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    Re: Steelers Officially Sign Free Agent RB Ben Tate

    i liked tate at Auburn i think he can be a really good back in the right environment!


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    Tates best success has come from running in a ZBS , that we have .. I suspect if he gets a chance he will look pretty good I remember a lot of chatter out of Houston that the fanbase wanted to keep him and trade Foster because Fosters back issues and Tate was successful when given a chance there and young with his arrow pointed up ...

    that has only been a year ago ... doubt his ability has left him this soon at his age ...

    another thing to consider is in Cleveland teams stacked the box because nobody feared Hoyer or the Browns WRs ...

    Tate is not going to be Bell , but between him and Harris it just might be enough to get Bell a week of rest he needs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Tates best success has come from running in a ZBS , that we have .. I suspect if he gets a chance he will look pretty good I remember a lot of chatter out of Houston that the fanbase wanted to keep him and trade Foster because Fosters back issues and Tate was successful when given a chance there and young with his arrow pointed up ...

    that has only been a year ago ... doubt his ability has left him this soon at his age ...

    another thing to consider is in Cleveland teams stacked the box because nobody feared Hoyer or the Browns WRs ...

    Tate is not going to be Bell , but between him and Harris it just might be enough to get Bell a week of rest he needs



    Look, lets not go overboard here. I mean Tate DID struggle with the Browns. And the excuse you made for him doesn't hold water cause their other two RB's who ran with that SAME O-line and same QB averaged over 4 YPC. in West and Crowell. So there were other factors Involved, and yes, it was mostly cause Tate was whining about having to share the carries with those other two RB's. He wanted to be the sole " BIG DOG " in the Dog Pound. So lets hope he has humbled himself a little bit. But bottom line is, I doubt he sees a lot of time Saturday unless Harris does really really bad or gets hurt. But I welcome Tate as a need depth player.

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    Look, lets not go overboard here. I mean Tate DID struggle with the Browns. And the excuse you made for him doesn't hold water cause their other two RB's who ran with that SAME O-line and same QB averaged over 4 YPC. in West and Crowell. So there were other factors Involved, and yes, it was mostly cause Tate was whining about having to share the carries with those other two RB's. He wanted to be the sole " BIG DOG " in the Dog Pound. So lets hope he has humbled himself a little bit. But bottom line is, I doubt he sees a lot of time Saturday unless Harris does really really bad or gets hurt. But I welcome Tate as a need depth player.

    holds plenty of water , you just have to know the difference in types of schemes ....

    Houston uses a ZBS ......

    Cleveland does not .....

    We Use a ZBS ......

    Tate has 90% of his NFL snaps behind a ZBS , so I trust those numbers over the ones put up in Cleveland as to what we can expect from him in Pittsburgh if he sticks around long enough to see anything other than blocking on passing downs ( I do not expect to see it right away because he does not know the playbook )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    holds plenty of water , you just have to know the difference in types of schemes ....

    Houston uses a ZBS ......

    Cleveland does not .....

    We Use a ZBS ......

    Tate has 90% of his NFL snaps behind a ZBS , so I trust those numbers over the ones put up in Cleveland as to what we can expect from him in Pittsburgh if he sticks around long enough to see anything other than blocking on passing downs ( I do not expect to see it right away because he does not know the playbook )



    The scheme is not Important. Those other RB's never played in that Browns scheme before either, and they did well. Yes, having better offensive weapons will maybe create more space then what he had in Cleveland and Minny, that I will agree with. And if he has played in a scheme simular to ours now, then he should get the plays pretty quickly. At least lets hope so. In a way I like Tate's style more then Bell's in that Bell tends to stand around first then looks for the best hole to run through. And with a fast pursuing defense like the Ravens that is not the best style. Which is why Bell has never really ran well against Baltimore. As where Tate's straight ahead Bull Dozier style is one that is best to attack Baltimore. And Tate's past numbers against the Ravens prove that. So I am hoping Tate gives us that if he does play Saturday night.

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    I'm certainly not going to cry over releasing Justin Brown, but I can't figure out why they wouldn't cut Landry Jones instead. There is absolutely no point carrying three QBs into the playoffs since they don't have the emergency 3rd QB rule anymore. He can't possibly dress on game day unless one of our other QBs is hurt BEFORE we decide who is going to dress. And it's not like any other team would snatch him up.

    Oh, and he should have never made the 53 man roster anyway. He is absolutely useless as an NFL QB. Maybe he has pictures of Tomlin doing something Rex Ryan-like. Other than that, his presence on this team is a total head scratcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel View Post
    I'm certainly not going to cry over releasing Justin Brown, but I can't figure out why they wouldn't cut Landry Jones instead. There is absolutely no point carrying three QBs into the playoffs since they don't have the emergency 3rd QB rule anymore. He can't possibly dress on game day unless one of our other QBs is hurt BEFORE we decide who is going to dress. And it's not like any other team would snatch him up.

