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    Chickillo looking pretty good

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    He is showing more than Jarvis Jones did during his rookie pre-season/training camp.

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    I haven't heard any word on how well Chickillo is playing on STs. Will they keep 10 LBs? I would like to see the Steelers cut Archer to free up a roster spot.
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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    He's also doing this against guys who are going to be selling insurance when the final cuts come down.

    I doubt they cut Archer this year, especially with Bell's suspension. Even if the Steelers keep him, he could spend the entire season inactive (which I think is a stupid rule). If Bell wasn't suspended, maybe they keep 10 linebackers. But they're likely to keep an extra RB for the first two games of the season.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    I've stated it several times, but it bears iteration:

    Chickillo will be a starter at OLB for this team.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I've stated it several times, but it bears iteration:

    Chickillo will be a starter at OLB for this team.
    I have the same feeling. This could be Harrison's last year and Jarvis Jones could be given walking papers if he shows nothing in 2015.
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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I've stated it several times, but it bears iteration:

    Chickillo will be a starter at OLB for this team.
    .......and for a very long time.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I've stated it several times, but it bears iteration:

    Chickillo will be a starter at OLB for this team.
    I agree but I don't see how Chick makes the 53. He's caught in a numbers game, which unfortunately I think he loses. I think he'll be on the practice squad to start.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I agree but I don't see how Chick makes the 53. He's caught in a numbers game, which unfortunately I think he loses. I think he'll be on the practice squad to start.
    Hopefully he makes it, if he goes to the practice squad another team will more than likely scoop him up.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by vader29 View Post
    Hopefully he makes it, if he goes to the practice squad another team will more than likely scoop him up.
    You can count on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I agree but I don't see how Chick makes the 53. He's caught in a numbers game, which unfortunately I think he loses. I think he'll be on the practice squad to start.

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    Which means he will be gone. He will be snatched up by another team.
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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Which means he will be gone. He will be snatched up by another team.
    I fear that too. But who will the coaches cut for him? If it were me it would be Landry Jones (pending Gradkowski's injury time) or Ross Ventrone.

    I just don't see him making the cut.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    If Jones makes the team because of Gradkowski, then Cam Thomas can be sent packing. Chickiloo has potential that should be kept in the black and gold a little while longer.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Completely agree. I guess I fear that the coaches will send him to the practice squad for the likes of Cam Thomas or Landry Jones. Especially with Tuitt's injury - I don't see Cam Thomas getting cut now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I fear that too. But who will the coaches cut for him? If it were me it would be Landry Jones (pending Gradkowski's injury time) or Ross Ventrone.

    I just don't see him making the cut.
    I find Archer to be expendable. He isn't a RB or a WR. His ability as a KR/PR is lacking. The Steelers should be able to go with Williams, Harris and Johnson for 2 games.

    I doubt Cam Thomas would be cut over LT Walton. Especially since Thomas has shown improvement. If anything they could take a chance on moving Walton to the practice squad.

    Now what if Chickillo's special team play is on par or better than Garvin's?

    As of now Chickillo has shown more potential than Dupree.
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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Chee-kee-yo ! I'm down with that !
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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    I find Archer to be expendable. He isn't a RB or a WR. His ability as a KR/PR is lacking.
    Agreed. Archer adds nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    I find Archer to be expendable. He isn't a RB or a WR. His ability as a KR/PR is lacking. The Steelers should be able to go with Williams, Harris and Johnson for 2 games.
    Actually, I think Archer has looked decent so far. He's not going anywhere. He's clearly the #1 KR at this point.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Archer is a near lock to make the final 53 ... get used to it

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    I find Archer to be expendable. He isn't a RB or a WR. His ability as a KR/PR is lacking. The Steelers should be able to go with Williams, Harris and Johnson for 2 games.

    I doubt Cam Thomas would be cut over LT Walton. Especially since Thomas has shown improvement. If anything they could take a chance on moving Walton to the practice squad.

    Now what if Chickillo's special team play is on par or better than Garvin's?

    As of now Chickillo has shown more potential than Dupree.
    I agree that if Chick was out-playing Garvin on special teams he'd be on the team. Unfortunately, I don't think he's done that so far.

    I really do want Chick on the 53, but I can't figure out who the coaches will cut to keep him.

    If Gradkowski is okay I'd send Landry to the practice squad. NOBODY is going to claim him off of waivers. Too bad the Steelers aren't asking my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I agree that if Chick was out-playing Garvin on special teams he'd be on the team. Unfortunately, I don't think he's done that so far.

    I really do want Chick on the 53, but I can't figure out who the coaches will cut to keep him.

    If Gradkowski is okay I'd send Landry to the practice squad. NOBODY is going to claim him off of waivers. Too bad the Steelers aren't asking my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Don't worry, there are two more preseason games left for players to be injured in.....unfortunately.
    True. That's likely to change things.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    I have the same feeling. This could be Harrison's last year and Jarvis Jones could be given walking papers if he shows nothing in 2015.
    Just in time for Chickillo to take over...

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    .......and for a very long time.
    Indeed

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Pouncey's inj could be the end of Chickillo?

    I doubt we'll keep 10 LB's now that we need more OL depth

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I agree but I don't see how Chick makes the 53. He's caught in a numbers game, which unfortunately I think he loses. I think he'll be on the practice squad to start.
    Drat. Good point.

    Okay... how do we make room...

    Okay, I'd cut Cam Thomas. I don't care how good he's been this preseason, he's a bag of suck. And, Yes, I'm completely biased when I say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD's & Beer View Post
    Pouncey's inj could be the end of Chickillo?

