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ESPN Steelers reporter Scott Brown discusses the type of punishment running back Le'Veon Bell might receive from the NFL after getting sentenced to 15 months probation for his arrest on marijuana possession.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=122...espnapi_public
It is fair that Le'Veon gets suspended, but if Bitchmode doesn't get the same suspension, I will be pissed
What sentence did Blount get?
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Be pissed then, because Sucker Punch isn't getting shit for punishment. He's going to skate just like his POS cheating team.
Charges dropped
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Lol...which means he'll get off With nothing and bell will get a suspension...I might lose my shit...
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Bell was driving.
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Bell was the driver and was also foolish enough to admit to being under the influence, and further compounded it by stating he didn't realize driving under the influence of marijuana was illegal. Had he just kept his mouth shut like Blount did he probably would have got off scot- free. Or got the same minimal punishment as Blount did . Because if LeVeon had merely claimed the others were smoking in the car and he hadn't it's hard to quantify level of intoxication with cannibas. Even a positive drug test wouldn't have indicated how high if at all he was when the car got pulled over. In other words his own comments convicted him.
Hopefully this will only be a one game suspension. And if we are forced to open at Gillete against the Patriots that might not be the worst thing. That game was going to be a long shot to win any way you cut it. So if you lose LeVeon for that one game chances are your end of season record isn't effected.
Of course knowing Goodell he'll make it two games and then make surethe Ravens visit Pittsburgh week 2.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
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Bell isn't as an experienced dickhead as that POS Who Shall Not Be Named.Bell was the driver and was also foolish enough to admit to being under the influence, and further compounded it by stating he didn't realize driving under the influence of marijuana was illegal. Had he just kept his mouth shut like Blount did he probably would have got off scot- free. Or got the same minimal punishment as Blount did . Because if LeVeon had merely claimed the others were smoking in the car and he hadn't it's hard to quantify level of intoxication with cannibas. Even a positive drug test wouldn't have indicated how high if at all he was when the car got pulled over. In other words his own comments convicted him.
Hopefully this will only be a one game suspension. And if we are forced to open at Gillete against the Patriots that might not be the worst thing. That game was going to be a long shot to win any way you cut it. So if you lose LeVeon for that one game chances are your end of season record isn't effected.
Of course knowing Goodell he'll make it two games and then make surethe Ravens visit Pittsburgh week 2.
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Better draft a very good back up….need one regardless.
Goodell set a precedence when he suspended Ben, who was still under investigation, for the integrate of the game. He has since seemed to ignore that precedence at will, in a few instances. I see no reason to think he will not continue to pick and choose where and when to apply, rules and opinions he himself has set in place, at least as long as he seems to have no one to answer to. For instance, Ben got the penalty he got on suspicions. Rice got 2 game for beating the shit out of a woman in an elevator.
If you are looking for a fair and honest ruling, you are looking in the wrong place in Goodell.
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I was thinking Bell would get 1 or 2 games while Bitchmode gets off scott-free then Gestapo Goodell schedules the Steelers to play the Cheats in the home opener. I am already mentally preparing myself for it.
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Goodell only suspends Steeler players unless a media firestorm erupts. Heck he was going to give Ray Rice 2 games less for knocking out his wife than Ben got for baseless charges that didn't lead to criminal charges
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This no earthly way that Goodell would let the World Champion New England Patriots* lose their Thursday night opener. Who ever they play, it's a guaranteed Big, Fat L.
Bell will get 1-2 games for sure. DUI is now a mandatory 1-3 game suspension - regardless of circumstance or priors.
Pot is basically nothing under the new rules. So Blount, who was not operating the vehicle. will get put in the treatment protocols at worst.
That means Bell will be suspended. It is all comical at best, but Herr Goodell has made it clear that image is all the NFL cares about.
Riding in a car blunted is not as bad as driving on in the same condition. Hence Bell gets suspended and Blount rolls on.
A very good post.
