Bell suspended 3 games

[steelreserve]

Bell received one game for the marijuana possession and two for the DUI

It's funny how everyone dumps on Santonio for getting caught with a blunt and the team and fans run him out of town on a rail for a 5th rd pick, but Bell gets a pass for doing something 10X worse

I thought Holmes got caught with weed because he was pulled over and they smelled pot smoke in his vehicle. Likely doing the same exact thing, just didn't admit to it and in the absence of that, it's difficult to prove.

In my experience, most times when people get busted for "marijuana possession during a traffic stop," they were DUI but they can't prove it.

[TD's & Beer]

I thought Holmes got caught with weed because he was pulled over and they smelled pot smoke in his vehicle.

He did nothing wrong as a reason to be pulled over, just bad luck he was stoppped

WPXI-TV's website in Pittsburgh reports: "Police cited Steelers receiver Santonio Holmes on charges of marijuana possession Thursday afternoon. Pittsburgh police said Holmes was driving a SUV with out-of-state license plates near Mellon Arena. The vehicle matched the description of one linked to a crime, so officers made an investigatory stop.

'When they pulled him over, they found there was a smell of burnt marijuana in the vehicle,' said Sgt. James Vogel. 'Mr. Holmes was very cooperative with officers and turned over some items to us and was subsequently summoned for those items...a couple of marijuana blunts.' Holmes was given a summons to court and released.

Holmes was charged with "one misdemeanor count of possession of a small amount of marijuana" and released, but Sgt. James Vogel of the Pittsburgh PD wants to make it clear that Holmes was a perfect gentleman during the whole ordeal. He handed over the blunts politely and without incident, and if the NFL has a problem with that they can take it up with Sgt. Vogel.

"Holmes was very cooperative, respectful and wasn’t impaired. He thinks that should be taken into account when it comes to any potential action taken against him by the Steelers and the NFL. “We wouldn't expect a steelworker to be laid off or suspended without pay,” said Vogel. “I wouldn't expect a police officer, firefighter or a member of the Steelers.”

[teegre]

The first three games will be against the Taperiots, Ravens, and Seahawks.

The he same exact order as the last three games of the season*.

*(technically: the post season)

[steelreserve]

He did nothing wrong as a reason to be pulled over, just bad luck he was stoppped

WPXI-TV's website in Pittsburgh reports: "Police cited Steelers receiver Santonio Holmes on charges of marijuana possession Thursday afternoon. Pittsburgh police said Holmes was driving a SUV with out-of-state license plates near Mellon Arena. The vehicle matched the description of one linked to a crime, so officers made an investigatory stop.

'When they pulled him over, they found there was a smell of burnt marijuana in the vehicle,' said Sgt. James Vogel. 'Mr. Holmes was very cooperative with officers and turned over some items to us and was subsequently summoned for those items...a couple of marijuana blunts.' Holmes was given a summons to court and released.

Holmes was charged with "one misdemeanor count of possession of a small amount of marijuana" and released, but Sgt. James Vogel of the Pittsburgh PD wants to make it clear that Holmes was a perfect gentleman during the whole ordeal. He handed over the blunts politely and without incident, and if the NFL has a problem with that they can take it up with Sgt. Vogel.

"Holmes was very cooperative, respectful and wasn’t impaired. He thinks that should be taken into account when it comes to any potential action taken against him by the Steelers and the NFL. “We wouldn't expect a steelworker to be laid off or suspended without pay,” said Vogel. “I wouldn't expect a police officer, firefighter or a member of the Steelers.”

That pretty much describes what I was talking about ... maybe he wasn't visibly stoned at that particular moment, but why else would you have burnt blunts in your car. Because you smoked them in your house and then brought them out to your car to drive around with but never smoked them in the car? Or that you hotboxed your car, but always right there in your garage and never anyplace where you'd have to drive to or from to get there? Give me a break. It's 99.99% certain the dude drove around getting high on a regular basis - which is what people do who have blunts in their car - and just happened not to be stoned off his ass right at that time the cop pulled him over.

[vrabinec]

That pretty much describes what I was talking about ... maybe he wasn't visibly stoned at that particular moment, but why else would you have burnt blunts in your car. Because you smoked them in your house and then brought them out to your car to drive around with but never smoked them in the car? Or that you hotboxed your car, but always right there in your garage and never anyplace where you'd have to drive to or from to get there? Give me a break. It's 99.99% certain the dude drove around getting high on a regular basis - which is what people do who have blunts in their car - and just happened not to be stoned off his ass right at that time the cop pulled him over.

Yeah. Back in the 90's, the wife was going to get drug tested because she was starting a new job, so I had to go out to the car to get stoned so she didn't inhale any of it, but I doubt Stonio had a similar situation. Though, he probably had a bunch of people driving his car. I remember once when I was living in Buffalo, and I went to a Steeler game in Cleveland. Got stoned after the game in the parking lot, went the wrong way on 90 and ended up in Toledo instead of Buffalo.

