FIRE MIKE TOMLIN!!

[Count Steeler]

The Browns are in 1st place now! LMAO!

Have to say, well deserved. At least they play hungry.

[NCSteeler]

The Browns are in 1st place now! LMAO!

The browns deserve to be in first place. They kicked our ass for 6 quarters


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[NCSteeler]

I'm tired of Tomlin, but I know damn well he ain't getting fired, we'll be lucky if anything changes. My guess is we go 9-7 squeak into the playoffs and get clobbered by NE or KC . Which only means we have had improvement and everything remains the same


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[Shoes]

The browns deserve to be in first place. They kicked our ass for 6 quarters


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Agreed, after their near comeback from first game with the Steelers, I had a feeling they would be trouble in the AFC north.

[st33lersguy]

I'm tired of Tomlin, but I know damn well he ain't getting fired, we'll be lucky if anything changes. My guess is we go 9-7 squeak into the playoffs and get clobbered by NE or KC . Which only means we have had improvement and everything remains the same


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We're going 9-7, missing the playoffs by one game and getting stick with the crappy 19th or 20th pick. But since we "made improvements" nothing changes and we repeat the same thing in 2015

[SteelerFanInStl]

Fuck Tomlin! I'm sick of this shit.

[steelreserve]

We're going 9-7, missing the playoffs by one game and getting stick with the crappy 19th or 20th pick. But since we "made improvements" nothing changes and we repeat the same thing in 2015

What do you want to bet we take another linebacker or lineman with that pick, because he was the "best player available," and then don't draft a CB or NT until the fifth round, and then one of them doesn't even play and the other doesn't make the team.

[silver & black]

You guys wanting to go all Al Davis on his ass?

[st33lersguy]

What do you want to bet we take another linebacker or lineman with that pick, because he was the "best player available," and then don't draft a CB or NT until the fifth round, and then one of them doesn't even play and the other doesn't make the team.

That sounds 100% right. Frankly I hope Kevin Colbert is gone after this year as well

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I am thankful we don't play the Raiders this year, because I'd bet the mortgage that the Steelers would be the first team to lose to the Raiders. If Mike Tomlin's steelers played an 0-14 team (generically speaking), I'd go to Vegas and bet everything I had on the 0-14 team, because I guarantee you the winning team would improve to 1-14

[st33lersguy]

You guys wanting to go all Al Davis on his ass?

Be honest Sliver & Black, you wish you guys were playing the Steelers this year

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My sister who doesn't watch any football could field a team comprised exclusively of 5 year old girls and 5 days after being formed, they would beat the Steelers because all Mike Tomlin would be concerned about is playing down to their level

[steelerdude15]

It's absolutely amazing how one loss (yes, it was an awful loss) will bring out the worse of people and want people fired, yet when they win, there is barely a peep of it. It truly goes to show that winning does fix everything.

[NCSteeler]

It's absolutely amazing how one loss (yes, it was an awful loss) will bring out the worse of people and want people fired, yet when they win, there is barely a peep of it. It truly goes to show that winning does fix everything.

Oh I don't think you will have many cheering here, even with a win next week. But that win is certainly not a certain-tee


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[Count Steeler]

It's absolutely amazing how one loss (yes, it was an awful loss) will bring out the worse of people and want people fired, yet when they win, there is barely a peep of it. It truly goes to show that winning does fix everything.

It is not 1 loss. It is a systemic failure to defeat opponents with sub .500 records on a consistent basis. How can we put up 94 points against Indy and the Ratbirds, yet lose to Tampa Bay, the Jets and be nip and tuck to beat the Jags.

Is it on the players? Is it on the coaches? Is it on the Steelers in general? In that we don't think an opponent is worthy of our best, so we just show up and think we are going to win. After 1 or 2 of these losses something has to click and you have to say, you know what, we have to PLAY every game!

[salamander]

It's absolutely amazing how one loss (yes, it was an awful loss) will bring out the worse of people and want people fired, yet when they win, there is barely a peep of it. It truly goes to show that winning does fix everything.

Except it's not just one loss. The Steelers have had a very nasty habit of playing like garbage against inferior opponents the last couple of seasons and absolutely no one can deny that. It's these losses that ultimately hurt us in the long run.

[steelreserve]

It's absolutely amazing how one loss (yes, it was an awful loss) will bring out the worse of people and want people fired, yet when they win, there is barely a peep of it. It truly goes to show that winning does fix everything.

When they were on a roll, people were hoping that they'd finally gotten it together. This "one loss" was confirmation that, nope - same old shit.

