Interesting Article on Why Jarvis Jones is Terrible

[Dwinsgames]

SMDH....if that is true, my god have i lost a lot of respect for colbert

it is as true as the letters I am typing now ....

I am not 100% sure but believe it was in one of his pressers ... but he did say it and I did hear it

[one side only]

If Kevin Colbert said anything like that, do you think he meant the Steelers purposely leave players they have evaluated as better, to choose a lesser player, with the intent of filling the practice squad? Complete and utter nonsense.

[Mojouw]

it is as true as the letters I am typing now ....

I am not 100% sure but believe it was in one of his pressers ... but he did say it and I did hear it

I sorta remember that as well. But wasn't it after like the Arizona SB victory or something? I kind of feel like it was in the context of a situation where 18 of 22 starting spots were locked down by above average or better players, there was some solid depth, etc. In that case, after the 4th round or so, you aren't getting a "starter" on a loaded championship team. You are drafting developmental projects etc.

For instance, if that was indeed the time that Colbert said the quote, then in that time period McCullers is on the practice squad and never sees a "hat" on gamedays. Is he still a good pick?

Now if Colbert said it like 2 years ago -- then yet another in a series of his weird grumpy old man notions.

[Dwinsgames]

I sorta remember that as well. But wasn't it after like the Arizona SB victory or something? I kind of feel like it was in the context of a situation where 18 of 22 starting spots were locked down by above average or better players, there was some solid depth, etc. In that case, after the 4th round or so, you aren't getting a "starter" on a loaded championship team. You are drafting developmental projects etc.

For instance, if that was indeed the time that Colbert said the quote, then in that time period McCullers is on the practice squad and never sees a "hat" on gamedays. Is he still a good pick?

Now if Colbert said it like 2 years ago -- then yet another in a series of his weird grumpy old man notions.

I honestly can not recall " WHEN " he said it but know he said it ....

regardless of time frame *for me* you never look to fill your practice squad with draft picks ... you look to build competition on your roster and improve your team

[one side only]

The purposes of the practice squad are to develop players not quite ready for the NFL, to stash players the coach / GM believe may help the team at some point during the season as an injury or performance replacement, as a way to expand the bottom of the roster (some teams make practice squad transactions often), and to keep players that contribute on the scout team. Development of players is the primary reason practice squads exist, especially since the demise of NFL Europe.

[Dwinsgames]

The purposes of the practice squad are to develop players not quite ready for the NFL, to stash players the coach / GM believe may help the team at some point during the season as an injury or performance replacement, as a way to expand the bottom of the roster (some teams make practice squad transactions often), and to keep players that contribute on the scout team. Development of players is the primary reason practice squads exist, especially since the demise of NFL Europe.

and for me .... that player pool should come via UDFA pick ups

[zulater]

pretty much my point ... except ....... Colbert publicly stated a few years back after the 4th round he is looking for practice squad players , I do not have a link because it was on TV but I am sure someone printed it someplace ...

I do not subscibe to that methodology every pick should IMO be used to better the team and create a greater level of competition for jobs and consequently you end up with a deeper squad ..part of our problem is squandered picks in the mid to late rounds ..sure once in a blue moon you walk away with a hidden gem but you should never leave greater talent on the board for a pet project

I thought it was special teams players he was looking for in later rounds. Not exclusively, but in other words the later you're drafted the more it's going to help you make the squad if you can come right in and be an impactful player on special teams.

And regardless of what he said or what he might have meant, Kelvin Beachum, and Antonio Brown were both drafted after the 4th round by Colbert and have turned out pretty good. So relax everyone.

[hawaiiansteeler]

SteelByDesign: Jarvis Jones: over/under 7.5 sacks in 2015?

Ray Fittipaldo: That's a good number. I'll guess under.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201505180152

[zulater]

SteelByDesign: Jarvis Jones: over/under 7.5 sacks in 2015?

Ray Fittipaldo: That's a good number. I'll guess under.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201505180152

What did he get, 2 sacks in 3 games this year, before going out with a broken wrist? I think what we're going to find is that he will be best used as a situational pass rusher. I don't think he can hold the edge on the run effectively. Anyway if used right I could see something along the lines of 7.5-9.5 sacks. But I don't think he'll ever prove to be worth a first round pick. (hope I'm proven wrong) So if I had to bet ( and I don't, nor will I ) I would probably be looking at a push. I think he'll end up right at that number.

[polamalubeast]

under

[steelreserve]

denverdog: Curious as to how many TE they normally keep and your best guess who they will be this year

Ray Fittipaldo: They kept four last year if you count Will Johnson, who is more of an H-back now. It was Johnson, Heath Miller, Matt Spaeth and Michael Palmer. Palmer was not re-signed so I would imagine it would come down to Rob Blanchflower and rookie Jesse James for the last spot

Out of everything in the entire article, this just made my day.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Ike Taylor Has High Expectations For Jarvis Jones In 2015

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05...jones-in-2015/

[Mojouw]

Tape doesn't lie. Jones has such a long way to go.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05...e-pass-rusher/

[Steeldude]

Here is an article on Jarvis Jones vs the run

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05...s-run-defense/

[polamalubeast]

Here is an article on Jarvis Jones vs the run

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05...s-run-defense/

The steelers were horrible against the run in the first 2-3 games......