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    If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    I'm not shocked. I'm not surprised. I'm not even upset. This is just what the Steelers do. Mike Tomlin's M.O.

    We have NO fucking nerve whatsoever to be stunned, upset, or shocked. Shut up, Ben. Shut up Tomlin with that fucking look on your face. You did NOTHING to win this game. You have NO NERVE to be upset.

    Defense stops TB on fourth down to get the ball back. What does Ben the Offense do? "Hey Faggot Defense! Stop them again!" Offense doesn't do shit. Legarette Blount, our "Closer" is on the sidelines. Pittsburgh did everything they could to not win this game, and OH LOOK, they lost! But watch the fools blame Dick Lebeau for this.

    I don't give a fuck anymore. 2-2.

    On to Jacksonville.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    agree with this.... I'm not surprised.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    BEYOND LIVID!!!! HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GET EMBARRASSED BY BAD TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW MANY MORE TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Congratulations to the defense for making one of the worst starting QBs in the league look like Joe Montana

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Plenty of blame to go around.

    AB drops a touchdown pass that would have been the dagger. Offense needs one first down and can't get it. Defense gives up a game-winning drive with no timeouts. Wing makes a lousy punt when we need a good one to ice the game.

    It was an across the board choke job--we had multiple chances to seal the victory and virtually everyone on the team missed an opportunity to put it away.

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    I will be livid if we go 8-8 again, get a mid-round pick and Mike Tomlin and LeBeau both get to keep their jobs

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    I wonder if Ben is glad he did not get an extension. At least his options are open next year. If Tomlin is still here, run Ben run.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    I will be livid if we go 8-8 again, get a mid-round pick and Mike Tomlin and LeBeau both get to keep their jobs
    Welcome to 2015. They can go 6-10 and the Rooneys will not let them go.

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    The worst part about it is we will finish 9-7 or 8-8, be one win away from the playoffs, get a piddly mid-round pick and both Momlin and LeBlow will keep their jobs, along with Kevin Dilbert

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    The sack/fumble by TB at the beginning of the game, penalties, sack before the half leading to the long FG miss by Sushi. That last offensive drive was well, offensive. Playing not to lose.

    Where was the pass rush?

    Draft some real CBs. These scrubs are useless.



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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    If the philosophy is that the secondary is adequate because we will pressure with our front 7, then PRESSURE WITH OUR FRONT 7!!!

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    So no one wants to blame the players? It is the players who got called for a facemask about a half dozen times. It is Allen that couldn't cover anyone all day. It is Ben that missed one sure TD and another deep pass. It is AB that dropped a TD on the flea flicker. It is Cody Wallace who got his ass handed to him all day long.

    But yeah. Fire Tomlin, Haley, and Lebeau.

    When are we all going to realize that this is a mid level team from a talent perspective. That produces mid level talent results. Look at the rosters of the two teams that played today. Really look at them and tell me (other than QB) where the Steelers roster jumps off the page as that much better than Tampa's.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    It was the FG missed at the end of the first Half, Hello.
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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Draft some real CBs. These scrubs are useless.
    It still really pisses me off that we didn't even try to improve our CBs in the offseason.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
    All Defense!

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So no one wants to blame the players? It is the players who got called for a facemask about a half dozen times. It is Allen that couldn't cover anyone all day. It is Ben that missed one sure TD and another deep pass. It is AB that dropped a TD on the flea flicker. It is Cody Wallace who got his ass handed to him all day long.

    But yeah. Fire Tomlin, Haley, and Lebeau.

    When are we all going to realize that this is a mid level team from a talent perspective. That produces mid level talent results. Look at the rosters of the two teams that played today. Really look at them and tell me (other than QB) where the Steelers roster jumps off the page as that much better than Tampa's.
    Yeah but when the players keep pulling this shit for years, it's on the coach, you clearly cannot get a team to play competitively against inferior teams and always are on the verge of laying an egg. That's a lack of leadership and accountability. Period.


