Playerpositionteamyearweeks missed
Drew Stanton QB Arizona Cardinals 2014----- 3 weeks*
Jay Cutler QB Chicago Bears 2010 injured in playoff loss
Jay Cutler QB Chicago Bears 2012----- 0
Ryan Matthews RB San Diego Chargers 2014------ 7 (plus bye 8^thweek)
Rashad Jennings RB New York Giants 2014------- 5
LeGarrette Blount RB New England Patriots 2015----- 4
Lorenzo Taliaferro RB Baltimore Ravens 2015 3
Bryan Bulaga OT Green Bay Packers 2014 -------2 (only 1 game)
Darren Bates LB St. Louis Rams 2015------- 4


steelersdepot.com/2015/09/the-…l-big-ben-really-be-back/

[86WARD]

That doesn't take in to effect the alleged bone bruise which is also complicating things...

[TeeTee]

Better than season ending.

Here's hoping it is only 4 weeks.

I hope we can manage going 3-3 if it is 6 weeks. We could possibly salvage the season if we manage that

[86WARD]

Reading up on bone bruises and it doesn't sound good for a 4 week recovery...

[Steelman]

Reading up on bone bruises and it doesn't sound good for a 4 week recovery...

Yeah, I suffered a grade 2 strain of my MCL a few years ago and it was the bone bruise that knocked me out of work for 5 months. Of course I was broke and had no health insurance so basically had to fend for myself and rehab on my own so I expect a professional football organization can provide much better care. Still, I don't believe he'll be in the discussion to start again until Cincinnati.

What really sucks is he'll probably be hampered for the rest of the season by it. MCL's are one of those annoying lingering things that you can still move around after but it never feels quite right for a long time.

[TeeTee]

Actually, I tore my ACL, MCL, strained PCL, small tear in the meniscus and cracked the top of my tibula. My leg was so jacked up they waited 6 weeks for surgery so at least a bit of the swelling would come down first. My lower leg was pretty much just attached to my leg by skin. 4 years later and I am still not 100% and probably never will be. I never got full range of motion back, only about 95% of it. I think that is due to the 6 week wait for surgery. I wish I had a good story to go with that, but I don't. I wasn't tackled on the play, my leg gave out making a cut at full speed.

I get it, any downward pressure is going to be uncomfortable. That is what the shots are for. He could do it, but it isn't necessary. I would rather see him heal completely before coming back, no need to risk a possible re-injury. My post was partly sarcasm, but he could play if he needed to which we don't really, so the point is irrelevant.

That is a GROSS story. I am sorry I read it. I want them to let him heal 97% before he is back out there. Just hold our breath that we will still have a season to save by that point. I am thinking he will be back Bengals game. If we could go 2-2 in that span, I could live with it. And although Cinci looks good now, it's early. With Ben, I wouldn't be shocked if we win that one. Also, this period is going to toughen all units up, as they have to tighten their belts due to this big loss. The D is going to improve as it did Sunday. I know the Rams are not the best O, but anytime you hold a team to 6 points, you are playing some decent D.

[ALLD]

I expect Ben back in 2016. They will need to smarten up the game plan and scheme for pressure.

[zulater]

I expect Ben back in 2016. They will need to smarten up the game plan and scheme for pressure.

WTF?

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Reading up on bone bruises and it doesn't sound good for a 4 week recovery...

There's different degrees of bone bruises. Also people heal at different rates. Ben's history is that of a quick healer. I think there's as much chance he misses less than 4 games as that he misses more. That's just knowing the man. .

[ALLD]

Was not trying to alarm everybodu, but am looking forward to next season and the election.

[lipps83]

That is a GROSS story. I am sorry I read it. I want them to let him heal 97% before he is back out there. Just hold our breath that we will still have a season to save by that point. I am thinking he will be back Bengals game. If we could go 2-2 in that span, I could live with it. And although Cinci looks good now, it's early. With Ben, I wouldn't be shocked if we win that one. Also, this period is going to toughen all units up, as they have to tighten their belts due to this big loss. The D is going to improve as it did Sunday. I know the Rams are not the best O, but anytime you hold a team to 6 points, you are playing some decent D.

Ha! Better to read about it than to experience it. It was the 2nd worst pain I have ever experienced in my life. The first was about a week later when one of my crutches got stuck on a door I was going through and I landed on the bad leg to balance myself from a fall (my good leg was behind me as I was going forward). That hurt too, but what hurt the most was when I pulled my bad leg up to my chest in an automatic attempt to get it out of harms way. I did all that to stop falling and I fell anyway.

In the most unbelievable pain I have ever experienced.

That hurt.

More than anything I have ever experienced in my life.

I said that twice to emphasize how bad it was.

I would rather be dead than go through that 5 minutes ever again.

[TeeTee]

Ha! Better to read about it than to experience it. It was the 2nd worst pain I have ever experienced in my life. The first was about a week later when one of my crutches got stuck on a door I was going through and I landed on the bad leg to balance myself from a fall (my good leg was behind me as I was going forward). That hurt too, but what hurt the most was when I pulled my bad leg up to my chest in an automatic attempt to get it out of harms way. I did all that to stop falling and I fell anyway.

In the most unbelievable pain I have ever experienced.



That hurt.

More than anything I have ever experienced in my life.

I said that twice to emphasize how bad it was.

I would rather be dead than go through that 5 minutes ever again.

I feel like Barbara Streisand in "The Main Event" where she is talking about a paper cut she got in front of boxers who had serious injuries.

Your injury sounds awful. My worst one was running a sweep, taking it to the house, was obviously going to score, and my groin pulled (tore?) and it was so painful, that I fell on the ground and fumbled. There was no conscious thought behind it. I didn't "think" about anything, body just reacted. My wife asked if Ben faked/exaggerated his injury to make excuse for his fumble. I said, "No, the injury was what made him fumble."

[stillers4me]

[steelreserve]

They really need to ask? Hello Kitty is tougher than Tom Brady.

[TeeTee]

Although I'd like to believe this is meaningful, a pic of Brady in a golf cart allegedly into a stadium isn't proof of anything. And dear God, I wish Ben WOULD have been getting carted around. Our neighbor broke her foot, and she won't be on crutches going anywhere for months. Ben shouldn't even be on crutches. The most complete rest the better.

[tube517]

They really need to ask? Hello Kitty is tougher than Tom Brady.

JamesTheBouncer ‏@JamesTheBouncer 1h1 hour ago
@SteelerChickPGH Cut him a break. Brady was just trying not to get his Uggs dirty ��

So true.

[zulater]

I'm predicting Ben will be back under center no later than Nov. 1 versus the Bengals.

[ALLD]

Took me 8 weeks in my 40s, but I am no professional athlete. Romo is looking longer term too. I would not wish it on any team. They need to invent some kind of plastic armor for the QBs.

[86WARD]

WTF?

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There's different degrees of bone bruises. Also people heal at different rates. Ben's history is that of a quick healer. I think there's as much chance he misses less than 4 games as that he misses more. That's just knowing the man. .

Yes. The MCL, grade 2, usually heals in 2-4 weeks. A bone bruise takes longer to heal and for the swelling to go down. If they aren't careful the edema could lead to articulate cartilage loss...which are major complications. A bone bruise is basically a micro-fracture of the bone. Sure Ben has been a quick healer in the past but with the bone bruise, it's not really something you can rush back from.

Hopefully your feelings are right, but based on what I've read, 6 weeks sounds like more of a probability tan I originally thought. It's not encouraging. There have been players that have gone on IR for it, there have been players that have played in the Super Bowl with a similar injury...