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    Brady* suspended 4 games

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    Thumbs up Tom Brady SUSPENDED FIRST 4 GAMES OF THE SEASON

    Just announced on TV
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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Well, I was off by 1 game. Surprised about the draft picks though, didn't think Roger had the balls for that.

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492185/article/brady-suspended-4-games-patriots-forfeit-2016-first-rounder

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    NFL's side, its statement and Troy Vincent's letter to Patriots and Tom Brady:
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    The New England Patriots were notified today of the following discipline that has been imposed for violations of the NFL Policy on Integrity of the Game and Enforcement of Competitive Rules relating to the use of under-inflated footballs in the AFC Championship Game of this past season:

    For the violation of the playing rules and the failure to cooperate in the subsequent investigation, the New England Patriots are fined $1 million and will forfeit the club’s first-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft and the club’s fourth-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft. If the Patriots have more than one selection in either of these rounds, the earlier selection shall be forfeited. The club may not trade or otherwise encumber these selections.
    Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.
    Quarterback Tom Brady will be suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2015 regular season for conduct detrimental to the integrity of the NFL. Brady may participate in all off-season, training camp and pre-season activities, including pre-season games.
    Commissioner Goodell authorized the discipline that was imposed by NFL Executive President Troy Vincent, pursuant to the commissioner’s disciplinary authority under the NFL Constitution and Bylaws and the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFL Players Association.
    “We reached these decisions after extensive discussion with Troy Vincent and many others,” Commissioner Goodell said. “We relied on the critical importance of protecting the integrity of the game and the thoroughness and independence of the Wells report.”
    Following are excerpts from Troy Vincent’s letters to the Patriots and Tom Brady:
    From Troy Vincent’s letter to the Patriots:
    “On May 6th, independent investigator Ted Wells issued his report regarding the footballs used by the Patriots in this year’s AFC Championship Game. That report established that the footballs used by the Patriots were inflated at a level that did not satisfy the standard set forth in the NFL’s Official Playing Rules and that the condition of the footballs was the result of deliberate actions by employees of the Patriots. The activities of the Patriots’ employees were thoroughly documented in the report, including through a series of text messages and telephone communications, as well as evidence of a breach in pre-game protocol. In addition, the conclusions were supported by extensive scientific analysis, as detailed in the report.
    “Based on the extensive record developed in the investigation and detailed in the Wells report, and after full consideration of this matter by the Commissioner and the Football Operations department, we have determined that the Patriots have violated the NFL's Policy on Integrity of the Game and Enforcement of Competitive Rules, as well as the Official Playing Rules and the established guidelines for the preparation of game footballs set forth in the NFL’s Game Operations Policy Manual for Member Clubs. In making this determination, we have accepted the findings contained in the comprehensive report independently prepared by Mr. Wells and his colleagues.
    “In determining that a violation occurred, we applied the standard of proof stated in the Integrity of the Game Policy: namely, preponderance of the evidence, meaning that ‘as a whole, the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.’ This is a well-recognized legal standard, which is applied in courts and workplaces every day throughout the country. The evidence gathered during the investigation and reviewed in the report more than satisfy this standard and demonstrate an ongoing plan by at least certain Patriots’ employees to deflate footballs, to do so in a secretive manner after the game officials have certified the footballs as suitable for play, and to hide these activities even from their own supervisors.
    “As you know, we regard violations of competitive rules as significant and deserving of a strong sanction, both to punish the actual violation and to deter misconduct in the future. In this case, the footballs were intentionally deflated in an effort to provide a competitive advantage to Tom Brady after having been certified by the game officials as being in compliance with the playing rules. While we cannot be certain when the activity began, the evidence suggests that January 18th was not the first and only occasion when this occurred, particularly in light of the evidence referring to deflation of footballs going back to before the beginning of the 2014 season.
    “It is impossible to determine whether this activity had an effect on the outcome of games or what that effect was. There seems little question that the outcome of the AFC Championship Game was not affected. But this has never been a significant factor in assessing discipline. There are many factors which affect the outcome of a game. It is an inherently speculative exercise to try to assign specific weight to any one factor. The key consideration in any case like this is that the playing rules exist for a reason, and all clubs are entitled to expect that the playing rules will be followed by participating teams. Violations that diminish the league's reputation for integrity and fair play cannot be excused simply because the precise impact on the final score cannot be determined.
    “Here, there are several factors that merit strong consideration in assessing discipline. The first is the club’s prior record. In 2007 the club and several individuals were sanctioned for videotaping signals of opposing defensive coaches in violation of the Constitution and Bylaws. Under the Integrity of the Game Policy, this prior violation of competitive rules was properly considered in determining the discipline in this case.
    “Another important consideration identified in the Policy is ‘the extent to which the club and relevant individuals cooperated with the investigation.’ The Wells report identifies two significant failures in this respect. The first involves the refusal by the club’s attorneys to make Mr. McNally available for an additional interview, despite numerous requests by Mr. Wells and a cautionary note in writing of the club’s obligation to cooperate in the investigation. The second was the failure of Tom Brady to produce any electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information. Although we do not hold the club directly responsible for Mr. Brady’s refusal to cooperate, it remains significant that the quarterback of the team failed to cooperate fully with the investigation.
    “Finally, it is significant that key witnesses – Mr. Brady, Mr. Jastremski, and Mr. McNally - were not fully candid during the investigation.
    “In accepting the findings of the report, we note that the report identified no evidence of wrongdoing or knowledge of wrongdoing on the part of any member of the coaching staff, including Head Coach Bill Belichick, or by any Patriots’ staff member other than Mr. Jastremski and Mr. McNally, including head equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld. Similarly, the Wells report is clear that Patriots ownership and executives did not participate in any way in the misconduct, or have knowledge of the misconduct.
    “Nonetheless, it remains a fundamental principle that the club is responsible for the actions of club employees. This principle has been applied to many prior cases. Thus, while no discipline should or will be imposed personally on any owner or executive at the Patriots, discipline is appropriately imposed on the club.”
    From Troy Vincent’s letter to Tom Brady:
    “With respect to your particular involvement, the report established that there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the actions of the Patriots’ employees involved in the deflation of the footballs and that it was unlikely that their actions were done without your knowledge. Moreover, the report documents your failure to cooperate fully and candidly with the investigation, including by refusing to produce any relevant electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information, and by providing testimony that the report concludes was not plausible and contradicted by other evidence.
    “Your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football. The integrity of the game is of paramount importance to everyone in our league, and requires unshakable commitment to fairness and compliance with the playing rules. Each player, no matter how accomplished and otherwise respected, has an obligation to comply with the rules and must be held accountable for his actions when those rules are violated and the public’s confidence in the game is called into question.”