I don't think anyone is quite so bipolar that their entire outlook about the team and the coaching staff actually changes 100% from week to week, unless they literally are bipolar. More of a willingness to cross your fingers that it was real and not just lucky. It sucks to never have any clue which team is going to show up, not to mention that's not how you go far in the playoffs.

[86WARD]

It's absolutely amazing how one loss (yes, it was an awful loss) will bring out the worse of people and want people fired, yet when they win, there is barely a peep of it. It truly goes to show that winning does fix everything.

As it's been said a few times before, it's not one loss...it's the compilation of the last few seasons...it's been a consistent thing with this team to play down to or in most cases below teams that would be considered worse than the Steelers.

I can't speak for anyone else but even if this team wins out, wins the AFC Championship, wins the Super Bowl all in a commanding blow out fashion, I would still want Tomlin fired. He's proven more times than not that he's just not a good head coach.

[st33lersguy]

The next time the Steelers will make the playoffs will be after Mike Dumblin gets fired. Had he inherited a team half as good as the one he inherited, he would not have lasted 4 years as head coach

[stillers4me]

The next time the Steelers will make the playoffs will be after Mike Dumblin gets fired. Had he inherited a team half as good as the one he inherited, he would not have lasted 4 years as head coach

You mean Cowher's 8-8 team that didn't make the playoffs?

[salamander]

You mean Cowher's 8-8 team that didn't make the playoffs?

To be fair, Cowher pretty much mailed it in that season and Ben was coming off of smashing his head into the front of a sedan.

[fansince'76]

To be fair, Cowher pretty much mailed it in that season and Ben was coming off of smashing his head into the front of a sedan.

And to be fair, a lot of people act like Tomlin inherited the '78 Steelers. He didn't.

[polamalubeast]

It was not the 1978 Steelers but the steelers had finished 15-1 in 2004 and won the SB in 2005.

In 2010, I thought Tomlin was a great coach, but unfortunately I was wrong

[fansince'76]

It was not the 1978 Steelers but the steelers had finished 15-1 in 2004 and won the SB in 2005.

In 2010, I thought Tomlin was a great coach, but unfortunately I was wrong

A 15-1 team that went 6-10 the season before and peaked in late October of that year and got embarrassed at home in yet another AFCCG, and won the SB team as a 6th seed that barely made the playoffs and played so poorly in the SB that everyone that isn't a Steelers fan still think they got gifted the game by the refs.

IOW, a very flawed team.

[polamalubeast]

A 15-1 team that peaked in late October of that year and got embarrassed at home in yet another AFCCG, and won the SB team as a 6th seed that barely made the playoffs and played so poorly in the SB that everyone that isn't a Steelers fan still think they got gifted the game by the refs.

IOW, a very flawed team.

It was two great teams, even if it was not perfect

The Steelers were 31-7 during his two years including the playoffs.

[fansince'76]

It was two great teams, even if it was not perfect

The Steelers were 31-7 during his two years including the playoffs.

It was a good team, not a great one.

[stillers4me]

Everybody forgets how bad the oline was and the Eagles crushing us and Ben almost getting killed. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, OLINE? Remember that??? We had a great defense. ....offense, not so much.

[steelreserve]

The next time the Steelers will make the playoffs will be after Mike Dumblin gets fired. Had he inherited a team half as good as the one he inherited, he would not have lasted 4 years as head coach

You mean Cowher's 8-8 team that didn't make the playoffs?

And to be fair, a lot of people act like Tomlin inherited the '78 Steelers. He didn't.

A 15-1 team that went 6-10 the season before and peaked in late October of that year and got embarrassed at home in yet another AFCCG, and won the SB team as a 6th seed that barely made the playoffs and played so poorly in the SB that everyone that isn't a Steelers fan still think they got gifted the game by the refs.

IOW, a very flawed team.

Are you guys shitting me? It was a team that won two Super Bowls with the same guys, and very nearly won a third with most of the same players even though half of them were on their last leg. That's an awesome team.

The "crappy" 2006 team had 8 Pro Bowl players on defense alone and 4 on offense (not all in that year, obviously). (edit: wait, 7 Pro Bowl player on offense, I forgot the three from the offensive line.) Some of the other players who surprisingly never made a Pro Bowl were Santonio Holmes and Ike Taylor. That's a loaded team, and most of them stayed around for a few years.

In 2007, the defensive line was outstanding and our secondary was above-average. Today they are neither of those things.

