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    Soooooooooo tired of the political circus. We the people are just electing the best of the worst. Sometimes not even the best. Are there no real leaders left that have the means to run for president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Soooooooooo tired of the political circus. We the people are just electing the best of the worst. Sometimes not even the best. Are there no real leaders left that have the means to run for president?
    The problem isn't that there aren't any good people left. The problem is that people won't elect them. *Truly* upright and honest candidates don't stand a chance these days. The electorate would rather be lied to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    The problem isn't that there aren't any good people left. The problem is that people won't elect them. *Truly* upright and honest candidates don't stand a chance these days. The electorate would rather be lied to.

    And I hate the lazy answer, "They are all the same". They are not all the same. If change does not begin in us, we will continue to get the government we deserve. I have to put up with 4 or more years of pretty boy Trudeau. Disgusting.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Election

    I have no idea how the US got to a place where the desicion may come down to Sanders and Trump. If I'm forced to, I'll pull the lever for Trump because the alternative is so much worse




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindes204 View Post
    I have no idea how the US got to a place where the desicion may come down to Sanders and Trump. If I'm forced to, I'll pull the lever for Trump because the alternative is so much worse
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindes204 View Post
    I have no idea how the US got to a place where the desicion may come down to Sanders and Trump. If I'm forced to, I'll pull the lever for Trump because the alternative is so much worse

    I'd like to see that because of what a complete circus it would be (although Trump vs. Hillary would be too).

    I get the feeling that if it was Trump vs. Hillary, Trump could win because Hillary is so terrible that even most voters in her own party hate her. And she would look like a complete idiot debating him (not the least reason being that she actually is a complete idiot). Nobody's going to rally behind her.

    If it was Trump vs. Sanders, Trump may have pissed off too many people to win. There are slightly more Democrats than Republicans, so the message of "free shit" is going to win against "I'm a huge asshole but I'll fix the country."

    The way I see it, whoever wins the election is going to be a huge asshole anyway (or bitch, to be politically correct), so I'd rather not sign up for 4 more years of Obama's economic death ride.
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    Re: 2016 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    Yeah, well,

    According to Cruz, [I]It feels Good to Be Clinton.


    Does it mean I'm a dork if I slowed down the video to see if I could identify what kind of computer it was?

    Based on the yellow-brown motherboard with FIVE old-school PCI slots, and the placement of the capacitors (0:22), plus the apparent 3.5" floppy drive (0:08), my best guess is the motherboard is the Asus A8V Deluxe:

    http://techreport.com/review/7270/as...-motherboard/2

    That would make it a Socket 939 Athlon 64-based machine from around 2004, maybe 2005. Suffice to say, Hillary is not a gamer. This almost certainly would've been a Windows XP machine, so I hope no one was using it between April 2014 and the time the video was made.

    edit: At the end of the video, it looks like there's some kind of add-on card, possibly an AGP graphics card. Maybe Hillary WAS a gamer after all!
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    If the two main presidential candidates are Trump and Clinton or Trump and Sanders it will show just how stupid the country is. It will also guarantee that a liberal who will institute liberal policies will be the next president and that Scalia's replacement will be a liberal regardless of whether that replacement is appointed this year or next year. Not to mention the fact that Trump stands no chance in a general election. I for one will not be voting for Trump in the general election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    If the two main presidential candidates are Trump and Clinton or Trump and Sanders it will show just how stupid the country is. It will also guarantee that a liberal who will institute liberal policies will be the next president and that Scalia's replacement will be a liberal regardless of whether that replacement is appointed this year or next year. Not to mention the fact that Trump stands no chance in a general election. I for one will not be voting for Trump in the general election.
    If it comes down to Trump and Sanders, I will be pulling the lever for Trump - this country has had all the "fundamental transformation" over the last 8 years that I care to see.

    Ah hell, scratch that, if it winds up being Trump vs. Clinton, I'll vote for Trump as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    If it comes down to Trump and Sanders, I will be pulling the lever for Trump - this country has had all the "fundamental transformation" over the last 8 years that I care to see.

