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    Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    The knee-jerk reaction of some fans to any downturn in the success of the team they root for is to fire the coach/manager and/or fire the general manager. In some cases, the Tampa Bay Bucs, for example, that response might be understandable.

    But when that kind of talk focuses around the Steelers, it makes no sense.

    Mike Tomlin is in his seventh season as coach of the Steelers. During his first six full seasons, he not only never had a losing record, but he went to the playoffs four times, to the Super Bowl twice and won the Super Bowl once.

    And spare me the nonsense that he did it with another man’s players...........

    read more @ http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201310290135



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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    Bill Polian was fired after just one bad season and it was without Peyton Manning

    Colbert and Tomlin have been very good in the past, but the reality is that the Steelers are 18-18 since 2012 and if nothing changes,it will take major changes in this team.

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    I'm sorry, but after seven seasons you can hardly be described as "impatient" or a "knee-jerk" reaction. This isn't about one embarrassing loss; it's about the team not having its shit together, year in and year out, on a regular basis.

    The "won the Super Bowl with another guy's team" argument would be bogus if Tomlin kept having success once it was mostly his own players, but he didn't. So it's not an irrelevant argument. I'm not talking about winning the Super Bowl every year, just make the playoffs once in a while. What it really looks like is that he inherited a team full of great players, and the more of them have to be replaced with his own guys, the worse it gets.

    I don't know whether that's because the talent of the new guys is lacking, or because they don't fit together into a "team" like the old one most certainly was ... but either way, it is not coming together.
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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    I'm sorry, but after seven seasons you can hardly be described as "impatient" or a "knee-jerk" reaction. This isn't about one embarrassing loss; it's about the team not having its shit together, year in and year out, on a regular basis.

    The "won the Super Bowl with another guy's team" argument would be bogus if Tomlin kept having success once it was mostly his own players, but he didn't. So it's not an irrelevant argument. I'm not talking about winning the Super Bowl every year, just make the playoffs once in a while. What it really looks like is that he inherited a team full of great players, and the more of them have to be replaced with his own guys, the worse it gets.

    I don't know whether that's because the talent of the new guys is lacking, or because they don't fit together into a "team" like the old one most certainly was ... but either way, it is not coming together.
    Exactly. There's nothing "knee jerk" about this.

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    He hasn't been getting the job done, plain and simple

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    Thanks stillers4me for sharing, interesting read. The comments that followed the article were MORE interesting, and some really hit the nail on the head !

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    This team is not playing and representing itself the way we would like to see.

    This is not new. This is not isolated. In fact, this is on a continual downward trend. This is what is alarming. Especially this season when the team has stayed pretty healthy, compared to previous seasons.

    Art II needs to issue a memo that discipline is mandatory. Effort needs to be 100% from start to finish. And, oh yeah, remember to wear your jock strap.


    Seriously though, we are talking about professional players, playing for one of the storied franchises in the NFL. How are they getting away with not giving 100% every game, for 60 minutes? That comes on the coaches. If the environment allows for incompetence, no discipline, no urgency, that is on the coaches. Was it not pre game 3 against the Eagles that Tomlin demanded to see urgency? Players certainly didn't take that to heart.

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    The knee-jerk reaction of some fans to any downturn in the success of the team they root for is to fire the coach/manager and/or fire the general manager. In some cases, the Tampa Bay Bucs, for example, that response might be understandable.

    But when that kind of talk focuses around the Steelers, it makes no sense.

    Mike Tomlin is in his seventh season as coach of the Steelers. During his first six full seasons, he not only never had a losing record, but he went to the playoffs four times, to the Super Bowl twice and won the Super Bowl once.

    And spare me the nonsense that he did it with another man’s players...........

    read more @ http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201310290135

    how knee jerk is it when its been talked about for nearly 3 years by some fans 2 by many

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    This story is from last October.

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    This story is from last October.
    Lather, rinse, repeat.



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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    Quote Originally Posted by stillers4me View Post
    Lather, rinse, repeat.
    lol so football is like washing your hair ....gotcha now I got this thing all figured out haha

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    Re: Fire Tomlin? Be careful for what you wish

    he needs to use one just one of his catch phrases "the standard is the standard"


    For me this is the standard


    For those i love i will sacrifice.

    Si ventus non est, remiga

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