Lebron James

[stillers4me]

[fansince'76]

What a punk. "My team lost, so I'm splitting."

[salamander]

ESPN is having multiple orgasms over this.

[X-Terminator]

Biggest diva in sports today. And it's not even close.

[tube517]

I think Houston is going to pay him and Melo 2 billion dollars to go there

[vader29]

[stillers4me]

[zulater]

I don't blame him. First off, opting out isn't necessarily leaving. It just means he's exorcising all of his options. And why shouldn't he if Wade insists on collecting his full contract amount? Wade is washed up, and James knows he can't win if Wade's play continues to deteriorate while commanding so much cap space.

So this could be a leverage move on his part to get Wade to take a team friendly contract like Tim Duncan in San Antonio. Or maybe he wants to go elsewhere, and of so, he's honored his contract, and has this right, so more power to him I say.

LeBron will be ultimately be judged by the number of rings he earns, not by what jersey he wore while earning them.

Plus if he goes back to Cleveland how can anyone complain?

[GBMelBlount]

I don't blame him. First off, opting out isn't necessarily leaving. It just means he's exorcising all of his options. And why shouldn't he if Wade insists on collecting his full contract amount? Wade is washed up, and James knows he can't win if Wade's play continues to deteriorate while commanding so much cap space.

So this could be a leverage move on his part to get Wade to take a team friendly contract like Tim Duncan in San Antonio. Or maybe he wants to go elsewhere, and of so, he's honored his contract, and has this right, so more power to him I say.

LeBron will be ultimately be judged by the number of rings he earns, not by what jersey he wore while earning them.

Plus if he goes back to Cleveland how can anyone complain?

I would imagine his family would complain....lol

[zulater]

I would imagine his family would complain....lol

In all honesty she might be the one driving it. She's an Akron girl and seemingly proud of it.

The only thing that might stop Lebron going back is the idiot owner of the Cavs Dan Gilbert who tried to torch every bridge back to town when LeBron made his last "decision."

[Steelman]

In all honesty she might be the one driving it. She's an Akron girl and seemingly proud of it.

The only thing that might stop Lebron going back is the idiot owner of the Cavs Dan Gilbert who tried to torch every bridge back to town when LeBron made his last "decision."

You might be right on his wife. Everything I've heard from LeBron says he really likes living in Miami, but his wife has been pretty adamant about Ohio. I still think even with the opt-out that LeBron will stay in Miami, but who knows. (or really cares. lol)

[stillers4me]

[fansince'76]

For some reason, this immediately came to my mind...

[ALLD]

Leaving Miami would make him a traitor, not a trader. America is getting dumber by the season.

[smokin3000gt]

Leaving Miami would make him a traitor, not a trader. America is getting dumber by the season.

this x100

[Devilsdancefloor]

Leaving Miami would make him a traitor, not a trader. America is getting dumber by the season.

hey maybe he is trading spices from the carabeeanne to Ak'Ron?

My son was like WTF is he doing uggggghhhhhh he is going to be a Laker i just know it

[X-Terminator]

Leaving Miami would make him a traitor, not a trader. America is getting dumber by the season.

I was thinking the same thing. How did these people make it out of 5th grade, with spelling like that? Friggin Internet...making everyone shit-stupid day by day.

[Butch]

In other news Tim Duncan is going to be staying on another year with the Spurs!!!

[steelreserve]

I find it hard to imagine that, with all the other crap LeBron has going on financially, he would want to leave Florida with its 0% income tax. He's estimated to be making $72 million per year in salary plus endorsements, and I don't think that's even counting any investments like his share of Beats, whatever real estate he owns ... I'm sure he at least has a stake in a few restaurants, nightclubs, record labels, whatever.

Say he went to L.A. - then he'd be paying 13% in California state income tax, not just on his salary but probably everything else ... Even if he got a max contract, that would be about a $4 million raise over his previous deal, but he would now be paying an extra $10 or $12 million in taxes, so he'd be LOSING a crapload of money. Same thing with New York, Chicago, or most other "destination" franchises. Pretty much the only places he could go without that being a problem are Orlando, Memphis, Dallas/Houston/San Antonio, or Seattle. (whoops, scratch that last one, LOL! )

Anyway ... makes you think this is probably just a ploy to renegotiate, or maybe all three of them do it and not all of them are back.

Or hell, maybe he surprises everybody and goes to Sacramento. Betcha didn't see that coming!

[Butch]

As Zulater stated this doesn't mean that he's leaving Miami, it simply opens up all his options. The media is whipping this whole thing into a frenzy and of course Lebron brought this all on by the way he left Leaveland. I don't think he is leaving but what the heck do I know.

[vader29]

The media is whipping this whole thing into a frenzy .

[GBMelBlount]

I don't watch basketball but just curious where Lebron ranks among the greatest basketball players ever?

[fansince'76]

I don't watch basketball but just curious where Lebron ranks among the greatest basketball players ever?

He's not even in the top 10, IMO.

Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Russell, Robertson, Chamberlain, Erving, O'Neal, and Bryant (even though I can't stand him). Jordan would be #1, and the rest you could pretty much order in any fashion, IMO. Considering how easily he seems to fold when the chips are down, James wouldn't have won shit in the '80s if he would have had to go up against Kareem and Magic, Bird and Erving and he definitely wouldn't have won anything in the '90s if he had to go up against Jordan.

[GBMelBlount]

So Kobe Bryant is better than Lebron James

[zulater]

So Kobe Bryant is better than Lebron James

No way. Not now, not ever.Kobe never dragged a crap team to the finals. James has down it twice now.

Oh and MJ lost in the first round of the playoffs 3 times. Lebron never once bowed out in the opening round. The playoffs aren't just made up of the finals.

[fansince'76]

Oh and MJ lost in the first round of the playoffs 3 times. Lebron never once bowed out in the opening round. The playoffs aren't just made up of the finals.

True, but the Eastern Conference was just a bit tougher road to go through in Jordan's early career than in James'.

[86WARD]

Take the rings out of the equation and just based on talent alone, LeBron is a better player on court than Jordan was. A much better teammate off court than Jordan was.

[GBMelBlount]

Take the rings out of the equation and just based on talent alone, LeBron is a better player on court than Jordan was.

Does LeBron average more points per game and assists than Jordan?

[86WARD]

Does LeBron average more points per game and assists than Jordan?

No. But a VERY GOOD argument could be made that he's a better all around player. He can play defense and defend all positions. Jordan couldn't do that. Jordan used speed to play defense...but he couldn't defend all positions. He also would never be able to defend James. James was also much more versatile than Jordan on both offense and defense.

James is also a cleaner player than Jordan...a foul every 22 minutes. Jordan a foul every 15 minutes. James is a better passer than Jordan...almost 2 more assists than Jordan.

[tube517]

http://www.landofbasketball.com/play...ael_jordan.htm


Jordan still ahead in stats....I didn't realize Lebron's been in the league for 11 years. Time flies.

Watching both, LeBron is physically stronger...Jordan never got credit for being a great defensive player...he was always known for offense.

Jordan: 6-0 in NBA Finals. LeBron: 2-3 in NBA Finals. Bird: 3-2 in NBA Finals. Kobe: 5-2 in NBA Finals. Magic: 5-3 in NBA Finals