FIRE MIKE TOMLIN!!

[Hawkman]

A-fucking-men. Bunch whiney cowards.

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Thanks both of you!!

[st33lersguy]

If anything, I give Tomlin credit for his team fighting hard enough to be in position to win, short-handed in Denver.

[fansince'76]

Aww, are you related to Tomlin? Care to answer why your hero chose to punt twice instead of trying for 6 pts? He didn't offer an explanation. Maybe you can.

There were strong wind gusts in that stadium ALL DAY, genius, which made a 50+ yarder a risk. And you'd be bitching even louder if Boswell missed them than you are now. Piss off.

[SteelMayhem72]

Ok we can stop with the Fire Tomlin thread please...I will say this and I'll admit I was on that bandwagon early in the season...I think Tomlin and the coaching staff did a tremendous job this year with all the injuries to keep plugging and playing. If we had a relatively healthy team all year I do think this is a superbowl team. Also did all of this with the toughest schedule in the NFL...pretty damn impressive. Our defense played very well today!!!

[Shoes]

Heck, if Tomlin and Colbert draft Kenny Clark in the 1st, I might jump back on their wagon.

[smokin3000gt]

Aww, are you related to Tomlin? Care to answer why your hero chose to punt twice instead of trying for 6 pts? He didn't offer an explanation. Maybe you can.

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Ok we can stop with the Fire Tomlin thread please...I will say this and I'll admit I was on that bandwagon early in the season...I think Tomlin and the coaching staff did a tremendous job this year with all the injuries to keep plugging and playing. If we had a relatively healthy team all year I do think this is a superbowl team. Also did all of this with the toughest schedule in the NFL...pretty damn impressive. Our defense played very well today!!!

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[zoneblitzerII]

Good on Tomlin getting his team to compete with toughness and character today. He does get the most out of these guys when they're short-handed. They were the better team and should've won.

[Terrapinstation]

There were strong wind gusts in that stadium ALL DAY, genius, which made a 50+ yarder a risk. And you'd be bitching even louder if Boswell missed them than you are now. Piss off.

Genius? Of course it's a risk. You're an underdog on the road, with an injured team. you have to take risks in order to win. we played not to lose (as usual), and lost.

[fansince'76]

Genius? Of course it's a risk. You're an underdog on the road, with an injured team. you have to take risks in order to win. we played not to lose (as usual), and lost.

We were AHEAD on the scoreboard at the time. Because of the unpredictable (and often quite strong) gusts of wind, the game became one of field position. Missing a 50-yarder puts the Broncos on their own 40-yard line.

See how that works?

If Berry could punt worth a damn, he'd have pinned them deep in their own end instead of booting it into the end zone for a touchback.

[zulater]

Good on Tomlin getting his team to compete with toughness and character today. He does get the most out of these guys when they're short-handed. They were the better team and should've won.

Good post!

[hawaiiansteeler]

Good on Tomlin getting his team to compete with toughness and character today. He does get the most out of these guys when they're short-handed. They were the better team and should've won.

agreed.

anyone who blames Mike Tomlin for today's loss merely has an agenda and is not worth arguing with...

[Hawkman]

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Negative. This thread will live forever.

...and you'll be just the one to bring it up.......just to keep stirring the shit.

[Terrapinstation]

We were AHEAD on the scoreboard at the time. Because of the unpredictable (and often quite strong) gusts of wind, the game became one of field position. Missing a 50-yarder puts the Broncos on their own 40-yard line.

See how that works?

If Berry could punt worth a damn, he'd have pinned them deep in their own end instead of booting it into the end zone for a touchback.

Guess the wind wasn't blowing for Mcmanus's 5 FGs.

Our punter can't punt worth a damn. That was obvious after the 1st quarter, and all the more reason to kick the FGs

[fansince'76]

Guess the wind wasn't blowing for Mcmanus's 5 FGs.

Our punter can't punt worth a damn. That was obvious after the 1st quarter, and all the more reason to kick the FGs

Yup, all 5 50-yarders he kicked.

Again, they were BEHIND on the scoreboard. It's a different dynamic.

[fansince'76]

anyone who blames Mike Tomlin for today's loss merely has an agenda and is not worth arguing with...

Actually, you're right.

[tube517]

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Negative. This thread will live forever.

LMAO

[zulater]

Actually, you're right.

But of course blaming Haley is perfectly reasonable.

[43Hitman]

The only complaint I have isn't even about Tomlin. Everyone in that damn stadium knows that Manning gave himself up on that blitz, but somehow the refs allowed him to get up and throw the ball. Completely screwed the pooch on that one, I'm sure we'll get an apology letter from the NFL.

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[fansince'76]

But of course blaming Haley is perfectly reasonable.

Did I say Haley lost us this game? No. I've made my stance on Haley clear - we could do better in the OC department. Why is Haley beyond reproach after Arians was made the scapegoat for everything that went wrong (on offense AND defense) during his 5 years as OC?

