Let's be honest, this team will miss the playoffs twice out of every 3 seasons and never make it past the wildcard round for the rest of Tomlin's tenure. This idiot needs to be fired!
Let's be honest, this team will miss the playoffs twice out of every 3 seasons and never make it past the wildcard round for the rest of Tomlin's tenure. This idiot needs to be fired!
The steelers will miss the playoffs for the 3rd time in the last 4 years......No playoff win since 2010.....
There are two extremes in regards to coaches. One extreme is what the Browns do, firing their coach every season or two seasons. The other extreme is what the Steelers do, keeping their coaches for the better part of 20 years no matter what. I think there's a happy medium in there somewhere. The Steelers are not going to suddenly become an "unstable franchise" if they were to move on from Tomlin.
He got abused by Harbaugh today.
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Consistently losing to suck teams year in year out is getting old too
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Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.
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I'm ready for a cleansing of the coaching staff. The only coach that i want back is Munchak.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Yeah, but you know the Rooney's smile from ear to ear when anyone announces "Steelers only 3 coaches since 1969".
Butler has been doing it with smoke and mirrors. Lake needs to go, Smith needs to go and Haley needs to go.
I am more than willing to give Butler a few more years. He has really impressed me with what he did with the pile of shit Lebeau left him.
If "Cool Shades" is staying, I'd keep Haley to be honest. Smith and Lake have to go regardless.
I guess they can smile when there is no playoff revenue too.
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No way in hell would Tomlin sign another contract in Pittsburgh if I were ArtII. Tomlin has a big bag of BullS**t, thats what he excels in.
Great day for this thread BTW.
Fire Rooneys!!!
So basically Tomlin has yet to win a playoff game without Cowher's players.
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Once Dan is out of the picture, you may be saying that in truth!
Since Tomlin isn't getting fired, let's see if the Rooneys are at least willing to take personnel decisions out of his hands. Tomlin's failure with those decisions come mostly from his arrogance.
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It's hard to tell if some of the defensive failures are due to lack of talent or poor coaching/play calling. The defense has been abused all season by mediocre QBs. We consistently sit back in a soft zone and get picked apart.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
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A good scheme doesn't lose to a 4-10 team with only 4 picks and a journeyman QB that has 12 days with the team. There's something wrong there.
All Defense!
QFT.
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Indeed, its on the coach!
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This is the most futile thread in the history of internet message boarding! Outside of finding dead hookers in his yard or kiddie porn on his pc he's not going to be fired! Period end of story! Live with it, Tomin isn't going anywhere. And he's not a bad coach anyway. In fact I would say he's a good coach. One of the top 6 or 7 in the league. If you don't agree tell me who's better. Or better yet sell it to the fan bases of the other teams that their coaches are better. We only see the warts on our own guys.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
When is this asshat's contract up. Rooneys should have his head examined for sticking with this moron. 3 missed playoff appearances in 4 years with an elite QB.
It's not over yet, but overall it's been a hellishly tough season, and opinion-wise, we've been in and out of playoff contention several times all year. Given that this is Butler's first year as DC, and we've had great success on offense as well, then there's really not a shit load to be deathly pessimistic about. IF this season is over after next weeks game, then I still say give Tomlin at least one more year before thinking about changing leadership.
“They say you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone. So I got rid of everything to see what I had.” ~ Steven Wright
Would you let him continue making personnel decisions?
Oh, this again.
A better question is, what has Tomlin done above and beyond what you'd expect from any random NFL coach? Nothing. He hasn't let everything come completely unglued and go 4-12, good for him. But he had the HUGE advantage of having one of the best QBs in the league, which you can't say for 95% of the other coaches that have come and gone during his tenure.
Put Tomlin in charge of some team like the Bills or the Buccaneers, and he'd get you your 4-12 record, maybe be one-and-done, and then this whole conversation is stupid. Take any halfway decent coach who isn't in way over his head at the NFL level - say, Tom Coughlin or Jeff Fisher - put him on the Steelers circa 2006, and I'd bet you $100 you'd get the exact same result as Tomlin if not better.
What have I seen from Tomlin? A lot of bluster, a lot of the team being unprepared, almost zero player development except for a few special cases - and some really obvious deficiencies in how the team is put together, which appear to stem not from bad luck or the regular ups and downs of the draft, but from stubbornness and/or just not getting how certain things work.
"You can't use the argument that it's Cowher's players anymore!" Well, what has he done now that it's all his own players? Consistently play .500 ball with an elite QB and a team that everyone thinks is more talented than its record shows. A good coach would have us wrapping up a playoff spot around Thanksgiving and we'd be debating whether resting your starters too much is the right move or not. Great coaches take players like we have and do things like invent new offensive schemes around them. What are we doing? Mucking around in pigshit and struggling to make the playoffs one year out of four. One of the best 6 or 7 coaches in the league - get the fuck out of here.
See you Space Cowboy ...
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The Packers are losing 31-0. But that never happens with future HOF quarterbacks and good coaches.
Yep.
Fire Everybody!!!
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