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    Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...man?id=2552442

    http://www.steelers.com/news/article...6-7ba8e33bb7a4

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    Name of the game was obviously ball skills. Holliman needs better tackling technique for sure, but has that ballhawk ability.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    another ball hawk, looks like the Steelers want to improve on those 11 interceptions they had all of last season...

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    another ball hawk, looks like the Steelers want to improve on those 11 interceptions they had all of last season...
    Last year, the theme was "speed".

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    I was in the pool. I just got a text: HOLLIMAN.

    Yes!!!

    That at is all. Back to swimming with my kids.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    You are talking about the steal of the draft if this guy learns to tackle

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    You are talking about the steal of the draft if this guy learns to tackle
    he'll be used in sub-packages in Cover 2 or Cover 3 where he is a centerfielder...

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    another ball hawk, looks like the Steelers want to improve on those 11 interceptions they had all of last season...
    This is a good thing

    In fact, it is since 2011, the defense is bad for the interceptions!

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    If the guy makes the most of this opportunity and becomes a starter then it's a robbery. If he fails then we didn't waste much on him. I feel better about the lower guys panning out as draft underdogs than the others above #5 except for #1.
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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    adding 29 INTs to defensive backfield says Colbert #Steelers


    https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/st...25641175187456

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    adding 29 INTs to defensive backfield says Colbert #Steelers


    https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/st...25641175187456
    Isn't that about 25 more than what we had last year?
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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFanInStl View Post
    Isn't that about 25 more than what we had last year?
    18!

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    I was surprised when we passed him over at the end of the 6th. Then even more surprised when he was there in the 7th. I don't usually get too excited about picks at the end of the draft, but this is one with a super low risk and a high potential payoff. Obviously the kid needs work, but on the other hand, he singlehandedly had more interceptions last season than our entire defense.
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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    7(239) Pittsburgh Steelers: Gerod Holliman, QB, Louisville: A- Grade

    Some had Gerod Holliman in the third round, but we were hearing that he was going to drop. I didn't expect him to fall this far, however, and the Steelers ended up getting a potential steal. Holliman's poor measurables really sunk his draft stock, but he could end up sticking for the Steelers, who needed to find another safety.

    http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldra...TMZOJuif0lj.99

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Baccari Rambo, safety with the Bills had a drop like this last year in the draft if I recall correctly. He ended up picking off the league MVP (A.Rod) twice in one game
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    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    This could end up being a great pick. The guy oozes ball skills. He's going to be a "center fielder" safety on the back end to make plays on the ball.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    He must have good instincts to make up for his lack of speed. His profile says he gets faked out by QB looking him off and by the play-action. He needs to play smarter in the NFL.

    The one thing that stands out physically is the low vertical at 27". I am not saying that makes him a bad pick or even pick that he wouldn't be able to start in the future, but how can a DB only have a vertical of 27"? My vertical, when younger, was 38". Although I was considerably less than 218lbs...haha. Hopefully the Steelers can work on his vertical and speed. That being said, he was doing something right to win the Thorpe award. I remember a pretty good safety by the name of Thomas Everett who also won the Thorpe award.
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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    he'll be used in sub-packages in Cover 2 or Cover 3 where he is a centerfielder...
    Another baseball player like Gholson? Damn Clint Hurdle did pretty good in this draft

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Guess I comes down to whether his tackling woes are due to poor technique, or if he's just too big of a pussy to stick a tackle. If it's the later, he won't make the first cut.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by vrabinec View Post
    Guess I comes down to whether his tackling woes are due to poor technique, or if he's just too big of a pussy to stick a tackle. If it's the later, he won't make the first cut.
    Alot of what read is that it isn't so much that he won't tackle, it is that he can't. Apparently, all he wants to do is try and highlight reel Madden game "hit" people each time. Has no form and doesn't wrap. Apparently this leads to missed/bad tackles.

    Several write ups I have read have indicated that kid is not contact averse, just kinda stupid about it. Hopefully it is the kinda stupid you can fix.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Alot of what read is that it isn't so much that he won't tackle, it is that he can't. Apparently, all he wants to do is try and highlight reel Madden game "hit" people each time. Has no form and doesn't wrap. Apparently this leads to missed/bad tackles.

