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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    President Obama’s mendacious political promise, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it,” continues to cast a long and disturbing shadow of doubt and confusion over millions of Americans who have lost coverage as a result of Obamacare. As 2014 unfolds, the most vulnerable senior citizens — those who receive home health care services — are about to learn they are out of luck. Obamacare opens a trap door under them, leaving this elderly population in freefall — with many citizens losing access to home health care.
    Add another compelling reason to reverse Obamacare. Whether by accident or intention, the “Affordable Care Act” empirically strips America’s oldest and poorest cohort, all part of the World War II generation, of this basic coverage. Here is how.
    On Jan. 1, Medicare’s home health care services, formerly serving 3.5 million elderly beneficiaries across the country, were cut under Obamacare. The cut deleted exactly 14 percent, or an estimated $22 billion, from these lowest-income Americans over four years. News of the forthcoming cut only trickled out the Friday before Thanksgiving, yet another stunning attempt by the Obama White House to reduce Medicare benefits without attracting notice.
    Guess what? We noticed. This cut does irreparable damage to recipients of Medicare’s home health care services, those who are aged, homebound and sicker than the average Medicare population. Indeed, nearly two-thirds of Medicare home health care users live at or below the federal poverty level, meaning they are the most economically compromised of America’s precious senior citizens.
    This cut is an indictment of White House policies. Home health care agencies have always provided services to homebound Medicare beneficiaries. No hoopla, but when these Americans needed skilled care, they got it. In contrast to expensive hospital care, critical health care services got into millions of American homes via clinicians. Home health care was — and still is — vital. It is also now effectively gone for these Americans.How did home health care save money for taxpayers? Using 2009 as a reference year, Medicare’s average Part A and Part B payment for a home health care visit was $145, compared to $373 per day in a skilled nursing facility or a whopping $1,805 per day in a hospital. In addition, according to one leading expert, skilled home health care services saved the Medicare program $2.8 billion during the most recent three-year period. Approximately $670 million of that savings is attributable to 20,000 fewer hospital readmissions.
    Given these facts, one would conclude that the value of home health care in driving down Medicare costs should be obvious, if this — and not a single-payer system — were the real goal of Obamacare. How did we lose sight of common sense? Just keep patients in a familiar surrounding — their homes, not in an expensive hospital — keep sound disease management programs that deliver better and more cost-effective outcomes, and continue to coordinate care for patients. That was working. Now we have the reverse — markedly higher medical and insurance costs, with absolutely no institutional connection, support or continuing benefits for these especially needy Americans, the ones who depended — with their families — on critical home health care benefits. The president and his Democratic surrogates in the House and Senate have done it again: They have wiped out another critical, working system with this Obamacare monstrosity.





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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    The unions were in full lockstep with Obama and the Democrats and supported passage of the law. The opposition tried to explain this to their monkey asses before the law was shoved down our throats, but they all simply ignored it. So they get no sympathy from me.








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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    The unions were in full lockstep with Obama and the Democrats and supported passage of the law. The opposition tried to explain this to their monkey asses before the law was shoved down our throats, but they all simply ignored it. So they get no sympathy from me.
    I won't throw them all under the same blanket because they have a union ,does not mean they voted as the union stated or gave endorsement of

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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    ...and the irony is that if your financial situation dictates that you need to cancel your cell phone and cable TV to be able to afford health insurance, you more than likely won't be able to afford the ~$6K deductible.

    Wonder what Steeldawg would say (more like what propaganda would he link from the Huffington Post/uber-liberal think tank du jour) to whitewash this one.

    And yes, Hopey really did say this, and once again, not a peep from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSDNC, etc., etc....


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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Aren't cell phones free?
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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Quote Originally Posted by GBMelBlount View Post
    Aren't cell phones free?
    That's right, my bad...


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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Most every family thats living paycheck to paycheck can't afford $350 a month for cell phones and cable in the first place.


    I'm still waiting for my free stuff.


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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach1 View Post
    Most every family thats living paycheck to paycheck can't afford $350 a month for cell phones and cable in the first place.


    I'm still waiting for my free stuff.
    People don't want to be able to afford cell phones because they get to spend more time with their family and pursuing their dreams.


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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    OK McChange, how about those people whose only phone IS their cell phone? Like me, for instance? I get my health insurance through my job (for now), but let's say I didn't. Are you really suggesting that I cut my only other means of keeping in contact with the outside world, other than my computer, just so that I could afford your shitty, overpriced health care plans?

    Idiot.








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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    OK McChange, how about those people whose only phone IS their cell phone? Like me, for instance? I get my health insurance through my job (for now), but let's say I didn't. Are you really suggesting that I cut my only other means of keeping in contact with the outside world, other than my computer, just so that I could afford your shitty, overpriced health care plans?

    Idiot.
    Even better-what if you lose your job because your company closes or lays off workers? And you have no cell phone because you gave it up in order to afford health insurance...but now, you don't have a phone at all so potential employers can't call you when you send a resume?