    Oh, and he should have never made the 53 man roster anyway. He is absolutely useless as an NFL QB. Maybe he has pictures of Tomlin doing something Rex Ryan-like. Other than that, his presence on this team is a total head scratcher.



    How do you know he is worthless ? Have you ever seen him play ? I mean maybe if they release him right now, a team CAN sign him to their PS, and see what he has. Jones was an ELITE College QB with a Cannon for a arm. I mean maybe he doesn't amount to shit, but who can say ?

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    The scheme is not Important. Those other RB's never played in that Browns scheme before either, and they did well. Yes, having better offensive weapons will maybe create more space then what he had in Cleveland and Minny, that I will agree with. And if he has played in a scheme simular to ours now, then he should get the plays pretty quickly. At least lets hope so. In a way I like Tate's style more then Bell's in that Bell tends to stand around first then looks for the best hole to run through. And with a fast pursuing defense like the Ravens that is not the best style. Which is why Bell has never really ran well against Baltimore. As where Tate's straight ahead Bull Dozier style is one that is best to attack Baltimore. And Tate's past numbers against the Ravens prove that. So I am hoping Tate gives us that if he does play Saturday night.

    sorry but I refuse to argue when clearly you do not understand the intimate workings of the game ...scheme MATTERS ....

    you are confusing Blocking Scheme and offensive systems ( play book / calls / verbage )

    I am not going to argue with you over it ...

    clearly you think you know more than you do and are unwilling to learn anything because you would rather argue instead of listen and learn ...

    so carry on nothing to see here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    sorry but I refuse to argue when clearly you do not understand the intimate workings of the game ...scheme MATTERS ....

    you are confusing Blocking Scheme and offensive systems ( play book / calls / verbage )

    I am not going to argue with you over it ...

    clearly you think you know more than you do and are unwilling to learn anything because you would rather argue instead of listen and learn ...

    so carry on nothing to see here



    Huh ? Dude, I was the one who suggested Tate. I have said that I LIKE the signing, and have said from the start that Tate's style has given the Ravens fits. All I said was lets not go totally overboard. As where you were acting like Tate is the second coming of Jerome Bettis. Take a chill pill Super Genius.

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    Huh ? Dude, I was the one who suggested Tate. I have said that I LIKE the signing, and have said from the start that Tate's style has given the Ravens fits. All I said was lets not go totally overboard. As where you were acting like Tate is the second coming of Jerome Bettis. Take a chill pill Super Genius.

    what the fuck are you smoking anyways ?????

    1) Tate was mentioned here before I ever knew you existed

    2) I NEVER even remotely acted like he was the second coming of the Bus ....

    3) you do not know the difference in offensive playbooks and Blocking schemes ...

    4) Ignored

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    Unfortunately Dwins, this guy has a toddler imagination and already knows more than the rest of the board combined. You're better off "learning" from him...he is all knowing...lol. He mentioned Ben Tate before anyone else thought of it...lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thesteelerdealer View Post
    He was brought up right after Blount was released, and was basically shot down. This is totally different. Also, I have been watching, and attending Steeler games before you got hair number one on your Nut sack. And three...only cowards run and hide away from a conversation. So if that's what you want...fine. Go away and play with your Vagina.
    You should really stop being an asshole. I mean really...you don't know anyone on this site. You don't know how long people have or have not watched the Steelers. Stop thinking you know it all...cause you really are proving that you know very little...and for a guy "your age," you should know better...but then again, living in Mommy's basement, maybe you don't know better...


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    Unfortunately Dwins, this guy has a toddler imagination and already knows more than the rest of the board combined. You're better off "learning" from him...he is all knowing...lol. He mentioned Ben Tate before anyone else thought of it...lol.


    I said I mentioned him first right after Bell's injury. Not after Blount was released. But regardless, if you wanna claim you were first, so be it. Happy now son ?

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    I didn't claim I was first...lol. I have however been mentioning Tate for a long time, on multiple occasions seeing that Tomlin was running Bell into the ground. Thanks for the vote of confidence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thesteelerdealer View Post
    In a way I like Tate's style more then Bell's in that Bell tends to stand around first then looks for the best hole to run through.
    Waiting for blocks to develop is hardly ""standing around first then looking for the best hole to run through".
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    He was brought up right after Blount was released, and was basically shot down. This is totally different. Also, I have been watching, and attending Steeler games before you got hair number one on your Nut sack. And three...only cowards run and hide away from a conversation. So if that's what you want...fine. Go away and play with your Vagina.
    I'm going to say this as nicely as I can. Please knock it off with the personal attacks. You have been nothing but a pain in the ass ever since you've arrived on this forum, and we are all getting tired of it. If you can't debate any other way, then please take your opinions elsewhere. We've built a very good community here, and we'd like to keep it that way.