    Ah hell, scratch that, if it winds up being Trump vs. Clinton, I'll vote for Trump as well.

    I can tell you I'll basically be voting for whoever the Republicans put out there, not necessarily because I'm a huge fan of the Republicans, but because both potential nominees from the Democrats are a complete joke.

    What I really don't understand is how completely blind the Hillary/Sanders supporters have to be in order to buy the BS that's being spouted. It's all about income inequality, racial tension, and the middle class getting shafted. Well, guess what - have those things gotten better, or worse under the last 8 years of ultra-liberal rule? The entire party platform is based on complaining about social problems while actively doing things that make them even worse. And the solution is to double down on more of the same thing that has made the situation worse? That's almost retarded. (edit: scratch "almost.")

    Racial tension is not improved by having more PC Thought Police - it just pisses people off even more.

    Raising taxes is not "sticking it to the rich" or "sticking it to the corporations" - they just build it into their business model, so things cost more and people get paid less.

    More government spending does not benefit the middle class - the benefits go to the dirt-poor and to citizens of Mexico.

    Basically, the only thing you're doing by supporting any of this shit is "sticking it" to yourself. Completely unfathomable to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    I can tell you I'll basically be voting for whoever the Republicans put out there, not necessarily because I'm a huge fan of the Republicans, but because both potential nominees from the Democrats are a complete joke.
    And the kicker is, living in California, your vote will also essentially be rendered meaningless, because those 55 electoral votes are going to the Democrat, regardless of who it is. And Colorado (where I live) really isn't any better on that front. Here, you've got the small towns (Kiowa, Salida, Rifle, etc.) that all lean right and then you've got the Denver/Aurora/Boulder metroplex (that leans FAR left, especially Boulder) where the vast majority of people live.

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    What I really don't understand is how completely blind the Hillary/Sanders supporters have to be in order to buy the BS that's being spouted. It's all about income inequality, racial tension, and the middle class getting shafted. Well, guess what - have those things gotten better, or worse under the last 8 years of ultra-liberal rule? The entire party platform is based on complaining about social problems while actively doing things that make them even worse. And the solution is to double down on more of the same thing that has made the situation worse? That's almost retarded. (edit: scratch "almost.")

    Racial tension is not improved by having more PC Thought Police - it just pisses people off even more.
    Bu-bu-but, FREE STUFF!

    And yes, the pervasive "White Guilt" culture in this country that has been championed by these clowns has been ever so helpful in mending fences.

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Raising taxes is not "sticking it to the rich" or "sticking it to the corporations" - they just build it into their business model, so things cost more and people get paid less.

    More government spending does not benefit the middle class - the benefits go to the dirt-poor and to citizens of Mexico.

    Basically, the only thing you're doing by supporting any of this shit is "sticking it" to yourself. Completely unfathomable to me.
    Or in the case of corporations that have the resources to do so, they just move their operations out of the country entirely and the jobs with them. We've already got the highest corporate tax rate in the world, but yeah, let's stick it to those "evil" corporations some more! Not only that, let's also bury small businesses under so many regulations and fees (taxes) that they can't operate, period! Brilliant! And of course, the $15 minimum wage for those who choose to make a "career" at McDonalds, which is the magic bulliet that will cure everything that ails us...

    But, once again, FREE STUFF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    And the kicker is, living in California, your vote will also essentially be rendered meaningless, because those 55 electoral votes are going to the Democrat, regardless of who it is. And Colorado (where I live) really isn't any better on that front. Here, you've got the small towns (Kiowa, Salida, Rifle, etc.) that all lean right and then you've got the Denver/Aurora/Boulder metroplex (that leans FAR left, especially Boulder) where the vast majority of people live.

    A major reason why I wrote in Batman for the presidential election last time (really). Even better, for statewide offices, California changed their primary voting system to take the two highest vote-getters regardless of party, so the Democrats are managing to keep everyone but themselves from even being on the ballot for Senate and Congressional seats too.