    Several write ups I have read have indicated that kid is not contact averse, just kinda stupid about it. Hopefully it is the kinda stupid you can fix.
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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    He must have done something right

    Winner of the Jim Thorpe Award...first team FWAA All-American and a Walter Camp selection...CBSsports and ESPN All-American...tied NCAA record for interceptions in a season with 14...broke the ACC record for interceptions in a season…recorded interceptions in nine of 12 games and multiple picks in four games...runner-up for the ACC Defensive Player of the Year Award...was a Phil Steele Midseason All-American...first team Walter Camp All-American...selected as a Jim Thorpe and Bronko Nagurski Award finalist...earned first team All-ACC honors

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by cold-hard-steel View Post
    Wow man i love ya ta death but your opinion on this bro is way out -a-line . Gettysburg College db/wr
    You may be right. My only point is that if you dig past Twitter reactions, some (not all) but some write-ups are saying that it isn't that he won't it hit, it is that he just sucks at it.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...gerod-holliman
    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/02...erod-holliman/

    I came across several others. It sounds like this kid is an INT obsessed lazy player. Tons of bad habits and has been allowed to get away with alot of stuff that will get you benched or cut in the NFL.

    If he simply does not want to tackle, it will be pretty obvious early on and it should not be hard to cut a 7th round pick.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    You may be right. My only point is that if you dig past Twitter reactions, some (not all) but some write-ups are saying that it isn't that he won't it hit, it is that he just sucks at it.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...gerod-holliman
    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/02...erod-holliman/

    I came across several others. It sounds like this kid is an INT obsessed lazy player. Tons of bad habits and has been allowed to get away with alot of stuff that will get you benched or cut in the NFL.

    If he simply does not want to tackle, it will be pretty obvious early on and it should not be hard to cut a 7th round pick.
    Exactly. I think Louisville let him get away with it because he was good at getting the picks. It's why he slid so far.

    It's something that I believe can be fixed, but the player has to want to fix it. If Lake can get through to him, and just get him to wrap up some instead of trying to blow everyone up, then Holliman can be special. If not, he was a 7th rounder and you hope you can sneak him onto the practice squad.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNastyDefense View Post
    Exactly. I think Louisville let him get away with it because he was good at getting the picks. It's why he slid so far.

    It's something that I believe can be fixed, but the player has to want to fix it. If Lake can get through to him, and just get him to wrap up some instead of trying to blow everyone up, then Holliman can be special. If not, he was a 7th rounder and you hope you can sneak him onto the practice squad.
    Which is why James Sample went in the 2nd round I believe. That Louisville secondary was pretty good, but not because of Holliman's technique or tackling. I liken him to a young point guard that is a ballhog but because he can score you never teach him how to pass and assist.

    Hopefully Lake can instill some discipline in him, but I'm not holding my breath on this one. High potential but very glad it was only a 7th rounder.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelman View Post
    Which is why James Sample went in the 2nd round I believe.
    the Jags selected Sample in the 4th round...

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    the Jags selected Sample in the 4th round...
    Guess I should check my facts--draft season fried my brain. Lol. My argument remains though. Sample didn't have a large body of work, had questionable instincts according to some, but he's a good tackler and can play the box well.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Alot of what read is that it isn't so much that he won't tackle, it is that he can't. Apparently, all he wants to do is try and highlight reel Madden game "hit" people each time. Has no form and doesn't wrap. Apparently this leads to missed/bad tackles.
    We saw quite a few moments like that out of Ryan Clarke over the years...go for the big hit with the shoulder and not even attempt to wrap up. Lol

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Maybe he never knew where the line was drawn between a non-foul hit and a foul hit .Tackle and wrap is the way that works the best.
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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by pepsyman1 View Post
    We saw quite a few moments like that out of Ryan Clarke over the years...go for the big hit with the shoulder and not even attempt to wrap up. Lol
    Not to mention that guy who wore #43...I forget his name. He had problems wrapping his arms too at times.

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    Re: Steelers select FS Gerod Holliman with their 7th Rd pick

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Not to mention that guy who wore #43...I forget his name. He had problems wrapping his arms too at times.
    It's a common theme with today's player. They all want to come in and just hit the ball carrier without wrapping up.
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