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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Personally, I want the ball in just about anyone else's hands unless something is dramatically different this year. A running back who's easy to bring down and can't find a hole; a receiver who can't get open. Straight-line speed doesn't count for much without the football instincts to go with it.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Personally, I want the ball in just about anyone else's hands unless something is dramatically different this year. A running back who's easy to bring down and can't find a hole; a receiver who can't get open. Straight-line speed doesn't count for much without the football instincts to go with it.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

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    The problem is he left his feet. Mike Wallace can't jump.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    The problem is he left his feet. Mike Wallace can't jump.

    What are you, a moron? He doesn't get paid to jump.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    What are you, a moron? He doesn't get paid to jump.
    And we can see why.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    That was a pretty terrible pass though...lol.


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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    That was a pretty terrible pass though...lol.
    He was able to get both hands on the ball. A competent receiver pulls that one down.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    What are you, a moron? He doesn't get paid to jump.

    Apparently he's not paid to catch either.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I think Pouncey said it best recently, not getting it past the 15 yard line is unacceptable.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    In my opinion Pouncey was right in his call on Archer.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    He was able to get both hands on the ball. A competent receiver pulls that one down.
    Won't argue that. But it's not an easy catch.


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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Archer had instincts in college, so what happened since?


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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeTee View Post
    Archer had instincts in college, so what happened since?

    Instead of making wine, he squashed grapes last year.



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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    The talent he's facing is a tiny bit better...


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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    The talent he's facing is a tiny bit better...
    That wouldn't explain his running instincts totally disappearing. His production drop could be explained by it, but not an absence of total rushing instincts.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Jury's still out on Archer. You can count me among the skeptics, but he wouldn't be the first guy who needed a full year to adapt to the league So I wont dismiss the possibility that he could be a productive player this season.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    That one kid is taller than him.




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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeTee View Post
    That wouldn't explain his running instincts totally disappearing. His production drop could be explained by it, but not an absence of total rushing instincts.

    Yeah it could. His instincts are the same, just what's worked for most of his life doesn't work now. I suspect that in college, he was fast enough that it made his instincts look better than they really were. In the pros, his speed is nothing special, so it makes him look like he doesn't know what he's doing.

    Probably a lot of times when he got the ball last year, his instinct was to outrun someone or make them miss, only in the pros there's a guy waiting there to drop you on your ass, because the middle linebacker isn't a slow white guy who's in the MAC because he would've faced long odds trying to walk on at Michigan; he's a former All-American with 4.4 speed who knows all the angles and has been playing against guys as fast as Archer for his whole career. So, he looks bad.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeTee View Post
    That wouldn't explain his running instincts totally disappearing. His production drop could be explained by it, but not an absence of total rushing instincts.
    It could if his instincts really weren't that good but enhanced by the oppositions instincts being equally bad.


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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Hilarious. Thanks for finding that.

    Did you notice how Wallace jumped for no reason? But when he needs to jump he keeps his feet firmly on the ground. He is one of the most fundamentally unsound WRs I have seen play.

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    That one kid is taller than him.

    He's busy concentrating on not getting taken down.

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    What are you, a moron? He doesn't get paid to jump.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Yeah it could. His instincts are the same, just what's worked for most of his life doesn't work now. I suspect that in college, he was fast enough that it made his instincts look better than they really were. In the pros, his speed is nothing special, so it makes him look like he doesn't know what he's doing.

    Probably a lot of times when he got the ball last year, his instinct was to outrun someone or make them miss, only in the pros there's a guy waiting there to drop you on your ass, because the middle linebacker isn't a slow white guy who's in the MAC because he would've faced long odds trying to walk on at Michigan; he's a former All-American with 4.4 speed who knows all the angles and has been playing against guys as fast as Archer for his whole career. So, he looks bad.
    I would say his speed is special. He ran a 4.26 40. Only Chris Johnson ran faster in the recent era. That is very special. Now, does that speed alone mean anything? No. But it is special.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Look at the stats for any player in the NFL with similar size/speed/height #'s as Archer. Almost every single one of them did not really become a productive receiver/returner/runner until their second or third NFL season.

    Some never do, but to write Archer off after one season of light use, a steep learning curve, etc would be a bit premature.

    I by no means am arguing that Archer is a lock to be good or "break out", but he gets one more preseason at least.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

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    What are you, a moron? He doesn't get paid to jump.
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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    I still think he was a questionable 3rd round pick, I hope he proves me wrong. I don't know what Archer will do this year, but I'm not going to judge him on his rookie year. I will only watch, and hope for the best. At any rate, if he gets the ball or not is in his hands. I think the Steelers will give him every chance to succeed. Ball in your court Dri, make the best of it.

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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    Tunch Ilkin: Dri Archer “Playing With More Confidence”


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    Re: Dri Archer Just Wants The Ball In His Hands In 2015

    I'm going to try to take a positive attitude towards Archer this year. I was excited for him last year. Majorly disappointed after seeing him throughout the season. I'm going to try to wipe the slate clean and go with a fresh attitude!


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