    So this year we have the retirement of Barbara Boxer (D), quite likely the stupidest person ever to have graced the floor of the U.S. Senate. And the two choices to replace her are Kamala Harris (D), one of approximately two people even dumber than Boxer, and Loretta Sanchez (D), the only person dumber than Harris.

    You would think that the Republican party would have been fighting for years to prevent that type of crap, and to have California split its electoral votes like Nebraska and a couple other states, but I guess not. Instead the Democrats get a free 10% in the general election. I really don't understand how the majority in this state remains so stupid, since all the problems the liberals complain about nationally are magnified even more here, by even more incompetent government. You'd imagine that after a point, people would wake up and figure out, "Holy shit - WE'RE the ones causing all this shit!" But that's not in keeping with the liberal mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    A major reason why I wrote in Batman for the presidential election last time (really). Even better, for statewide offices, California changed their primary voting system to take the two highest vote-getters regardless of party, so the Democrats are managing to keep everyone but themselves from even being on the ballot for Senate and Congressional seats too.

    So this year we have the retirement of Barbara Boxer (D), quite likely the stupidest person ever to have graced the floor of the U.S. Senate. And the two choices to replace her are Kamala Harris (D), one of approximately two people even dumber than Boxer, and Loretta Sanchez (D), the only person dumber than Harris.

    You would think that the Republican party would have been fighting for years to prevent that type of crap, and to have California split its electoral votes like Nebraska and a couple other states, but I guess not. Instead the Democrats get a free 10% in the general election. I really don't understand how the majority in this state remains so stupid, since all the problems the liberals complain about nationally are magnified even more here, by even more incompetent government. You'd imagine that after a point, people would wake up and figure out, "Holy shit - WE'RE the ones causing all this shit!" But that's not in keeping with the liberal mentality.
    I'm thinking of writing in Howard the Duck - if he was good enough in '76, he's good enough in '16, dammit!









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    I just have this deep, sick feeling that Hillary is going to be voted in no matter what and it makes me want to vomit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salamander View Post
    I just have this deep, sick feeling that Hillary is going to be voted in no matter what and it makes me want to vomit.
    I think they could fill up so many buckets with barf that they could export it to ... someplace where they eat barf ... and close the entire trade deficit. Are any countries run by dogs?

    I guess on the bright side, if Hillary is elected, it means four years of nothing. That's marginally better than four years of attempted socialism (or should I say even more socialism). Man, am I glad that even if one of the Democrat morons wins, the Republicans will still have a chokehold on Congress and at least prevent any of the really stupid shit from getting done.
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    It's becoming apparent that Donald Trump is going to be the Republican nominee. Gawd, people are gullible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    It's becoming apparent that Donald Trump is going to be the Republican nominee. Gawd, people are gullible!
    The good news is ĄJeb! threw in the towel.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Election

    Conservatives Start Spending To Block Obama Supreme Court Nominee
    Group pledges seven-figure ad buy to buck up the GOP's obstruction.

    Threatening to block any SCOTUS nomination Obama might make is absolutely unprecedented! Unprecedented, I tell you! Damn racist obstructionist Republicans!




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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Threatening to block any SCOTUS nomination Obama might make is absolutely unprecedented! Unprecedented, I tell you! Damn racist obstructionist Republicans!

    Yeah, I love how Obama is calling on the Republicans in Congress to "do their jobs" and approve a nominee ... as if rubber-stamping an idiot nominated by another idiot is doing their job.

    Actually, I think it's kind of their job NOT to let that happen if they have a choice. And since I doubt the people who voted for them want it either, in fact that's exactly what their job is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    It's becoming apparent that Donald Trump is going to be the Republican nominee. Gawd, people are gullible!
    I will probably write in Ted Cruz then just to say I that I voted for a conservative in the 2016 election

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Yeah, I love how Obama is calling on the Republicans in Congress to "do their jobs" and approve a nominee ... as if rubber-stamping an idiot nominated by another idiot is doing their job.