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    It's funny how he bitches on this site flip flop. Be a man and stick what you feel. Oh that's right it means you're not a real fan lmfao clown punk bitches

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So no one wants to blame the players? It is the players who got called for a facemask about a half dozen times. It is Allen that couldn't cover anyone all day. It is Ben that missed one sure TD and another deep pass. It is AB that dropped a TD on the flea flicker. It is Cody Wallace who got his ass handed to him all day long.

    But yeah. Fire Tomlin, Haley, and Lebeau.

    When are we all going to realize that this is a mid level team from a talent perspective. That produces mid level talent results. Look at the rosters of the two teams that played today. Really look at them and tell me (other than QB) where the Steelers roster jumps off the page as that much better than Tampa's.
    But why do the players perform one week and not the next? The coaches bare some responsibility to have them prepared physically and mentally.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    The Steelers need ONE FIRST DOWN to ice the game.

    3 and out. Go on Defense, Get us another stop.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So no one wants to blame the players? It is the players who got called for a facemask about a half dozen times. It is Allen that couldn't cover anyone all day. It is Ben that missed one sure TD and another deep pass. It is AB that dropped a TD on the flea flicker. It is Cody Wallace who got his ass handed to him all day long.

    But yeah. Fire Tomlin, Haley, and Lebeau.

    When are we all going to realize that this is a mid level team from a talent perspective. That produces mid level talent results. Look at the rosters of the two teams that played today. Really look at them and tell me (other than QB) where the Steelers roster jumps off the page as that much better than Tampa's.
    No mention of Beachum? I believe he gave up 4 sacks and some holding calls. But this team was not prepared again and thats Tomlin's job. It's a pretty clear pattern.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by jb500ex View Post
    It's funny how he bitches on this site flip flop. Be a man and stick what you feel. Oh that's right it means you're not a real fan lmfao clown punk bitches
    Like anyone asked you for your clown opinion.

    Go play in traffic.








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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by jb500ex View Post
    It's funny how he bitches on this site flip flop. Be a man and stick what you feel. Oh that's right it means you're not a real fan lmfao clown punk bitches

    Wondered how long it would take for the dregs to show up.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Like anyone asked you for your clown opinion.

    Go play in traffic.


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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So no one wants to blame the players? It is the players who got called for a facemask about a half dozen times. It is Allen that couldn't cover anyone all day. It is Ben that missed one sure TD and another deep pass. It is AB that dropped a TD on the flea flicker. It is Cody Wallace who got his ass handed to him all day long.

    But yeah. Fire Tomlin, Haley, and Lebeau.

    When are we all going to realize that this is a mid level team from a talent perspective. That produces mid level talent results. Look at the rosters of the two teams that played today. Really look at them and tell me (other than QB) where the Steelers roster jumps off the page as that much better than Tampa's.
    True, but given that the team keeps making the same mistakes over and over again, that is on the coaching staff. It's the same reason why Dan Bylsma was ultimately fired even though he never missed the playoffs, won a Stanley Cup and was coming off a season where his team won their division. Mike Tomlin should not be immune to the same kind of scrutiny, nor ultimate fate if it comes to that.








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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    No amount of accountability and leadership from the coaching staff will correct for the fact that the players stunk today.

    The CB's got beat constantly. The left side of the OL leaked like a sieve. The defensive players grabbed like 6 facemasks on the day.

    The offensive gameplan appeared sound (the last drive excepted). The defense stopped the run, got some pressure (clearly not enough), but the back 4 was atrocious.

    What can the coaching staff do with that? Start Guy Whimper and Mike Adams? Start BW Webb?

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Coaches are to blame just the same as players are to blame. These are not first-year coaches. If the talent isn't there then that falls on the coaches.
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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Poor discipline.

    No intestinal fortitude (except Troy).

    Not the least bit surprised that we lost or how.

    When the game was over I shrugged and walked away.

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    Re: If you don't play to win. You don't deserve to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    Coaches are to blame just the same as players are to blame. These are not first-year coaches. If the talent isn't there then that falls on the coaches.

    Exactly, even more so since there are three other coaches besides Tomlin with HC experience.

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