To Tomlins credit: we have seen him make excellent coaching decisions and make personnel moves on field to keep the team competitive when we all thought it would never be through injury and the like. He’s not a bad coach, he surrounds himself with dolts…maybe to make himself look like the smartest in the room?Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
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Coaches/coaching is overrated by fans I suspect.
Many NFL coaches have and maintain their jobs on personal connections not performance or innovation.
Look at what’s going on in Denver. There are multiple coaches running that dumpster fire that are supposedly extremely highly regarded coaches with a track record of success. Currently they look like they shouldn’t be in charge of a lemonade stand much less an NFL team.
The Bengals DC gets a phenomenal amount of live around the league. One of his accolades was pulling a secondary together from spare parts. This season he doesn’t have Bates and Bell as his safety pairing and he doesn’t look so smart.
Flores is viewed as an excellent DC. He’s getting torched in Minnesota.
Daboll was the new hotness just last year. He’s presiding over a total disaster that seems to be growing by the day.
Eberflues is the kind of coach Steelers fans are conditioned to love. It’s not going well in Chicago. At all.
Staley and Moore should be a magical pairing for the Chargers but somehow it just isn’t all anyone hoped for.
The list can go on and on. Canada is awful. He should be fired but the rest of this nonsense? Take a breath count to ten and chill.
The Steelers are broken at QB, LT, C, CB, and SS. That’s a player issue. And the Steelers draft picks and FA signings demonstrate that they know they are. It’s going to take time.
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The Steelers promoted Omar Khan to GM. Khan hired Andy Weidl as assistant GM. Together they promoted Dan Colbert, putting him in charge of the COLLEGE scouting. They hired Sheldon White as the PRO scouting leader. These are the guys in charge now.
Tomlin is under contract through the 2024 season, and I expect them to let that contract expire and make a HC change after the 2024 season. I don't know what kind of 'power' over personnel the HC will have moving forward, but I suspect Tomlin's has been diminished somewhat under this new regime. Not good or bad, just changed.
As is typical with hiring a new HC, the new HC will hire his new staff at that time. Therefore, I also expect Canada and Austin to be retained through the 2024 season as well.
Kenny will have finished his 3rd season as QB of the Steelers and we will see a new QB brought in as either a high draft pick or priority FA. At this time, I just don't see KP as the future franchise QB. I think KP can reach the Mayfield/Brissett level of pro QB, meaning he can be a starter but will always be looking over his shoulder for his replacement. Only my opinion.
All in all, I think this is who the Steelers are through the 2024 season. Then we will see wholesale changes with the coaching staff, probably some key personnel changes, and enter the 2025 season looking much different than now.
I have nothing more to base this post on other than what I already laid out, and just my own gut feeling. I welcome any thoughts.
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Canada's contract ends after this season. Crazy thing that nobody has even mentioned (becauise it was under the radar) is that Canada was EXTENDED back on 2022. He was only originally signed thorugh 2022 which pisses me off more.
So, whoever has the final say in contracts for coaches is to blame. (Omar, Art III, Tomlin? Maybe all of the them made that decision? But who the hell knows.)
https://steelersdepot.com/2023/01/pr...son-last-year/
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ve-coordinator
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The report says Tomlin was away tending to some personal matters when the extension was made. Doesn't mean Tomlin wasn't part of the process, just that it wasn't his decision alone.
not sure it means that at all ... Tomlin could have said thats my guy , get a deal done pls to lock him up for a couple more years as he went away on personal business
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. 4 teams in 5 years and traded twice in one off season
Because of the situation and the contracts, I tend to think this is very accurate and unfortunately thought the same about the OC position.
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Could have I guess.
the crazy thing is that we even need to talk about any of this ... its clear to 99.9% of the population that knows anything about football that he should be G-O-N-E yet here we areCould have I guess.
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. 4 teams in 5 years and traded twice in one off season
Since 2007, no NFL team has played in more one-score games than the Pittsburgh Steelers 153
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. 4 teams in 5 years and traded twice in one off season
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This is why my BP is high
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this entire coaching staff sucks and it starts and ends at the top.............
here is some more evidence as such ....
Kevin Dotson is now PFF's highest-graded guard in the NFL this season - 85.3
read that again ..................
Kevin Dotson is now PFF's highest-graded guard in the NFL this season - 85.3
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. 4 teams in 5 years and traded twice in one off season
Wait. I thought PFF grades were just Cris Collingsworth nerd nonsense?
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Wait...I thought is was all about player execution, not coaching and technique.
Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day
Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.
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It's both. The Steelers have average to above average talent, but their coaching has been at the bottom or near the bottom of the league for years now.
they had contender level talent between 2011 and 2018, and they had a 3-6 playoff record to show for it.
Oh you mean a Top-3 QB, Best RB and Best WR? They couldn’t execute…
I don't think I will post in the fire Canada thread any more, the only reason Canada is still here is Tomlin so Fire him and the Canada part takes care of itself ....
Per Kozora: Through five games, the Steelers have run 21 plays in the red zone, last in the NFL. Twelve of those came in their season opener.
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. 4 teams in 5 years and traded twice in one off season
The Saints ran more plays in the red zone last night (22) than the Steelers have all season (21).
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. 4 teams in 5 years and traded twice in one off season
That stat is another pathetic offensive statistic. It just amazes me that I keep hearing one bad stat after another, and the Steelers offense has been at the bottom of the league for 2-3 years now.
Tomlin likes to say the team will not keep doing the same things over and over and expect a different result, and that they will make changes.........but it appears to me the offense does keep running the same schemes/plays over and over expecting a different result.
The players are never “executing properly” yet they keep starting, signing and extending the same players…
yeah, no one can execute under Tomlin and his staff
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Tomlin with Ben and the killer B’s, pouncey, DeCastro, a stout defense had one more playoff win than Noll in the 80’s, who had a team of has beens and never wases,…… still trying to understand that one
It's a dam shame with the killer B's they could not stay healthy when it was playoff time and, could not beat Brady when it counted the most. Losing to the Jags team with Blake Bortles was a crap show to say the least!
we only played the patriots one time in the playoffs in that 2011-2018 stretch. As far as injuries, AB was out for one playoff game (Denver), Bell missed a couple, but Ben was healthy. Every team has injuries - unless its to the starting QB, a good team should be able to scheme around it.
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Killer B era question.
1. Who was Bell’s backup?
2. Besides AB, who made up our WR room?
Just questions.
The defense certainly couldn't.
James Conner was the backup for time.
Eli Rogers, JuJu, Martavis Bryant.
Lotta talent there.
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You may be missing a few names. Lol!
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RB - DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Dwyer, Issac Redman, Frenchy Fitzgerald Toussaint, Stevan Ridley, James Conner
WR - Bryant, Sanders (not killer be era), Wallace (not killer b era), Coates, DHB, Wheaton, Rogers, Cotchery, Juju, Burress (not killer b era), Hines (not killer b era)
Killer B era assuming it's 2014-2017
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