    Actually, I think it's kind of their job NOT to let that happen if they have a choice. And since I doubt the people who voted for them want it either, in fact that's exactly what their job is.
    Exactly. Obama as POTUS is a fuckup that has lasted 8 years (and is thankfully nearing its end). An Obama-nominated SCOTUS justice is a fuckup that could potentially last for decades, and it's pretty much a guarantee that anyone he nominates is going to make Bernie Sanders look like Ronald Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Exactly. Obama as POTUS is a fuckup that has lasted 8 years (and is thankfully nearing its end). An Obama-nominated SCOTUS justice is a fuckup that could potentially last for decades, and it's pretty much a guarantee that anyone he nominates is going to make Bernie Sanders look like Ronald Reagan.

    but ... but ... wouldn't it be cool if we had another WOMAN as a Supreme Court justice? Or a MINORITY? Because being superficially symbolic is the smart way to run, I don't know, the most important legal institution in the WORLD.

    Man, I just cannot believe what a dipshit we have for a president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    As much as I dislike her, a Hillary Clinton presidency is far and away a better presidency than a Bernie Sanders joke.
    Clinton will get the old people and some minorities to vote for her, especially women. I don't see any normal tax paying American man even considering voting for that hag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLD View Post
    Clinton will get the old people and some minorities to vote for her, especially women. I don't see any normal tax paying American man even considering voting for that hag.
    Unfortunately, the American people are dumber than you give them credit for.

    RCP numbers for Trump vs. Clinton:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

    The Republican base is running to nominate the one candidate in the field who can't beat Hillary. All the other Republicans beat her handily.

    We live in interesting times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Unfortunately, the American people are dumber than you give them credit for.

    RCP numbers for Trump vs. Clinton:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

    The Republican base is running to nominate the one candidate in the field who can't beat Hillary. All the other Republicans beat her handily.

    We live in interesting times...
    Well, with any luck, the government will prove me wrong in my belief that it's completely rotten and corrupt to the core and she'll be facing prosecution pretty soon. I'm starting to wonder exactly how much more evidence does the FBI need?

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    I think Trump has a very good chance of beating Hillary in the general election, and here's why: The more people are actually paying attention, the worse Hillary does. Once it moves to the general election, all the "swing" voters will realize very quickly that Hillary is no better of a person than Trump. So their choice is between someone who is unlikeable but quite possibly knows what he's doing, and someone just as unlikeable who obviously hasn't even got the faintest clue what she's doing.

    And I also think that when it's on the national stage, Trump will take a slightly more moderate tone, which will cause some (but not all) of the people who have been saying "omg he's rrrrrrracist!" after reading only the headline to stop and actually think about that for a minute, and go from "never vote for Trump" back to the undecided pool. And I would expect him to completely wipe the floor with Hillary in a head-to-head debate, since if you've ever seen her talk, she very clearly has nothing at all to say except "me, me, me" and repeating a few scripted cliches.

    Literally the only people I know who support Hillary are people who haven't been paying attention AT ALL so far - headline-readers who haven't watched any of the debates or followed the election in general. But the closer you get to the election, the more people start paying attention - and the more people pay attention, the worse it is for her. Look at how the Democratic primary has played out so far. At first only the hardcore political junkies knew much about Sanders or supported him, and Hillary was the default setting. But people started stampeding away from her as soon as they heard her talk. Imagine if she had more than one serious opponent, and an extremist opponent at that. She'd be the Democratic Jeb Bush.

    Trump has the opposite effect - the more people pay attention to the election, the better he does. Why is this? Because at the end of the day, most of the public coverage is explicitly geared to pump Hillary up and take Trump down, which works when people's involvement level is still at hashtags and skimming the headline and teaser sentence of articles that their activist friends post on Facebook 20 times a day. But once people are actually taking the election seriously, it's easy to see that 99% of that is just noisemaking. I think Trump wins it, no joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Well, with any luck, the government will prove me wrong in my belief that it's completely rotten and corrupt to the core and she'll be facing prosecution pretty soon. I'm starting to wonder exactly how much more evidence does the FBI need?
    Don't hold your breath. Even if the feds did surprise us and go after her, Obummer will give her a pardon with the rest if his cronies.
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