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    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    Waiting for blocks to develop is hardly ""standing around first then looking for the best hole to run through".
    Yeah it's called patience and because of that patience, Bell has been extremely successful. Unlike Rashard Mendenhall...


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    Quote Originally Posted by thesteelerdealer View Post
    He was brought up right after Blount was released, and was basically shot down. This is totally different. Also, I have been watching, and attending Steeler games before you got hair number one on your Nut sack. And three...only cowards run and hide away from a conversation. So if that's what you want...fine. Go away and play with your Vagina.
    Da hell? You've been here all of three days and you're talking this kind of shit to respected long-time members of this board? I don't know where you came from, but where I came from you're expected to treat others with respect, especially if you're waltzing into a new room and don't know a living soul there. (eg. Steelers Universe) I suggest you take a step back and reevaluate your intentions here. I'm not a moderator and don't post a ton, but I've been here since this board's inception (and the board before that, betcha didn't know we all go that far back, eh?) and you might be one of more inflammatory people I've seen. And that's saying something.

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    I bet its Spike .......

    anyone care to IP check that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelman View Post
    Da hell? You've been here all of three days and you're talking this kind of shit to respected long-time members of this board? I don't know where you came from, but where I came from you're expected to treat others with respect, especially if you're waltzing into a new room and don't know a living soul there. (eg. Steelers Universe) I suggest you take a step back and reevaluate your intentions here. I'm not a moderator and don't post a ton, but I've been here since this board's inception (and the board before that, betcha didn't know we all go that far back, eh?) and you might be one of more inflammatory people I've seen. And that's saying something.




    Taking a step back. Even though I didn't treat him disrespectfully. He did me. But whatever. BTW...How long have you been in Dallas ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Tates best success has come from running in a ZBS , that we have .. I suspect if he gets a chance he will look pretty good I remember a lot of chatter out of Houston that the fanbase wanted to keep him and trade Foster because Fosters back issues and Tate was successful when given a chance there and young with his arrow pointed up ...

    that has only been a year ago ... doubt his ability has left him this soon at his age ...

    another thing to consider is in Cleveland teams stacked the box because nobody feared Hoyer or the Browns WRs ...

    Tate is not going to be Bell , but between him and Harris it just might be enough to get Bell a week of rest he needs
    I agree Dwins! These are 2013 highlights, he does't look too bad in the traffic.



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    I think this is a good signing. Obviously he's not Bell, but he's got good size and speed and is capable of pounding the rock enough that the Ravens will have to respect it. That he can block and be a decent receiver makes me feel much better than the thought of Archer scurrying around our backfield like a ferret trying to trip a pass rusher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    I agree Dwins! These are 2013 highlights, he does't look too bad in the traffic.


    Not too bad at all. I feel better going into next week with him than Dri for sure. Thanks for the clip.
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    Originally Posted by thesteelerdealer He was brought up right after Blount was released, and was basically shot down. This is totally different. Also, I have been watching, and attending Steeler games before you got hair number one on your Nut sack. And three...only cowards run and hide away from a conversation. So if that's what you want...fine. Go away and play with your Vagina.

    I'm as old as anyone here. Old enough to be short tempered. I'll be damned if I will let anyone talk to a member like this. If you want to see the weekend here you will stop this shit now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texasteel View Post
    Originally Posted by thesteelerdealer He was brought up right after Blount was released, and was basically shot down. This is totally different. Also, I have been watching, and attending Steeler games before you got hair number one on your Nut sack. And three...only cowards run and hide away from a conversation. So if that's what you want...fine. Go away and play with your Vagina.

    I'm as old as anyone here. Old enough to be short tempered. I'll be damned if I will let anyone talk to a member like this. If you want to see the weekend here you will stop this shit now.



    Already forgotten. But some here keep bringing it up. Jesus, lets move on shall we ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokin3000gt View Post
    Not too bad at all. I feel better going into next week with him than Dri for sure. Thanks for the clip.
    I have never really seen Tate play . But was pleasantly surprised by his speed and also his change of direction at speed, in the clips. I'm liking the signing . Btw does he fumble much ? Or is that not an issue .

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    We all have plenty of love to go around .
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesteelerdealer View Post
    Already forgotten. But some here keep bringing it up. Jesus, lets move on shall we ?
    Hope everything is cool man . The machV is the key to this game. I'm a dick sometimes , but everybody knows it .But really we all have some love to spread around .
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    We all have plenty of love to go around .
    Two bags are guarenteed to fit all sizes ,or your money back. If you are not completely satisfied call 1-800-GOO-DHELL We show 5 bags to choose from,most problems only need 2 bags .

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    I like the signing of Tate and, he just needs to block split the carries with Harris. I thnink he can help the steelers win this game.

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