Wherever this idea came from that Tomlin was dealt a tough hand and has done as well as could be expected, it's total horseshit. He started with at least a full house and managed it down to about a pair of 8s. Once the safety net was gone, it's been nothing but inconsistent performance at best, and a steady decline at worst. He does not have the franchise going in the right direction.

[st33lersguy]

Are you guys shitting me? It was a team that won two Super Bowls with the same guys, and very nearly won a third with most of the same players even though half of them were on their last leg. That's an awesome team.

The "crappy" 2006 team had 8 Pro Bowl players on defense alone and 4 on offense (not all in that year, obviously). (edit: wait, 7 Pro Bowl player on offense, I forgot the three from the offensive line.) Some of the other players who surprisingly never made a Pro Bowl were Santonio Holmes and Ike Taylor. That's a loaded team, and most of them stayed around for a few years.

In 2007, the defensive line was outstanding and our secondary was above-average. Today they are neither of those things.

Wherever this idea came from that Tomlin was dealt a tough hand and has done as well as could be expected, it's total horseshit. He started with at least a full house and managed it down to about a pair of 8s. Once the safety net was gone, it's been nothing but inconsistent performance at best, and a steady decline at worst. He does not have the franchise going in the right direction.

I noticed my comment was on there, I hope I didn't imply that Tomlin didn't inherit an excellent team (because I was implying that he did).
As for your comment, it puts to rest the insane idea that Tomlin didn't inherit a loaded team. Plus had Ben not been rushed back after the apendectomy (and especially after the concussion he suffered in Atlanta) they make the playoffs in 2006. Even with Ben being rushed back with the appendectomy, the 2006 team was a Ricardo Colclough fumble, a Nate Washington false start, and a Charlie Batch start (after Ben's concussion) away from 11-5

[polamalubeast]

Are you guys shitting me? It was a team that won two Super Bowls with the same guys, and very nearly won a third with most of the same players even though half of them were on their last leg. That's an awesome team.

The "crappy" 2006 team had 8 Pro Bowl players on defense alone and 4 on offense (not all in that year, obviously). (edit: wait, 7 Pro Bowl player on offense, I forgot the three from the offensive line.) Some of the other players who surprisingly never made a Pro Bowl were Santonio Holmes and Ike Taylor. That's a loaded team, and most of them stayed around for a few years.

In 2007, the defensive line was outstanding and our secondary was above-average. Today they are neither of those things.

Wherever this idea came from that Tomlin was dealt a tough hand and has done as well as could be expected, it's total horseshit. He started with at least a full house and managed it down to about a pair of 8s. Once the safety net was gone, it's been nothing but inconsistent performance at best, and a steady decline at worst. He does not have the franchise going in the right direction.

I agree

It's amazing how the steelers were loaded in 2004-2010...As result, the Steelers have made four AFC title game, three super bowl and won 2 SB

This is true than the o-line was weak in 2008 and 2010 and the position of RB was very average, but the rest of the team were loaded

[steelreserve]

I noticed my comment was on there, I hope I didn't imply that Tomlin didn't inherit an excellent team (because I was implying that he did).
As for your comment, it puts to rest the insane idea that Tomlin didn't inherit a loaded team. Plus had Ben not been rushed back after the apendectomy (and especially after the concussion he suffered in Atlanta) they make the playoffs in 2006. Even with Ben being rushed back with the appendectomy, the 2006 team was a Ricardo Colclough fumble, a Nate Washington false start, and a Charlie Batch start (after Ben's concussion) away from 11-5

No, I didn't mean it that way; I just had yours in there as the start of the argument that people were responding to you. 2006 was really a letdown year for a lot of reasons, including the coach and probably a lot of the veteran players mailing it in. That doesn't excuse the performance, but I don't think the record was really a true characterization of the talent level of that team.

I agree

It's amazing how the steelers were loaded in 2004-2010...As result, the Steelers have made four AFC title game, three super bowl and won 2 SB

This is true than the o-line was weak in 2008 and 2010 and the position of RB was very average, but the rest of the team were loaded

Also true ... the offensive line being bad around 2008 I can't really fault Tomlin for, as they lost three of their key players at once to injury, retirement and FA, and were on pretty short notice to fix things.

The fact that it's seven years and four top-2 draft picks later and they're just now starting to look like it MIGHT be fixed is inexcusable; the decline at DL and DB also is inexcusable. When you've been in charge of the team that long, if you've got personnel problems that haven't been fixed ... that is ALL YOU, KEN.

[steelerdude15]

I think my last post was a little misinterpreted, but oh well, no big deal.