    I doubt we'll keep 10 LB's now that we need more OL depth
    Pouncey's roster spot will be exempt; he goes on IR, without affecting the 53 (I think). So, they replace his spot with Cody Wallace, and the numbers should be the same (I think).

    I think... I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Drat. Good point.

    Okay... how do we make room...

    Okay, I'd cut Cam Thomas. I don't care how good he's been this preseason, he's a bag of suck. And, Yes, I'm completely biased when I say that.

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    Pouncey's roster spot will be exempt; he goes on IR, without affecting the 53 (I think). So, they replace his spot with Cody Wallace, and the numbers should be the same (I think).

    I think... I hope.
    Only problem is that if they put Pouncey on the IR-DTR it can't be done until after final cuts.

    I'm not sure if season-ending IR works the same way.

    Also, I'd love to send Cam Thomas packing too, but again, with Tuitt's injury I doubt that happens. Guess it depends on the time line for Tuitt's return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    Only problem is that if they put Pouncey on the IR-DTR it can't be done until after final cuts.

    I'm not sure if season-ending IR works the same way.

    Also, I'd love to send Cam Thomas packing too, but again, with Tuitt's injury I doubt that happens. Guess it depends on the time line for Tuitt's return.
    Stop making sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Stop making sense.

    Logic and facts have no place in a discussion about what I want to happen.
    My bad. Logic and my wife have no place in what I want to happen either.

    Seriously though, I'm pulling hard for Chickillo, Darby, and Wild. Just hoping that one of them makes the cut.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Landry Jones should be the one who goes, no question. I pointed out this exact same scenario in the thread about him, and it would be beyond infuriating if it actually happened.

    Archer also contributes nothing, and I mean NOTHING, but will probably be on the opening roster because of Bell's weed thing. If not him, they'll bring up another RB.

    If for some reason we insist on Jones and Archer both staying, we should give Chickillo the spot of one of our expendable DBs ... Webb, Ventrone, etc. - although that probably means we try to put Holliday on the PS and he gets taken immediately, another sacrifice to Landry Jones.

    The rookie IR rule is really screwing us with Golson; even though he looks like a lock to end up there, we have to keep him on the final 53 before we can do it.

    The ballsy move would be to get rid of J. Jones.

    I really wish one of our offensive linemen would learn how to do the long snapping one offseason and free up that spot. Just like having the backup QB be the holder instead of the punter, this is something that is a relatively simple advantage to gain and I have no idea why more teams don't do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Landry Jones should be the one who goes, no question. I pointed out this exact same scenario in the thread about him, and it would be beyond infuriating if it actually happened.

    Archer also contributes nothing, and I mean NOTHING, but will probably be on the opening roster because of Bell's weed thing. If not him, they'll bring up another RB.

    If for some reason we insist on Jones and Archer both staying, we should give Chickillo the spot of one of our expendable DBs ... Webb, Ventrone, etc. - although that probably means we try to put Holliday on the PS and he gets taken immediately, another sacrifice to Landry Jones.

    The rookie IR rule is really screwing us with Golson; even though he looks like a lock to end up there, we have to keep him on the final 53 before we can do it.

    The ballsy move would be to get rid of J. Jones.

    I really wish one of our offensive linemen would learn how to do the long snapping one offseason and free up that spot. Just like having the backup QB be the holder instead of the punter, this is something that is a relatively simple advantage to gain and I have no idea why more teams don't do.
    I agree with getting rid of Landry Jones. If the FO won't outright release him, then send him to the PS. There is 0% chance that another team steals him from us to carry on their 53 for the year.

    I somewhat disagree regarding Archer. Yes, he was utterly useless last year, but I've seen enough (granted, not a lot) to warrant him making the 53. He has looked okay in return duties and has shown a little more patience when running with the ball. He still needs to slow down a bit, IMO, to allow his blockers to set up.

    There is no chance that Archer or JJ get cut. Unless we see an injury to a LB, I don't see Chickillo on the team. Unfortunately, I can see a team like the 49ers grabbing him off waivers.

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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    If we send Chikillo to the PS, it's not a possibility that someone else will grab him; it is a certainty.

    So in that light, the question is: Who would you rather have on the team and see if they pan out? Chickillo or Landry Jones? That's a no-brainer.

    Chickillo or Archer? A little tougher, but I just don't think Archer has a future in this league, so go with the guy who might.

    Chickillo or J. Jones? Well, I probably wouldn't pull the trigger on that one. I don't think we've seen enough from Jones and he might actually turn out OK. But fuck those first two guys.
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    Re: Chickillo looking pretty good

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    If we send Chikillo to the PS, it's not a possibility that someone else will grab him; it is a certainty.

    So in that light, the question is: Who would you rather have on the team and see if they pan out? Chickillo or Landry Jones? That's a no-brainer.

    Chickillo or Archer? A little tougher, but I just don't think Archer has a future in this league, so go with the guy who might.

    Chickillo or J. Jones? Well, I probably wouldn't pull the trigger on that one. I don't think we've seen enough from Jones and he might actually turn out OK. But fuck those first two guys.
    No argument from me. I get tired of the conventional "wisdom" that often dictates these decisions. Screw a 3rd QB. Screw the guy who is a "special teams beast." The special teams guy is generally a guy that is so limited that he will never have a true position - Ventrone & Garvin for example. Throw Landry Jones & Ventrone out and give guys like Chick and Wild or Darby the opportunity to play. Isn't the idea to find guys in the draft that can become long-time starters? Why we continue to throw guys like Nick Williams and potentially Chickillo into the waiver pool, yet keep marginal NFL players like Ventrone & Landry Jones, is mind-boggling.

    But, then again, I've never gotten a paycheck with the NFL logo on it, so what do I know?

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