[43Hitman]

Those damn WR screens to Bryant have to go. :chuckle :

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[86WARD]

Up 1 in the 4th qtr. Pass up a 50yd FG, in order to take 12 yds of field position. Fucking brilliant

Wasn't a terrible call there. The defense was playing well all game. The Broncos offense was crap. There's no guarantee, with that wind, that Boz makes that kick. If Berry can pin them deep, it's a great call and he's been pretty good at doing that this season. Can't blame Tomlin there...it's a decent call.

[Rotorhead]

Yeah, he definitely game himself up, but what can you do. I thought Tomlin made some good decisions, I understand the go for it idea, and Heath was open for the 1st, Wheaton has to bring that ball down. With AB for DW we win that game hands down. The worst part is I don't see the Broncos beating the Cheats with the way they are playing, I think we have a better chance to win that game.

[86WARD]

The only complaint I have isn't even about Tomlin. Everyone in that damn stadium knows that Manning gave himself up on that blitz, but somehow the refs allowed him to get up and throw the ball. Completely screwed the pooch on that one, I'm sure we'll get an apology letter from the NFL.

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Yeah...I don't get that...

SO many botched calls by the officials this season.

[Hawkman]

Wasn't a terrible call there. The defense was playing well all game. The Broncos offense was crap. There's no guarantee, with that wind, that Boz makes that kick. If Berry can pin them deep, it's a great call and he's been pretty good at doing that this season. Can't blame Tomlin there...it's a decent call.

Thought the same thing at the time.

[zulater]

Did I say Haley lost us this game? No. I've made my stance on Haley clear - we could do better in the OC department. Why is Haley beyond reproach after Arians was made the scapegoat for everything that went wrong (on offense AND defense) during his 5 years as OC?

That didn't happen. Just you, Marianne and XT were super sensitive to any and all criticism of Arians. Yeah like all OC's throughout the league he frequently got called on the carpet when things don't go well. And let's not forget that the defense was the driving until on most of Arians teams. Some of it was personnel. Well most of it was. We had crappy rb's and worse O-lines. How much of that was on Arians? I really don;t know? But the fact is some of the most inept offensive performances I've ever seen came with BA as OC. So of course fans on a message board would react.

[fansince'76]

That didn't happen. Just you, Marianne and XT were super sensitive to any and all criticism of Arians. Yeah like all OC's throughout the league he frequently got called on the carpet when things don't go well. And let's not forget that the defense was the driving until on most of Arians teams. Some of it was personnel. Well most of it was. We had crappy rb's and worse O-lines. How much of that was on Arians? I really don;t know? But the fact is some of the most inept offensive performances I've ever seen came with BA as OC. So of course fans on a message board would react.

But Arians' team is still playing and we're not. Yeah, I thought Arians got a raw deal from the fans, you're damn right. The 2009 Raiders game really took the cake. Bruce Gradkowski throws 3 4th quarter TDs, with 2 of them going to a nobody named Louis Murphy, including the go-ahead TD to win with less than a minute left on the clock and Arians got the blame! Unreal!

[blackngold8766]

agreed.

anyone who blames Mike Tomlin for today's loss merely has an agenda and is not worth arguing with...

Its the AFC semi final. It shouldnt require much to get these guys excited to compete. Its the games in the middle of the season where he needs to get them to play. Todays game isn't exclusively on the coach but his decision making once again comes into question. Not kicking those fg's in that altitude comes back to bite him. If this was the first time it would be bad luck but his poor decisions have become a pattern.

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Thought the same thing at the time.

I disagree. Only up by one point and potential net difference was 20 yds. Potential net gain was two scores with defense playing well. Also since D was playing well giving up poor field position would not have been end of the world. Easy to say now of course but thought he should have tried both fg attempts

[fansince'76]

Its the AFC semi final. It shouldnt require much to get these guys excited to compete. Its the games in the middle of the season where he needs to get them to play. Todays game isn't exclusively on the coach but his decision making once again comes into question. Not kicking those fg's in that altitude comes back to bite him. If this was the first time it would be bad luck but his poor decisions have become a pattern.

2 FGs = 6 points. We lost by 7.

I disagree. Only up by one point and potential net difference was 20 yds.

How so? Most NFL punters can at least pin them inside the 10, and in many cases inside the 5. Berry did manage to get it right and pin them very deep once in that game. 20/20 hindsight is wonderful, isn't it?

[Mojouw]

I really think that we need to stop bringing ideas from Madden football to arguments about the actual NFL. It was a field position game. You have the punter who was one of the best in the league in pinning teams deep in shorter placement punt situations ALL year. Look it up. It is a stat and everything. You have rookie placekicker with a strong leg. But a rookie on the road in adverse conditions. What the home team kicker was able to do is not a good analogy for what Boz may or may not have been able to do.

Long story short, the Steelers played a defense and field position game all day. They most likely would have won, except they lost the turnover battle.

[zulater]

But Arians' team is still playing and we're not. Yeah, I thought Arians got a raw deal from the fans, you're damn right. The 2009 Raiders game really took the cake. Bruce Gradkowski throws 3 4th quarter TDs, with 2 of them going to a nobody named Louis Murphy, including the go-ahead TD to win with less than a minute left on the clock and Arians got the blame! Unreal!

Arians didn't lose his best wr and two best rb's and starting LT and All Pro center either. And Palmer played every game. So I wouldn't make too much of it.