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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Evil Mike Tomlin is on a roll right now.


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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    3 games Vs AFC teams - Nice

    I think it will get appealed and knocked down to 2 games

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Now watch him appeal it down to 2.

    I think that it should have been more but at least he got suspended and they lost a first round draft choice.
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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Pats went from a 6 point favorite to 1 point favorite vs the Steelers

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    I see Belichick is still free to cheat week 1.

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Brady's first game back in week 5 would be vs the Colts , lol

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    Here it is...

    This is what blew me away!

    Pats lose 1st round pick in 2016 and a 4th in 2017
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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Karma's a nasty little biotch....




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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    I am happy with this

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    ouch, the loss of the 1st round pick would really hurt if i was a fan of the pats* more than losing brady for 4 games

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    I'm sorry but I'm not satisfied with Belichick getting off with with nothing...that's bulshit and if I was Sean Payton, I'd be livid!!

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I'm sorry but I'm not satisfied with Belichick getting off with with nothing...that's bulshit and if I was Sean Payton, I'd be livid!!
    Maybe,but they lose Brady for 4 games and their first round pick in 2016....This is huge

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Maybe,but they lose Brady for 4 games and their first round pick in 2016....This is huge
    Yes...but they'll wind up getting a first round pick back somehow...and Belichick sits and laughs...

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Head Coach still gets off scot free.

    Tom Brady suspended just a mere quarter of the season.

    All in all, all this amounts to (at best) is a slap on the wrist.

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    Probably the reason their turnover ratio was so ridiculously far ahead of the rest of the league...easier to hang onto the ball.

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    I see Belichick is still free to cheat week 1.

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Bellicheat gets to cheat for 16 games* at least.



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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    Ah, OK - so it's a safe bet this has been going on all the way back to 2000 too...

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Brady 4 game. Good if it sticks.
    Cheats 1,000,000. Good.
    Cheats draft picks. Good
    Belicheat scot free. Fail.

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Ah, OK - so it's a safe bet this has been going on all the way back to 2000 too...
    The pats have often been in the top 3 for the fewest fumbles in the Nfl!

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    Re: Brady* suspended 4 games

    What sound does a football make when you let the air out???

    PFFFT!!!

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