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I watched the Mizzou bowl game yesterday vs Minnesota and was very impressed with the MN TE Maxx Williams. Did anyone else see the play where he hurdled two defenders and took the ball in for a TD?
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/ma...dle-1676982310
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
As I see it, and it hasn't changed much, we need to find a CB, a Safety, a pass rush, and OL help.
AML
Pass rush please. And a few players in the secondary wouldnt hurt either.
Shane Ray , Michael Bennett. these DTs on the can't stay on the field for a single drive. Is it conditioning or scheme.
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Ray is a first round pick, possibly as high as top 10. He's most likely gone before we draft. I watched almost every Mizzou game this year and Ray played great. Of course he'll have to convert to LBer in the NFL.Originally Posted by Steeltreal
I also don't think that we should take a LBer in the first though even though we certainly need an OLBer that can rush the QB.
“I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play!” - Jack Lambert
Bingo
But the Steelers probably put a priority on pass rushearly in the draft vs Corner, just their M.O.
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Depending on who is there, I'm not sure they wouldn't be right to do so. There are two DE that would play OLB for us that IMO would improve the pass rush next year. The fact that, again IMO, there will be a CB in the second or third that would help our defensive back field tremendously plays into my thoughts. To be honest, I'm not sure I wouldn't like that first pick to come in the early second round. Again, this will all depend on who is still on the board when they call our name.
AML
we are drafting in a bad spot IMO I do not expect ANY CBs or DE/OLB tweeners worthy of a 1st round pick to be on the board when we pick ...
by the time the second round comes I still do not see a CB with the proper grade being available we either just missed them 5-8 picks ahead of us and the next graded out guys shouldnt go for another 10 picks or more ...
so we are either reaching / over spending to fill a need or waiting and going without anyone worthy of starting as a rookie ....
I say it every year ( and often times because the talent we need isnt going to be there at our pick point without over spending ) is trading down may yet again be the best option but like prior years an option we do not explore to seriously as a franchise
Like you Dwins, I do not want to draft a CB just to draft a CB in the 1st. I like the DE Orchard very much, but in the 1st? I don't know. This is going to kill some people, or they will want to kill me, but theres a good chance the position most worthy a 1st round pick at that point is going to be an O-lineman. To me trading down, if the guy we want is not there make sense. Get a 2nd, and a 3rd, hopefully get a 3rd round comp, and start plugging hole that we have all been talking about. Of course things can change over the next few month, including my mind.
AML
I see the Steelers either drafting an outside linebacker or a corner in the first round. If they did draft a corner in the first round, of course this is a big if; I think Trae Waynes of Michigan State could be a good fit for this team. He's 6'1 and is around 182 pounds. He seems to cover receivers pretty well, he has good vision, he is physical, and can also catch. Just food for thought.
Personally, if Waynes were there when we pick I would be knocking tables over getting the card up there. How ever I will be shocked if he gets any where close to us.
AML
I just imagined some guy running and knocking tables over at the draft with a determined look on his face.
I would surprised if he made it that far too. He's seems to be a highly regarded corner in this years draft.
I just imagined some guy running and knocking tables over at the draft with a determined look on his face.
I would surprised if he made it that far too. He's seems to be a highly regarded corner in this years draft.
I had that same vision lmao ...
Yes he will be the first CB taken IMO and we all know more than 1 will be drafted in this new breed NFL before we select that being said ( and the premium put on the position ) we would be forced to way over draft or end up with a head case ..I prefer to do neither
Maybe that's the real reason we signed Tate.
AML
I like a lot of what guys are saying on here about pass rush and coverage but what I would like to see is to draft a NT in the 1st or 2nd rd of the draft like Danny Shelton from washington. I think this guy can give us a good push in the middle and eat up some O-linemen for our LB's
I think we can move forward with McClendon and McCullers it's just Dicks scheme that pulls them off the field, if your going to draft a DT/rotational guy it shouldn't be a 1st rounder
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if we didnt have McCullers on the roster I would be right there with you pounding my fist , however I believe in big Dan and think with a full off season of work ( if he puts in the work but the team should know by draft time if he has not been in the complex ) and another training camp ( this one actually understanding what he is supposed to do ) we will be pretty good there .. I sure hope so anyways
you have to admit he is a mountain to move and he can get penetration when given a chance to line up ...
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I like what I have seen so far from McCullers. He even shed some blocks and made some tackles last night. He has also destroyed some centers in some of the games he has played. Hit the weights and the tape and keep learning. He has a future in the black and gold.
If the steelers decide to go in that direction Shelton just might be there. Then again, that what we said about Poe till the combines.
AML
potential help from the middle rounds of the draft ... don't over look this kid ( I think Tex also has his eye on him but maybe it was LLT )
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...me-to-know-now
I believe we both are. LLT and I have developed a habit of not talking a lot about kids we really like.
AML
Absolutely agree with you on that! If he puts up great numbers at the combine with what he has put on tape some team will pull the trigger on him early...oh well story of our draft LOL1
Steelers need to draft a defensive back with the 22nd pick, I don't care if it is corner or safety
Be careful painting yourself in a corner with one position. There could conceivably not be a DB that is worth a first round pick, at that point. In that case I would hope we could find a trade partner. Besides, we don't really know who the new DC is going to be, he could effect our first pick on the draft.
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Yeah, I definitely feel we're in a pretty tight position with the spot we have in the draft. Dick resigning might have an affect on that too.
I would like to see the Steelers do what they did in '03 drafting a db in the first (corner or safety, and I am not saying trade up like they did that year, if anything trade down and get more picks if the value isn't there) and then whatever db position they don't draft in round 1, draft in rounds 3 or 4, order doesn't matter. I think it is the correct thing to do given that the db situations then and now are similar
and in between those picks take a DE or OLB dependent upon what scheme is going to be the primary base formation under Butler ...
I suspect it will be 3-4 so OLB/DE tweener type that can rush the passer
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Alvin Dupreeeeeeeeeeee
would be a good choice provided he is still lingering , but I suspect he will be gone by our pick in round 2 but ya just never know until it happens
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