I agree that Bell will be suspended, and should be. I also agree that Blount will not be suspended, but in a league that has suspended players because he put himself in a situation that draws bad publicity to the league Blount should be suspended a game. It has been a growing view that the NFL is filled with pot heads, true or not, and to gloss this over now is a mistake, and unfair to the players that have been suspended in the past. If the use of marijuana is not longer important to the NFL they should say so, and in essence make the use of this illegal drug legal to the NFL.
What I would like is a fair and equal application of rules to all players, no matter who they are or what team they play for.
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I totally agree that the NFL hands out punishment seemingly at random. My guess is it is best on their understanding of public outrage at any given instance.
As for the DUI and pot rules - the NFL has made it pretty clear where it stands on both.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/1...-details-nflpa
Based on this article, they traded a tough PED policy (what the NFL suits wanted) for a lax recreational drug policy (what the union wanted)
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...ormone-testing
My comparisons is not Bell and Blount but the leagues insistence of condemning curtain players on the appearance, or perception of guilt. Just my opinion, but I think that both Bell and Blount should have been tested for the substance when the event occurred, and then move on from there. When I was still working, this is what would of happen in this instance. Again I don't know were this would stand on the leagues agreement, or current policies. It's just something that make sense to me, if they truly do want to protect the integrity of the game.
Hell,,,, I'm just blowing off steam right now.
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Well, according to the NFLPA contract, Bell gets a two-suspension. Cut and dried with no argument.
That is Bell's fault and no one elses.A two-game suspension will be issued upon conviction or plea agreement for driving under the influence.
And as for the favorite—OMG Goodell HAteZ US! Mantra and scheduling. Well . . . he has nothing to do with it. He's not even allowed into the room where it happens, nor is anyone else.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/24/making...-nfl-schedule/
IF we end up playing the Pats* first game next year without Bell. It's Bells fault completely, totally, and only. It's not Goodell's, the League's, the toothfairy's or Bigfoot's fault. He made the stupid choice, he suffers the consequences as does his team.
Shit...I forgot that about him admitting it and then saying he didn't realize it was illegal...lol.Bell was the driver and was also foolish enough to admit to being under the influence, and further compounded it by stating he didn't realize driving under the influence of marijuana was illegal. Had he just kept his mouth shut like Blount did he probably would have got off scot- free. Or got the same minimal punishment as Blount did . Because if LeVeon had merely claimed the others were smoking in the car and he hadn't it's hard to quantify level of intoxication with cannibas. Even a positive drug test wouldn't have indicated how high if at all he was when the car got pulled over. In other words his own comments convicted him.
Hopefully this will only be a one game suspension. And if we are forced to open at Gillete against the Patriots that might not be the worst thing. That game was going to be a long shot to win any way you cut it. So if you lose LeVeon for that one game chances are your end of season record isn't effected.
Of course knowing Goodell he'll make it two games and then make surethe Ravens visit Pittsburgh week 2.
It is aggravating that all of these punishments are so inconsistent, but the whole thing boils down to the so called crimes being committed in the first place. Let's all remember that these guys are so called athletes and should know by the age they are what is right and/or wrong. Also, they have to have been told by team officials what the rules and regulations are, and what will be tolerated and what won't be.....NFL rules included. So, when these over aged kids go out and screw up in public they have to know there will be punishments when caught. Plain and simple. We all know what our places of employment will except or not. I agree it is getting real tiresome of how the damn commish looks away when it concerns his precious assholes, but the whole thing comes down to when you're a professional, act the part. Maybe stay behind closed doors to party !
The new substance abuse policy should eliminate the inconsistency in the punishments.
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"should" is the key word.
I still have ZERO confidence in this league and the incompetent commissioner.
August 30, 2011 | Filed in: 2011 Training Camp, Ben Volin.
It’s official – Brandon Marshall will not face any discipline from the NFL for his off-field incident this past April.NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that since no charges were filed in the incident, Marshall is not subject to discipline under the NFL’s personal conduct policy.
The announcement by the league puts an end to a troubled summer for Marshall, who was allegedly stabbed in the stomach by his wife during a domestic dispute at their home. His wife was initially arrested and charged with felony battery, but the charges were dropped last month due to lack of evidence.
