If the Steelers miss the playoffs....?

[Shoes]

in fairness Landry Jones was a 2nd round pick /talent on many draft sites coming from such a prolific passing team as he did many thought he could be a pretty good NFL QB , what was over looked is his inability to read a def when taking a snap under center ( something he did maybe 5 times at Oklahoma ) and his inability to learn the necessary footwork to be a drop back passer ( a necessity in the NFL ) .. those 2 things should be a gimme but not always are as easily learned as it sounds ... Jones has failed at this point to become comfortable doing so and it has more than hindered his ability to develop ... there is no questioning his arm , he has a very good arm ...

trust me I am in no way validating his roster spot as he is undeserving , but he is not a talentless bum , he just lacks the ability to do some mandatory aspects of the pro game that went unrecognized prior to being drafted ...

its hard to say what a guy can't do when you have not seen him try it before pulling the trigger on him ... it did seem to be a steal at the time , but time has proven otherwise ( and I am not one to defend this front office )

He does indeed, its too bad he won't have the chance to develop, so he should be on the PS imo.

[Mojouw]

For me, I would rather gamble on a guy like Landry Jones developing and reaching his ceiling, then take the "Safe" bet with a guy with limited upside, like Hoyer.

In this case, as will often be the case, it bit the Steelers in the ass. Guys you gamble on for the prospect of them reaching their ceiling also have far lower floors.

But I am a big believer in rolling the dice with the bottom 1/3 of your roster and wish the Steelers more frequently churned theirs.

For instance, I would sign Chris Carter's kid and cut Justin Brown.

[Dwinsgames]

For instance, I would sign Chris Carter's kid and cut Justin Brown.

I would have had the contract drawn up and ready to sign before he made it to the facility and his plane would have been due to land by 11pm Nov. 30 ( he could have signed dec 1 in the nfl )

[fansince'76]

Anyone regretting Hoyer now?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5463/brian-hoyer

It is almost like once the league got enough film on him, learned his tendencies, strengths, and weakness, he was exposed as an average player at best.

Gee, that sounds familiar...kinda like Derek Anderson's career bell curve...

Hoyer is not that good. He is not a "franchise" QB. He has a mediocre arm at best and much of his stats have come in frantic garbage time or comeback situations. All other NFL teams have had multiple chances at rostering Brian Hoyer. Only the Browns decided to do it because they literally had no one else. Now, Landry Jones stinks, but I will not sit back and let Hoyer be viewed as the "one who got away".

This. Hoyer = Derek Anderson redux. And the Browns will probably throw a ton of cash at this one too.

[zulater]

There's nothing wrong with Derek Anderson as a backup. In small doses he's proven to be player who can go in and help win a game. Saying Hoyer is the same guy is fair enough. Because like Anderson, Hoyer has a place in the league. As a back up.


Landry Jones, not so much.

[Mojouw]

I would have had the contract drawn up and ready to sign before he made it to the facility and his plane would have been due to land by 11pm Nov. 30 ( he could have signed dec 1 in the nfl )

Looks like he has decided to hold a "Pro Day" in January then sign with a team. Colts and Browns are rumored to be very interested.

[steelreserve]

But I am a big believer in rolling the dice with the bottom 1/3 of your roster and wish the Steelers more frequently churned theirs.

For instance, I would sign Chris Carter's kid and cut Justin Brown.

Now there's a guy who just - I mean really - why the fuck is he even on the roster at this point? Even if all the rest of our receivers broke their ankles, I still wouldn't want him out there. We tried that experiment and the results were stupid. So what exactly are we waiting for?

[zulater]

Play at the same level you have for the past two games for the next two games Ben and I'll gladly eat all the crow anyone here cares to serve me. Perhaps it was as simple as correcting his throwing motion? Maybe he just needs that chip planted back on his shoulder? The more he's doubted the better he performs? I couldn't tell you? We all know what he's capable of at his best. Now it's simply a matter of finishing.

[Psycho Ward 86]

For me, I would rather gamble on a guy like Landry Jones developing and reaching his ceiling, then take the "Safe" bet with a guy with limited upside, like Hoyer.

In this case, as will often be the case, it bit the Steelers in the ass. Guys you gamble on for the prospect of them reaching their ceiling also have far lower floors.

But I am a big believer in rolling the dice with the bottom 1/3 of your roster and wish the Steelers more frequently churned theirs.

For instance, I would sign Chris Carter's kid and cut Justin Brown.

Ugh, no kidding. Like with Bills safety Bacarri Rambo who picked off Aaron Rodgers TWICE on Sunday. Think he was undrafted or a 7th rounder and i remember lots of people here clamoring for him

[polamalubeast]

Currently, the Steelers have the following rankings in these major categories:


- 13th in rushing attempts
- 13th in rushing yards
- T20th in rushing TDs
- 13th in YPC

- 19th in points allowed
- 21st in yards allowed
- T30th in yards per play allowed
- T24th in takeaways

- 28th in punting average
- 18th in punt return average
- 28th in kickoff return average
- 30th in average starting field position

[X-Terminator]

I think this thread can be "retired" now.