http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/19/new...hick-tom-brady
Did the Patriots really illegally deflate footballs in the AFC Championship Game, as the NFL is investigating? Well, put it this way: There have been a lot of unbelievable NFL stories this season.
This is not one of them.
I don't know what's more aggravating the Patriots seeking an illegal edge or their sycophant fans running interference denying any relevance for this or any former offense. In a sense when they deny that cheating gives a team an advantage they are in fact saying their coach is illogical. Because even an animal calculates risk-reward into their choices, so if cheating is proved they're essentially claiming that Bellichick is dumber than a dog.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
Everybody keeps asking "What's the big deal? A couple PSI difference isn't why the Colts got whipped anyways."
That may be true but it's a big deal because it establishes a pattern of cheating any time their given the chance. I know it wouldn't have made much difference in the game but I hope it ends up true because it just shines a brighter light on them and their cheating ways.
Partially true. The balls are selected by each team. Mainly the QB. The balls are then scuffed, rubbed, whatever. Given to the officials to be checked and marked. If there is an inflation problem, then the officiating crew inflates, deflates,mwhatever to make the balls legal. Then they balls are returned to the team and that's where the aches ting happens...
Cheating is doing something outside the rules to gain an unfair advantage. That is exactly what the pats did yesterday. My question is (and I apologize if this has already been brought up in this thread), wouldn't the officials have noticed that the balls were different? If so, break out my tin foil hat, the fix was on!
Seriously though, Pete Rose has been banned for life from baseball for betting and Bellicheat keeps getting the slaps on the wrist. Not saying that Bellicheat should be banned for life, but a hefty fine, loss of significant draft choices and several game suspension, shouldn't be out of the question. Especially if this proves to be true (the saggy balls ), he would become a two time offender.
BLAH!!!Forever loving and missing you Gal.
Mayb e the Colts only got the fat balls while the Pats had their choice of convenience?
All Defense!
Report: Pick led to NFL's probe
An interception by Indianapolis Colts linebacker D'Qwell Jackson during Sunday's AFC Championship Game is what initially led to an NFL investigation into whether the New England Patriots intentionally deflated footballs during their rain-soaked victory, Newsday is reporting.
The newspaper, citing a person familiar with background of the matter, reported that Jackson, following his second-quarter interception, gave the ball to a member of the Colts' equipment staff, who noticed it was not fully inflated and informed Indianapolis coach Chuck Pagano.
According to the Newsday report, as well as WCVB-TV in Boston, Colts general manager Ryan Grigson was alerted about the ball in the Gillette Stadium press box. Grigson contacted NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, who then told game officials during halftime.....
read more @ http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...sportscenterFB
On Monday, a league spokesman confirmed to ESPN that the NFL is investigating the matter. Vice president of football operations Troy Vincent told Pro Football Talk on Tuesday that the investigation will be completed within the next two to three days, but did not specify when the findings of the investigation would be announced.
Yep, gonna "Officer Barbrady" this one for sure. It also doesn't help that Vincent is an ex-Patriot*.
UPDATE: It looks like Deflategate may be coming to a conclusion just in time to focus on the Super Bowl.
NFL Expects to Wrap Up Patriots 'Deflategate' Investigation in Next 2-3 Days
Steve Silva
@stevesilva
Boston.com Staff
NFL executive VP of football operations Troy Vincent, speaking on Pro Football Talk Live on NBC Sports radio Tuesday, said the investigation into the Patriots alleged use of under-inflated footballs in the AFC Championship game should be coming to a close soon.
"We’re hoping to wrap that up in the next two or three days," Vincent said. "The team is in place in New England now interviewing staff members."
Read More: http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...ls_for_af.html
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Hmmmmmm....have to assume the balls did not weigh out correctly.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
"We’re hoping to wrap that up in the next two or three days," Vincent said. "The team is in place in New England now interviewing staff members."
I can imagine the "interviews" now...
NFL Rep: "Did you or anyone else on the team's staff deflate any of the footballs allotted to you for the game?"
Pats Staffer: "No."
NFL Rep: "Works for me."
Wrap up equals destroying all evidence.
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Soooooooooo, the officials, the ones that handled the ball before every snap, did not notice the underinflated footballs until someone on the Colts staff brought it to their attention. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK.
In other news. The suspect balls where given to the NE equipment manager to be delivered to the investigation committee. On arrival the footballs were found to be inflated properly. Because of the lack of evidence Roger Goodell declared the case be closed and the ball be destroyed, along with the air pump found in the equipment managers car.
AML
the story will say the ball boy did it .
we must never forget tell everyone you know New England cheated and might be back at it Edit 1-21-15 there back Edit #2__12-8-19 here we go again Edit #3__ 5-25-23 it never ends
NFL has found that 11 of the Patriots footballs used in Sunday’s AFC title game were under-inflated by 2 lbs each, per league sources. Tweet from Chris Mortenson
"A man's got to know his limitations."
What balls, we never received any balls, and the person that signed for them is on a 10 month vacation to someplace in Argentina.
Sorry, I hope I am wrong, but it seem this story has been played out before with little or no results. Maybe this will end with a satisfactory ending, and maybe Santa will be found living in a magical village at the North Pole.
AML
This is huge. Assuming the Colts balls all stayed at pre game inflation levels this is a scandal. 11 balls, all 2 lbs under inflated, that's pre meditation. They knew they weren't allowed to do it but did it anyway. The final score is inconsequential. It's cheating plain and simple. It's not heat of the moment, it's pre meditated. It's given the league a black eye going into their showcase game. Bellichick and Kraft should both be banned for at least a season. Possibly Brady too. I'm sure those balls were doctored to his exact specifications.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
Here's the tweet Zu alluded to:
If the NFL doesn't do something about this, I'm done. Completely. Including Steelers games (which is all I watch anymore anyway). They let this shit slide, and they're nothing more than a high rent version of the WWE.
11 of 12 Pats' footballs under-inflated
The New England Patriots had 11 of their 12 allotted game footballs under-inflated by 2 pounds of air (PSI) less than what's required by NFL regulations, according to league sources either involved or familiar with the investigation of Sunday's AFC championship game when the Patriots beat the Colts 45-7 to advance to their sixth Super Bowl.
"We are not commenting at this time," said Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications.
http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id...mpionship-game
How the League can continue to let this stuff go on is beyond me. The cheating bastards need to be stopped, and Goodell needs to be ousted.
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And now the Ratbirds chime in. This is gettin' juicy!
Some Ravens think footballs were under-inflated vs. Patriots
Some of the Baltimore Ravens believe kicking balls used in their playoff game at New England were slightly under-inflated, according to league sources.
With the Patriots under investigation for possibly under-inflating balls in their playoff win against the Colts, sources said some on Baltimore's sideline believed there may have been irregularities with the kicking balls used in their AFC divisional playoff game at Foxborough, Mass., on Jan. 10.
Baltimore's kicking and punting units were not getting their normal depth and distance, and some believed the balls they were using may have been deflated.
An NFL spokesman said he had no knowledge of the Ravens filing a complaint.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...ed-vs-patriots
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wow. I don't know what to say about this.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Go Hawks. Yeah, that means those whiny simp fans will get to pound their chests for another year, but it is FAR preferable to having the Pats* cheat their way to another championship, and probably with the NFL's blessing. There is no other team nor fan base in all of the years I have watched pro sports that I loathe more than the Patriots*. Not even Dallas or Baltimore.