[TD's & Beer]

That pretty much describes what I was talking about ... maybe he wasn't visibly stoned at that particular moment, but why else would you have burnt blunts in your car. Because you smoked them in your house and then brought them out to your car to drive around with but never smoked them in the car? Or that you hotboxed your car, but always right there in your garage and never anyplace where you'd have to drive to or from to get there? Give me a break. It's 99.99% certain the dude drove around getting high on a regular basis - which is what people do who have blunts in their car - and just happened not to be stoned off his ass right at that time the cop pulled him over.

oh counselor, surely you are trying to railroad my client

maybe the blunts were there from last night when some friends borrowed the car and went partying, and an innocent driver was pulled over

I merely contend that if it wasn't Bell, our star RB, that is being suspended, half the town would want him cut immediately for being a doper.

[Lady Steel]

Holmes is a cancer. There's a reason no one wants him.

[Butch]

Holmes is a cancer. There's a reason no one wants him.

He was a playmaker in big games. I could see him and Brown together and being like having Swan and Stallworth all over again. I know he will never be back as a Steeler, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it happened. Not holding my breath just sayin'.

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You know Ben got 6 games for nothing but allegations why would godell ever want to be just in doling out his punishments?

[Lady Steel]

He was a playmaker in big games. I could see him and Brown together and being like having Swan and Stallworth all over again. I know he will never be back as a Steeler, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it happened. Not holding my breath just sayin'.

I totally understand your point, but my opinion is that I think Holmes would be detrimental to the entire team in the long run. I just don't think it's worth it.

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You know Ben got 6 games for nothing but allegations why would godell ever want to be just in doling out his punishments?

Exactly! He's a poopie-head.

[Mojouw]

He was a playmaker in big games. I could see him and Brown together and being like having Swan and Stallworth all over again. I know he will never be back as a Steeler, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it happened. Not holding my breath just sayin'.

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You know Ben got 6 games for nothing but allegations why would godell ever want to be just in doling out his punishments?

At this point, injuries and ego have stolen portions of Holmes' talent. He couldn't even get on the field for the Bears last year. All that being said, if the Steelers go into camp needing another WR, they could pull a lot worse out of the 1-2 year vet reclamation pile. I thought they might have benefited from doing it last year, and wouldn't be shocked if they took a look this year - but with their track record of identifying young WR and quickly developing them, I fully expect them to find someone younger with return skills (basically young Santonio).

[steelreserve]

I merely contend that if it wasn't Bell, our star RB, that is being suspended, half the town would want him cut immediately for being a doper.

lol, you're probably right about that. I could personally care less if a guy smokes weed; probably half the team does. Too often though, for the guys who get publicly in trouble for pot, it's just one part of a bigger problem of being a jackass and carrying a whole truckload of drama with you. They give weed a bad name, so to speak. Bell hasn't really done much else to show that yet, so I'm hoping it was mainly because of the jackass in the car with him.

You're also right that if it wasn't a super-important player, the team would probably be a lot less willing to put up with it. If you can't be relied on to be available for the game, from a football perspective that makes more trouble than you're worth if you're a fourth-string linebacker who mostly plays special teams, and is probably your ticket out of town.

[fansince'76]

He was a playmaker in big games. I could see him and Brown together and being like having Swan and Stallworth all over again. I know he will never be back as a Steeler, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it happened. Not holding my breath just sayin'.

I honestly wouldn't mind Holmes coming back. I'd mind it a hell of a lot less than when Burress came back. At least he didn't badmouth the team and the city in general after he left. And yes, Holmes was partially a casualty of the Milledgeville incident with Ben.

[86WARD]

I'd take Holmes back...why not...couldn't hurt

[zulater]

I'm not sure Holmes has anything left? If so why did the Bears get rid of him last year in season?

[86WARD]

I think part of the reason was that Marques Wilson was returning from the IR. I don't think Holmes participated much (stat wise) during his time with the Bears...but then again, look who is throwing him the ball...

Chris Williams also took over the punt return duties so that kind of left Holmes as a #4 WR who wouldn't play special teams?

I'll agree he's far from what he was when he was in Pittsburgh, but I'd be willing to kick the tires as a number 3 or 4 WR...and maybe he can do some punt returns?

[tube517]

Once he goes to Arizona he will satisfy the scrap heap requirements for a return.

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[Butch]

The Bears are not exactly crack talent scouts look at how much they over paid their crappy QB. Again I would be shocked to see Santonio back in a Steelers uniform, but I wouldn't mind if it happened.

[zulater]

I think part of the reason was that Marques Wilson was returning from the IR. I don't think Holmes participated much (stat wise) during his time with the Bears...but then again, look who is throwing him the ball...