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I guess Ben plays in Canada?
That right there showed the corruption that is Roger Goodell.
There are two different policies in play here.
One is the personal conduct policy - which basically allows Goodell to run around suspending folks willy-nilly and without a ton of oversight. However, after the Ray Rice situation this seems to be changing - but who really knows. The NFL has used the personal conduct policy as an excuse to "protect the shield" which has been their nonsense statement for punishing any player whose transgressions actually garner national media attention and hand-wringing and pearl grabbing on the internet accompanied by cries of "won't someone think of the children!". When this happens, the NFL then suspends the player some seemingly random amount of games. Ben's situation looked like he had his henchmen assist him in raping some drunk co-ed in a bar in bumblecrap Georgia (fits with the stereotypes of entitled athletes). Marshall's situation looked like his crazy wife attempted to murder him (fits with the narrative of bitches be crazy). I am not attempting to say that is what actually happened in either case - simply that is what the vast majority of the public assumed happened. The NFL then used the personal conduct policy to punish each player based on the public outrage from each incident. Personal Conduct Policy suspensions are not about an actual fair and balanced weighing of the evidence, but rather public relations motivated decisions that allow the NFL to keep basically printing money.
In direct contrast, the substance abuse policy(s) are actually laid out in black and white and signed off on by the NFL and NFLPA. So Bell's suspension is automatic and essentially non-debatable.
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Wait, what? You think the victim should be disciplined?
And as for the "self defense" part of it . . ..April 22, 2011: Michi Nogami-Marshall, the women whom Marshall married three weeks prior, is arrested and jailed after she admits to police she stabbed her husband with a kitchen knife in self-defense. Marshall is hospitalized following emergency surgery to repair a non-life threatening stab wound to his stomach.
Yeah. He later said she didn't stab him, but truth be told, that sounds a lot more like "We want to put this behind us" than "I made up a lie and stabbed myself and then my wife confessed to doing it."June 10, 2011: Nogami-Marshall is arrested after violating restraining order to stay away from Brandon Marshall and the couple’s home.
I wouldn't want any victim punish, no matter if his name is Brandon, or Ben. How ever, Ben was punished. Punish more harshly than Rice was for beating the hell out of his wife. Personally, I think the commissioner owes Ben an apology at the very least.
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Put him on the list right after Robert Kraft...
Did you miss this part below?
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that since no charges were filed in the incident, Marshall is not subject to discipline under the NFL’s personal conduct policy.
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How was Marshall not subject to PCP discipline, but Ben was, when NEITHER were charged, and play in the same league?
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Steelers still awaiting word from NFL on probable Bell suspension
Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert on Tuesday said that the organization didn't yet know of any plans by the NFL to discipline running back Le'Veon Bell relating to his August DUI arrest, but did say the team was preparing like they would be without their leading rusher at some point.
That's because a change in the NFL's substance abuse policy that went into effect on Nov. 1 mandates a two-game suspension for any player who is convicted or admits to a violation of the law.
Bell was given 15 months of probation and admitted into the Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition program for first-time, non-violent offenders during a hearing with Common Pleas Judge Robert C. Gallo on Feb. 6, thus making him eligible for a two-game suspension.
ESPN reported on Wednesday that Bell's suspension will be the first two games of the season, which starts Labor Day weekend.
“The policy has been spelled out, at least in terms of this is what it is,” Colbert said. “How they will interpret it, we have no idea. We won't get any kind of league time on that. If anything happens it will happen. We will have to adjust. We have to be prepared for that.”
Bell's agent, Adisa Bakari, did not return a message.
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/...#axzz3RbEyPEvL
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Tell me again why Marshall should be discplined for being stabbed. You seem to have forgotten that little part. Ben wasn't disciplined for being a rape victim. He was disciplined for putting himself in that situation where he was, supposedly, the aggressor.
If I read this right, then Bell shouldn't be subjected to the automatic 2-game suspension because his violation occured before that policy went into effect.
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