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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    White House Now Resorting to Cat Pictures to Sell Obamacare

    Over the past few months the White House has launched an all out assault on pop culture in order to push the very unpopular Affordable *snicker* Care Act. Obama has appeared on the late night and daytime talk show circuit begging the millennial crowd to enroll. Celebrities like Lady Gaga, Jennifer Hudson and Pharrell have signed on as government shills and the massively expensive print and television ad campaign has already spawned some pretty clever parodies.

    However, despite all the money and all the celebrity influence being pumped into the publicity campaign Obamacare remains more unpopular than ever, especially among the one group of enrollees needed to make it work – millennials. It doesn’t help when Michelle Obama refers to young people the White House is trying to woo as “knuckleheads” and it also doesn’t help that the result of Obamacare has been to create more uninsured Americans, not fewer.

    The administration is clearly getting desperate to turn around its disastrous signature legislation. A visit to the White House’s website will lead you to the ACA Bracket page – The 16 Sweetest Reasons to Get Covered. See what they did there?

    My friend Emily over at NakedDC once told me, “If you can’t make your point with a cat picture its not worth making.” Apparently the Obama administration was listening (not too unbelievable these days). The ACA Brackett page also contains a series of animated GIFs featuring young knuckleheads doing stupid things, Michelle Obama’s late-night talk show revelries, ducks celebrating free birth control and cats. Lots of cats doing cute cat things, funny cat things, weird cat things.

    Because nothing is cuter than President and Mrs. Eat-Your-Peas forcing you to buy a product you don’t want and then fining you if you don’t.
    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/03/1237...ell-obamacare/


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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    The administration is clearly getting desperate to turn around its disastrous signature legislation. A visit to the White House’s website will lead you to the ACA Bracket page – The 16 Sweetest Reasons to Get Covered. See what they did there?
    The 16 Sweetest Reasons to Get Covered

    Wow. I might need to make an addition to the "Post your favorite epic fails" thread...

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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    The 16 Sweetest Reasons to Get Covered

    Wow. I might need to make an addition to the "Post your favorite epic fails" thread...
    No words for what a joke that is. I had to look at least once to make sure I was on the official whitehouse.gov. How long before the admin starts reaching out to young kids the way cigarettes used to? Besides the website failure, half of our guys have prices out obamacare online and not only did their premiums DOUBLE, but so did their deductible. $6,000/yr deductible on top of the cost for healthcare? Good luck! There is no way this thing can sustain. Just a matter of time before this thing crashes, burns, and takes everyone with it.
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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

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    No words for what a joke that is. I had to look at least once to make sure I was on the official whitehouse.gov. How long before the admin starts reaching out to young kids the way cigarettes used to? Besides the website failure, half of our guys have prices out obamacare online and not only did their premiums DOUBLE, but so did their deductible. $6,000/yr deductible on top of the cost for healthcare? Good luck! There is no way this thing can sustain. Just a matter of time before this thing crashes, burns, and takes everyone with it.
    Think it's bad now? Just wait until 2015 when the employer mandate kicks in and the shit really hits the fan. There's a reason that part was delayed until after the midterms.

    From a personal perspective, I currently work for a healthcare informatics company that specializes in writing and building software for hospitals and clinicians and we've already taken a hit business-wise largely because of this fucked up POS legislation. Namely, we're having a hard time with new sales and renewing subscriptions primarily because there is so much uncertainty in the Healthcare field with this thing.

    Right now, I'm playing beat the clock to see if I can finish up my Master's and find a job elsewhere before the inevitable layoffs begin to kick in. The handwriting is already on the wall - no bonuses this year and we were recently informed that we're going to have to start paying for our company-provided Blackberry/cell phone plans out of our own pockets, even though I'm required to have it as I work in IT and have on call responsibilities and wouldn't have the damn thing otherwise.

    Good times. Yer doin' a great job, Hopey!

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    Re: Democrat's Bold Defense of ObamaCare Job-Killer: Nobody Really Wants a Job Promot

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Think it's bad now? Just wait until 2015 when the employer mandate kicks in and the shit really hits the fan. There's a reason that part was delayed until after the midterms.

    From a personal perspective, I currently work for a healthcare informatics company that specializes in writing and building software for hospitals and clinicians and we've already taken a hit business-wise largely because of this fucked up POS legislation. Namely, we're having a hard time with new sales and renewing subscriptions primarily because there is so much uncertainty in the Healthcare field with this thing.

    Right now, I'm playing beat the clock to see if I can finish up my Master's and find a job elsewhere before the inevitable layoffs begin to kick in. The handwriting is already on the wall - no bonuses this year and we were recently informed that we're going to have to start paying for our company-provided Blackberry/cell phone plans out of our own pockets, even though I'm required to have it as I work in IT and have on call responsibilities and wouldn't have the damn thing otherwise.

    Good times. Yer doin' a great job, Hopey!
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