Chris Williams also took over the punt return duties so that kind of left Holmes as a #4 WR who wouldn't play special teams?

I'll agree he's far from what he was when he was in Pittsburgh, but I'd be willing to kick the tires as a number 3 or 4 WR...and maybe he can do some punt returns?

The best he would be on the Steelers is a 4. Figure Brown, Wheaton, and Bryant are pretty solidly entrenched at 1-3. Another thing to consider was part of the reason he was let go before was because he was notorious for being late and inattentive during meeting and film sessions etc.. In a more diminished role does his commitment figure to improve? Maybe I suppose? Could be that he sees this as a last chance and brings a better attitude towards the little things. But probably a better chance that he'd soon sour at not being a more prominent part of the plan and could infect the younger talent like Bryant and Wheaton. To claim there's no potential downside to bringing him in is a dismissal of lockerroom make up and attitude.

I'm not saying it couldn't work, but from the Steelers perspective given how little Holmes has shown on the field in the past couple seasons, is it really worth the risk of finding out? I would be very surprised if they brought him back.

[86WARD]

I'm not sold on Wheaton as the number 3...not yet.

[zulater]

I'm not sold on Wheaton as the number 3...not yet.

As a 3 I'm very sold on Wheaton. If Bryant lives up to expectations and is a legitimate 2 then I have no doubt in Wheaton as a 3. But if Bryant then I could see a negative impact on Wheaton.

But as of now I think both proved in the last half of the 14 season that they're legitimate NFL receivers.

[Mojouw]

I'm not sold on Wheaton as the number 3...not yet.

Why not?

He caught 61.6% of balls thrown his way (53/86) for 12.2 yards per catch. His size, speed, and game project much better as the #3/slot guy than they do outside the hashes as a pure speedster. Bryant outside with Brown and Wheaton kicking inside makes everyone better.

Just my opinion. Honestly curious about what is missing from Wheaton's game.

[Steeldude]

Why not?

He caught 61.6% of balls thrown his way (53/86) for 12.2 yards per catch. His size, speed, and game project much better as the #3/slot guy than they do outside the hashes as a pure speedster. Bryant outside with Brown and Wheaton kicking inside makes everyone better.

Just my opinion. Honestly curious about what is missing from Wheaton's game.

Wasn't he the WR that Tomlin got on multiple times because of bad routes? I am pretty sure it was Wheaton, but I am not 100% certain

[86WARD]

Why not?

He caught 61.6% of balls thrown his way (53/86) for 12.2 yards per catch. His size, speed, and game project much better as the #3/slot guy than they do outside the hashes as a pure speedster. Bryant outside with Brown and Wheaton kicking inside makes everyone better.

Just my opinion. Honestly curious about what is missing from Wheaton's game.

A lot of times, IMO, it looks like Wheaton is on a different page than the rest of the team. He doesn't look like he's always "there." There was the one game against the Browns where he had the ball thrown to him a couple times and acted more like a defender, knocking the ball down than expecting it...I'm assuming he was surprised the ball was arriving? However, in that game, I think he had close to 100 receiving?

I like Wheaton...I liked the original pick and I like his potential. I'm just not ready to hand him the #3 spot if he's not mentally there yet and it wouldn't hurt to bring in some veteran competition. Nothing would make me happier than to see him as the #3.

[Mojouw]

I totally get what everyone is saying about Wheaton looking out of sync and not always running the best routes. To be totally fair, it was basically his rookie season. Not too bad for an initial campaign. If he still looks "lost" this year -- problem.

There is this gem from his Wikipedia page:

2013 Rookie Season

After being drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers Wheaten played a stellar season, playing in 12 games for only 6 receptions for 64 yards and no touchdowns.

[CapLovesTroyP43]

I enjoyed some of those actions - he wasn't all bad

Sure as hell can't argue with those! I doubt we would have won the SB without him to be very honest.

[hawaiiansteeler]

He was a playmaker in big games.

with was being the operative word...

[Butch]

with was being the operative word...

Sure it is, he has since played on the mostly worthless jets team and was picked up by an even worse bears team who let him go. The bears who have a shitty qb who is WAY over paid so I don't put much stock in their evaluation of talent.

I would be shocked to see Santonio back in Pittsburgh, but if it happened I wouldn't be opposed to it.

I will add this how many current receivers have been proven clutch in Big games???

[hawaiiansteeler]

I would be shocked to see Santonio back in Pittsburgh, but if it happened I wouldn't be opposed to it.

I will add this how many current receivers have been proven clutch in Big games???

do you mean clutch in Big games seven years ago?

[Butch]

do you mean clutch in Big games seven years ago?

Again who has been clutch since he left?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Again who has been clutch since he left?

certainly not Sanstonio, no matter where he's played...